Kids in CL?

[traveling1969]

Finally, RCCL has found a way to solve the overcrowding problem in the Concierge Lounge!!! Just let in a few squalling brats and presto! Lots of empty seats.:eek::eek::eek:

[bmarchal]

The best way we found to make our feelings known is to put it in the comment section of the Guest Satisfaction card at the end of the cruise. They really do read everyone of those cards and if you include your phone # or e=mail adderss and ask for someone to contact you they will. It's a powerful tool.

[traveling1969]

The best way we found to make our feelings known is to put it in the comment section of the Guest Satisfaction card at the end of the cruise. They really do read everyone of those cards and if you include your phone # or e=mail adderss and ask for someone to contact you they will. It's a powerful tool.

Oh, they'll hear about it alright...till their ears ring!

[phish tales]

There were approximately 168 PC Members as of Jan 21, 2011 if memory serves me correctly. We have lost a few wonderful PC members, but then I am sure there are been some additions since January. There are 22 ships in the RCI fleet.

 

I don't think that all PC Members, let's just say for the sake of discussion, that there are now 200, even 250 who will be cruising on the same ship at the same time. Those odds are pretty slim to none IMHO.

 

I think you may find several vacant Concierge positions if RCI were to eliminate D+ from the CL.

 

Currently on Brilliance D+ Member can bring their children in to the CL.

 

 

cruisenfever, why do you say" there would be several vacant concierge positions if RCI were to eliminate D+ from the CL". it will still be filled with suite people as it was intended for. and a concierge is definitely needed.

[cruisenfever]

cruisenfever, why do you say" there would be several vacant concierge positions if RCI were to eliminate D+ from the CL". it will still be filled with suite people as it was intended for. and a concierge is definitely needed.

Because a Concierge will not work for nothing.

[crisndeefromde]

You are so correct Patti! Concierges count on their tip money. I have only experienced one cruise in my gs that I did not tip my concierge and for good reason. However in all my other cruises in our suites the concierge was fantastic.

[Kokomo91165]

Because a Concierge will not work for nothing.

 

AMEN! I have had conversations with several of the Concierges who have said D+ tip far more handsomely than Suite Guests because the suite guests feel like they have already paid for their benefit. This is NOT to say ALL suite guests act this way - we tip handsomely no matter what stateroom accommodation we stay in.

 

Now, as for children in the CL. Eeegh - well it's not that big of a deal I guess. I surely hope they wouldn't take up seats when the adults need them. I was brought up that you always give the seat to someone older than you. Just a rule of etiquette in my household. Furthermore, parents should go get their children any food, etc.

 

Let's just hope Shrek doesn't make his was into the CL soon. Lol

[rolloman]

Well that settles it. I won't feel guilty hanging out in the onboard nursery kicking back in the comfy rocker enjoying my bucket of beer.

[BND]

AMEN! I have had conversations with several of the Concierges who have said D+ tip far more handsomely than Suite Guests because the suite guests feel like they have already paid for their benefit. This is NOT to say ALL suite guests act this way - we tip handsomely no matter what stateroom accommodation we stay in.

 

Now, as for children in the CL. Eeegh - well it's not that big of a deal I guess. I surely hope they wouldn't take up seats when the adults need them. I was brought up that you always give the seat to someone older than you. Just a rule of etiquette in my household. Furthermore, parents should go get their children any food, etc.

 

Let's just hope Shrek doesn't make his was into the CL soon. Lol

 

I've watched suite guests tip very well. We always do. We tipped the concierge extremely well on Explorer and he didnt' do anything extra for us.

 

There are always people who don't tip at all or do so minimally regardless of what class of cabin they are in.

 

Regardless, I can guarantee you the kids will take up seats. The same parents who complained their precious little ones couldn't come in will say they "paid" for that seat so they can sit there. Imagine if even only 1/2 the suites had one child in them, that would basically take all the seats in the CL pretty quickly.

