lake5298 Posted September 14, 2014 #1 Share Posted September 14, 2014 If Scotland votes for independence, will P&O have to rethink the flag on the hull? . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRISH BISH Posted September 14, 2014 #2 Share Posted September 14, 2014 My thoughts too maybe they havent done the flag on Brittania yet:eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majortom10 Posted September 14, 2014 #3 Share Posted September 14, 2014 They havent been painted yet and when I asked Christopher Edgington on the recent Q&A on Cruisecritic he failed to give an answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lake5298 Posted September 14, 2014 Author #4 Share Posted September 14, 2014 (edited) They havent been painted yet and when I asked Christopher Edgington on the recent Q&A on Cruisecritic he failed to give an answer. It's got to be sensitive - if Scotland gains independence P&O could easily offend potential passengers whichever flag they paint on the ships - we might see news reports saying "not enough dry dock time to paint flag" Of course, if Independence does not happen, the flag ceases to be a hot potato. Personally, I quite like the look of the red and white flag... Edited September 14, 2014 by lake5298 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monorail Orange Posted September 14, 2014 #5 Share Posted September 14, 2014 I suppose it could actually be a bit of a headache for P&O. If it is a Yes vote, and there's enough opinion that the Union Flag does need changing, then no doubt it'll take months and months of deliberation and endless focus groups to get a new design approved (maybe even a referendum on which one we have). Which then means that P&O would have to wait before getting the paint out. No point painting the current flag if they think it could become obsolete. Then there's the other school of thought that, even with a Yes vote, the flag will remain the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scifimonkey Posted September 17, 2014 #6 Share Posted September 17, 2014 (edited) If P&O were proud enough of their UK heritage to brand their ships with the UK flag why would they change it unless the UK changed its flag. Frankly I cannot see why any government would wish to ditch hundreds of years of history and one of the most valuable brand logos in the world just because a small percentage of the population circa 2.5 million from nearly 70 did not share P&O's pride in being a part of the UK so why should or would P&O change their plans. I wonder if celebrity will repaint their funnels and change their flags? Edited September 17, 2014 by scifimonkey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newport dave Posted September 17, 2014 #7 Share Posted September 17, 2014 The blue doesn't have to be removed from the Union flag if Scotland votes Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majortom10 Posted September 17, 2014 #8 Share Posted September 17, 2014 If P&O were proud enough of their UK heritage to brand their ships with the UK flag why would they change it unless the UK changed its flag. Frankly I cannot see why any government would wish to ditch hundreds of years of history and one of the most valuable brand logos in the world just because a small percentage of the population circa 2.5 million from nearly 70 did not share P&O's pride in being a part of the UK so why should or would P&O change their plans. I wonder if celebrity will repaint their funnels and change their flags? They would have to change it if Scotland became independent because the blue in the Union Flag is flag of St Andrews and therefore because they would no longer be in the UK how can their flag be part of the Union Flag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CCFC Posted September 17, 2014 #9 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Flags can be any colour, the blue doesn't have to be removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brayman Posted September 17, 2014 #10 Share Posted September 17, 2014 The blue was put there by the monarch in 1603-ish, so the politicians should keep out of it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRISH BISH Posted September 18, 2014 #11 Share Posted September 18, 2014 It was the flag of the United Kingdom and so cannot stay the same if Scotland are not part of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ataraxia Posted September 18, 2014 #12 Share Posted September 18, 2014 It would be the blue of the tory party who will rule forever without the scottish MPs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shallwe Posted September 18, 2014 #13 Share Posted September 18, 2014 To be honest, I couldn't really give a damn. The Union Jack looks great as it is. Scotland or no Scotland doesn't come into it in my mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brayman Posted September 18, 2014 #14 Share Posted September 18, 2014 It was the flag of the United Kingdom and so cannot stay the same if Scotland are not part of it. And we would still be the Union of England, Wales and Northern Island. Everyone knows the flag, there would be no reason to change it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve ch Posted September 18, 2014 #15 Share Posted September 18, 2014 And we would still be the Union of England, Wales and Northern Island. Everyone knows the flag, there would be no reason to change it. And Cornwall!;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monorail Orange Posted September 18, 2014 #16 Share Posted September 18, 2014 because they would no longer be in the UK how can their flag be part of the Union Flag. There is precedent for that. Hawai'i is no longer connected to the UK, but the Union Flag remains in the canton of the State flag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeanlyon Posted September 18, 2014 #17 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Don't care what they do to the flag as long as they don't paint all over the bow of a ship. Looks bloody awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorset Cruiser Posted September 18, 2014 #18 Share Posted September 18, 2014 It was the flag of the United Kingdom and so cannot stay the same if Scotland are not part of it. Why? We will still be united with Wales and Northern Ireland 😄 Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scifimonkey Posted September 19, 2014 #19 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Well done Scotland no need to change the flag! Now let's have a vote on independence for England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scifimonkey Posted September 19, 2014 #20 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Just joking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanjam cruisers Posted September 19, 2014 #21 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Now it is time for The UK Goverment to sort the "West Lothian " question. In a modern devolved UK, MPs not representing English Constituencies should not be allowed to vote in Matters which only concern England. In fact England should and must now have its own Parliment it is only fair and I as a very proud Scot and British would fully support that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjwa Posted September 19, 2014 #22 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Now it is time for The UK Goverment to sort the "West Lothian " question. In a modern devolved UK, MPs not representing English Constituencies should not be allowed to vote in Matters which only concern England. In fact England should and must now have its own Parliment it is only fair and I as a very proud Scot and British would fully support that. I totally agree with the above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgs1956 Posted September 19, 2014 #23 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Now it is time for The UK Goverment to sort the "West Lothian " question. In a modern devolved UK, MPs not representing English Constituencies should not be allowed to vote in Matters which only concern England. In fact England should and must now have its own Parliment it is only fair and I as a very proud Scot and British would fully support that. Well said, So proud to be both a Scot and British. Scotland have opened the door for a devolved UK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shallwe Posted September 19, 2014 #24 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Now it is time for The UK Goverment to sort the "West Lothian " question. In a modern devolved UK, MPs not representing English Constituencies should not be allowed to vote in Matters which only concern England. In fact England should and must now have its own Parliment it is only fair and I as a very proud Scot and British would fully support that. This isn't as easy as it sounds. If a Labour government came in, they would have problems getting their own 'English' policies through as many of their MP's represent Scottish or Welsh constituents and wouldn't be able to vote. The opposition parties could therefore make a majority and be able to defeat them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeanlyon Posted September 19, 2014 #25 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Thank goodness for that. If we get Milliband in next I dread to think what he will do :-( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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