 

So, I think our question to Adam should be when do we get to go into the kid's clubs, as a pp mentioned. If these parents truly want fairness and equality, let's see how they feel about that.

[Kokomo91165]

well that settles it. I won't feel guilty hanging out in the onboard nursery kicking back in the comfy rocker enjoying my bucket of beer.

 

roflol!!!

 

 

I guess we should now disregard the 18+ casino rule too if suite guests are "paying more.". How about under 16 at the gym?

 

Just a note - we tend to stay in suites with our children.

[erin_cruisers]

I'll never understand what could possess people to WANT to take their children into an environment where adults are drinking. I shouldn't have to censor myself because someone's little darling is there if I don't wish to. And by that I mean if I feel like telling an off-colour joke or some other topic that is fit for adult ears.

 

I'm a preschool teacher by profession, now a mostly stay at home mom. I'm around children pretty much 24/7. I won't be making allowances if kids are places that are inappropriate, and I shouldn't have to.

 

And yes, it is inappropriate. Here in Ontario it's not even legal to take your child into a bar, period. I would not take my son to a bar and sit there- there are plenty of places that are more appropriate than a venue focused on the consumption of alcohol. Having a drink with a meal or by the pool is a different ballgame.

I agree.

There are enough places for children on the ship.

Why oh why add the CL to that list. :cool:

Whats next - the Solarium and the Casino?

 

As much as I love children (notice my grand-daughter as my avatar) ;)

there are occasion when its just nice to have some ADULT TIME.

[Kokomo91165]

Just as a side note. Celebrity is strict on 21+ in their cocktail hour. Once again looks like RCL is pushing their repeat clientele towards X.

[HerculesPP]

I have paid significant costs for my daughter, a very grown up 9 year-old to be with us in our Owner's suite on both past and future cruises.

She knows right from wrong, has impeccable manners (better than some adults I've witnessed in the CL) and knows mummy & daddy like the occasional drink. It is no-one’s business to comment whether it is good or bad for her to be in an environment where alcohol is present; as her parent it is my call. She also knows that if a seat is required by an adult or someone in more need than she, she should offer to give up her seat wherever this may be.

I'm stunned by the elitist attitude of some and I for one welcome the move to allow her into the CL for a pre-dinner drink with her parents. Perhaps you should ask for the dining rooms to stop serving drinks and wine, or the Captain's cocktail reception to be a dry environment too? If people are so anxious about being around children on a cruise, they choose a better carrier whose offering is focussed towards their preferred demographic; or at least avoid cruises during school holidays. I for one, am not one of those parents who expect staff of hotels, airlines (yes she flies first class too!), or cruise ships to look after their children whilst the parents sit at a bar – please do not generalise some badly behaved children with poor parent supervision and assume all children are all the same.

If I hear any negativity or barbed comments whilst onboard; I look forward to my strongly worded riposte

Rant over.

[marci22]

I don't think there will be huge amounts of children in the CL because of this policy. Some parents with very young children may bring them in if they don't have another alternative. People pay a lot of money for suites and CL is one of the better perks. Older children may come in the first night and when they see that it's boring, they won't return. Or they may grab some snacks and leave, fine.

 

And as everyone here always loves to say, the people running the cruiseline know what they are doing, or they wouldn't be doing it, right? I'm sure they have reasons for making the change.

[phish tales]

Because a Concierge will not work for nothing.

 

Concierge job is like any other job in today's market. if a Concierge leave his job there will be 100 qualified cruise ship employees standing in line to fill in. there will always be a Concierge and the tips will keep coming for him or her.

i do feel they will eventually fade D+ out of the CL so they have more space to properly take care of their suite people and their PC. (and their children if this rumor is true). but keep in mind , there will always be a CL and a qualified Concierge. it is part of what keeps RCCL afloat.

[curley23]

I don't think there will be huge amounts of children in the CL because of this policy. Some parents with very young children may bring them in if they don't have another alternative. People pay a lot of money for suites and CL is one of the better perks. Older children may come in the first night and when they see that it's boring, they won't return. Or they may grab some snacks and leave, fine.

 

And as everyone here always loves to say, the people running the cruiseline know what they are doing, or they wouldn't be doing it, right? I'm sure they have reasons for making the change.

 

Well, this is probably the most sensible comment on this entire thread. Couldn't agree more. Thank you Marci

[curley23]

I have paid significant costs for my daughter, a very grown up 9 year-old to be with us in our Owner's suite on both past and future cruises.

 

She knows right from wrong, has impeccable manners (better than some adults I've witnessed in the CL) and knows mummy & daddy like the occasional drink. It is no-one’s business to comment whether it is good or bad for her to be in an environment where alcohol is present; as her parent it is my call. She also knows that if a seat is required by an adult or someone in more need than she, she should offer to give up her seat wherever this may be.

 

I'm stunned by the elitist attitude of some and I for one welcome the move to allow her into the CL for a pre-dinner drink with her parents. Perhaps you should ask for the dining rooms to stop serving drinks and wine, or the Captain's cocktail reception to be a dry environment too? If people are so anxious about being around children on a cruise, they choose a better carrier whose offering is focussed towards their preferred demographic; or at least avoid cruises during school holidays. I for one, am not one of those parents who expect staff of hotels, airlines (yes she flies first class too!), or cruise ships to look after their children whilst the parents sit at a bar – please do not generalise some badly behaved children with poor parent supervision and assume all children are all the same.

 

If I hear any negativity or barbed comments whilst onboard; I look forward to my strongly worded riposte

 

Rant over.

 

No problem Welcome to CC. no reason to be stunned, as you will see a lot of this.

[Bakincakes]

I'm so glad that members of CC seem to have the most intelligent..well behaved..mannerly children who sail.:rolleyes:

 

So it must be only the children of non CC members who cause issues on ships.

 

Maybe membership to CC should be mandatory so that ALL kids who sail will become the most intelligent...well behaved and mannerly?:D

[traveling1969]

Many parents have a blind spot when it comes to their own children. It's always "MY" child is well behaved and "MY" child would never make a fuss. They are always the last ones to remove an unruly child from wherever they choose to throw their latest tantrum. I remember a sign I saw at a local restaurant which said "Obedience-trained children only!". Probably won't see one of those on board:(. With the intimate setting and close quarters, it's just not the right place for children. This may not be a popular view with parents but it's my opinion and I'm sticking with it. If this is indeed a new fleetwide policy then I expect that our comments to RCCL will determine whether it remains so. Bon Voyage!

[BillB48]

Kids don't belong in the CL.... everyone knows they belong in the elevators with all the decks pushed. They just love seeing the lights all lit up:eek:!

 

I can see it now, the barkeep in the CL will come take my order and I'll get right after he whips up a half dozen Shirley Temples or Roy Rogers!!!

 

I was talking to Amit (D Concierge of Freedom) on a recent cruise and asked him how many D+ were aboard. He told me 26, which surprised me... he added there will be alot more starting in September. That puzzled me so I could not resist in asking why...... he answered "everyone knows that D+ passengers have a terrible allergy to kids, school is back in session." I think he's right!

 

Whatever the outcome, I'm sure we will survive this latest shock to the system.

[mommabean]

I have paid significant costs for my daughter, a very grown up 9 year-old to be with us in our Owner's suite on both past and future cruises.

She knows right from wrong, has impeccable manners (better than some adults I've witnessed in the CL) and knows mummy & daddy like the occasional drink. It is no-one’s business to comment whether it is good or bad for her to be in an environment where alcohol is present; as her parent it is my call. She also knows that if a seat is required by an adult or someone in more need than she, she should offer to give up her seat wherever this may be.

I'm stunned by the elitist attitude of some and I for one welcome the move to allow her into the CL for a pre-dinner drink with her parents. Perhaps you should ask for the dining rooms to stop serving drinks and wine, or the Captain's cocktail reception to be a dry environment too? If people are so anxious about being around children on a cruise, they choose a better carrier whose offering is focussed towards their preferred demographic; or at least avoid cruises during school holidays. I for one, am not one of those parents who expect staff of hotels, airlines (yes she flies first class too!), or cruise ships to look after their children whilst the parents sit at a bar – please do not generalise some badly behaved children with poor parent supervision and assume all children are all the same.

If I hear any negativity or barbed comments whilst onboard; I look forward to my strongly worded riposte

Rant over.

 

Not really. I've checked the cost of a 3rd and 4th person in a GS and higher and it's little if ANY more than a 3rd or 4th person in any other room. And that is cheap.

 

My upcoming cruise in November. GS - $2299 per person. 3rd person - $399. NOT a significant cost. No wonder it's families who are booking up the suites. It's cheaper than getting their kids their own non-suite room.

 

By the way - it's $399 for a 3rd person in an interior room on the same cruise.

 

Gina

[Babyberger]

Not really. I've checked the cost of a 3rd and 4th person in a GS and higher and it's little if ANY more than a 3rd or 4th person in any other room. And that is cheap.

 

My upcoming cruise in November. GS - $2299 per person. 3rd person - $399. NOT a significant cost. No wonder it's families who are booking up the suites. It's cheaper than getting their kids their own non-suite room.

 

By the way - it's $399 for a 3rd person in an interior room on the same cruise.

 

Gina

 

Cost depends completely on your ship and sailing date. I am paying $1299.00 for each of my children for our suite in November.

[grand isle joe]

Not really. I've checked the cost of a 3rd and 4th person in a GS and higher and it's little if ANY more than a 3rd or 4th person in any other room. And that is cheap.

 

My upcoming cruise in November. GS - $2299 per person. 3rd person - $399. NOT a significant cost. No wonder it's families who are booking up the suites. It's cheaper than getting their kids their own non-suite room.

 

By the way - it's $399 for a 3rd person in an interior room on the same cruise.

 

Gina

 

 

 

.....$5000.00 is alot more money than $699.00 for an inside room in my world.... but I guess if you are D+ is akin as Royalty and all must bow to the wishes of your highness(es)....;)

[HerculesPP]

Not really. I've checked the cost of a 3rd and 4th person in a GS and higher and it's little if ANY more than a 3rd or 4th person in any other room. And that is cheap.

 

My upcoming cruise in November. GS - $2299 per person. 3rd person - $399. NOT a significant cost. No wonder it's families who are booking up the suites. It's cheaper than getting their kids their own non-suite room.

 

By the way - it's $399 for a 3rd person in an interior room on the same cruise.

 

Gina

 

Firstly, what I may find significant you may not - costs are subjective.

Secondly, you need to check your facts before you speculate what I or others may have paid. In my case we're talking approximately £1,800 ~$2,900 USD for my daughter.

 

Get over it.

[sgaliger]

Many parents have a blind spot when it comes to their own children. It's always "MY" child is well behaved and "MY" child would never make a fuss. They are always the last ones to remove an unruly child from wherever they choose to throw their latest tantrum. I remember a sign I saw at a local restaurant which said "Obedience-trained children only!". Probably won't see one of those on board:(. With the intimate setting and close quarters, it's just not the right place for children. This may not be a popular view with parents but it's my opinion and I'm sticking with it. If this is indeed a new fleetwide policy then I expect that our comments to RCCL will determine whether it remains so. Bon Voyage!

 

Many old people have a blind spot when it comes to themselves. It's always I'M well behaved and I would never make a fuss. In fact, I saw a sign at a restaurant "Obedience trained old-people only" It was probably not the right place for old people who walk slowly and block the aisles with their walkers and canes and everything. Plus a lot of them talk louder because their hearing is going. This may not be popular opinion with old people, but I'm sticking with it. Hopefully, the CL will ban old people who have canes or walkers or talk too loudly. They also complain CONSTANTLY; just read any thread about children.