hladygirl Posted March 4, 2017 #251 Share Posted March 4, 2017 What's stronger? The "uncontrollable" urge for you to click on the thread AND post in the thread or the "uncontrollable" urge to smoke?:confused: Hah! Hah ! I knew I would get flamed by some jerk. No I do not smoke. Just tired of talking about the subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two Wheels Only Posted March 4, 2017 #252 Share Posted March 4, 2017 Hah! Hah ! I knew I would get flamed by some jerk. No I do not smoke. Just tired of talking about the subject. What mystical force is making you click on the thread and reply (3 times?) as opposed to just ignoring it?:rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kayjay76 Posted March 4, 2017 #253 Share Posted March 4, 2017 There are very few areas where you can smoke onboard to begin with, so as long as people are following the rules, I see no reason it should adversely affect non-smoking guests. I agree with the above. No and No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlessedandGrateful Posted March 4, 2017 #254 Share Posted March 4, 2017 1. Yes, would absolutely book non smoking cruise 2. No, should not have to pay more for a healthy environment I have serious reactions to cigarette smoke. We were on the Norwegian Jewel for a week last year an there was no enforcement of set smoking areas. It was unbearable. I ended up with an upper respiratory infection and was sick for almost 6 weeks. Sent from my iPad using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeAllLove2Travel Posted March 4, 2017 #255 Share Posted March 4, 2017 We cruise on cost and itinerary and would love there to be no smoking but accept that others would want to smoke. I wish smokers would be confined to a single room with an expellair with an efficient scrubber. Ditto!! Us too on all accounts! I see people cruise one cruise line or one ship only regardless of where it's going. We book based on itinerary, sale dates and cost. We've gotta juggle work and kids' school schedule so not nearly as flexible. Smoke free or smoke restricted sounds nice as well. My husband enjoys the casino and since there's usually smoking allowed in there I don't go with him. He dislikes the smoking but it usually seems that all casinos practically equate a smoky environment. I'd book a non smoking cruise in a heartbeat but wouldn't want to pay more for it. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeAllLove2Travel Posted March 4, 2017 #256 Share Posted March 4, 2017 Can anyone tell me what happened if people were caught on the Paradise smoking? Were they taken off the ship or just wrist slapped? Seems hard to control short of guests turning other people in.. I wondered the same thing! Seems like people refuse to follow rules anymore so I could see someone intentionally booking a non smoking cruise and choosing to openly smoke just to be obnoxious. Good question! How would they enforce it? Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casino Comp Chick Posted March 4, 2017 #257 Share Posted March 4, 2017 What I find interesting is the fact that a smoker would pay more to keep smoking but a non-smoker will not. These are the same non-smokers that say if the casinos were smoke free they would gamble more. I believe that is the exact reason NCL allows smoking in the casinos because a smoker will max bet all day/all night and a non-smoker will continue to play their 30 cent/60 cent bets while taking up prime real estate in the casino. I see it all the time when I venture into the non-smoking section of the BA which is empty most of the time unlike the smoking section that you have to sometimes wait to get a machine. Trust me, CAS knows exactly what they are doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvtheships Posted March 4, 2017 #258 Share Posted March 4, 2017 What I find interesting is the fact that a smoker would pay more to keep smoking but a non-smoker will not. These are the same non-smokers that say if the casinos were smoke free they would gamble more. I believe that is the exact reason NCL allows smoking in the casinos because a smoker will max bet all day/all night and a non-smoker will continue to play their 30 cent/60 cent bets while taking up prime real estate in the casino. I see it all the time when I venture into the non-smoking section of the BA which is empty most of the time unlike the smoking section that you have to sometimes wait to get a machine. Trust me, CAS knows exactly what they are doing. You are painting a very interesting picture of a smoking gambler. I guess the 2 types of people you describe have different priorities. Some might even say it's the 30 cent non smokers who has it all together Some might say is the maxing out 24/7 smoking gambler Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
put me on a ship Posted March 4, 2017 #259 Share Posted March 4, 2017 No and no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NLH Arizona Posted March 4, 2017 #260 Share Posted March 4, 2017 You are painting a very interesting picture of a smoking gambler. I guess the 2 types of people you describe have different priorities. Some might even say it's the 30 cent non smokers who has it all together Some might say is the maxing out 24/7 smoking gambler Sent from my iPhone using Forums I think some are making generalizations that are not correct. I'm a non-smoker and I play the maximum, just as many non-smokers do. I go to Las Vegas and other gambling locations and the number of smokers, whether they play the maximum or 30 cents a hand (yes, many of them play only 30 cents a hand as well), have declined drastically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare richstowe Posted March 4, 2017 #261 Share Posted March 4, 2017 What's stronger? The "uncontrollable" urge for you to click on the thread AND post in the thread or the "uncontrollable" urge to smoke?:confused:Great response to " some jerk " . Sick of a topic ? Don't click , don't post ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvtheships Posted March 4, 2017 #262 Share Posted March 4, 2017 I think some are making generalizations that are not correct. I'm a non-smoker and I play the maximum, just as many non-smokers do. I go to Las Vegas and other gambling locations and the number of smokers, whether they play the maximum or 30 cents a hand (yes, many of them play only 30 cents a hand as well), have declined drastically. Actually the poster who is making the generalizations is the one I quoted Re read post #257 Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two Wheels Only Posted March 4, 2017 #263 Share Posted March 4, 2017 What I find interesting is the fact that a smoker would pay more to keep smoking but a non-smoker will not. The reason is probably because non-smokers aren't causing a problem. Non-smokers aren't endangering the life of anyone. Non-smokers aren't causing property damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NLH Arizona Posted March 4, 2017 #264 Share Posted March 4, 2017 Actually the poster who is making the generalizations is the one I quoted Re read post #257 Sent from my iPhone using Forums Yes, that is what I meant. I was pretty much agreeing with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatka Posted March 4, 2017 #265 Share Posted March 4, 2017 (edited) It seems like the only real problem is a casino. So if casino was nonsmoking and ship had only limited outside smoking zones which smokers would follow there would be no need for smokeless cruises. Correct? Edited March 4, 2017 by Tatka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NLH Arizona Posted March 4, 2017 #266 Share Posted March 4, 2017 It seems like the only real problem is a casino. So if casino was never nonsmoking and ship had only limited outside smoking zones which smokers would follow there would be no need for smokeless cruises. Correct? I think if the casinos were non-smoking, most non-smokers wouldn't have an issue with outside smoking areas, since they could avoid them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatka Posted March 4, 2017 #267 Share Posted March 4, 2017 In my mind it's doable. Non smoking on balconies was much more critical change. I think non smoking ship will not work. Maybe a couple of sailings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NLH Arizona Posted March 4, 2017 #268 Share Posted March 4, 2017 In my mind it's doable. Non smoking on balconies was much more critical change. I think non smoking ship will not work. Maybe a couple of sailings. I think you would be surprised. With so many families cruising today, they don't want their children exposed to smoke. Not to mention, non-smokers who don't want to have to be around (smell) it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rllewis Posted March 4, 2017 #269 Share Posted March 4, 2017 I wonder if NCL ever looked into having specific cruises be 100% non-smoking? If they did: 1. Would you book one? 2. Would you be willing to pay a premium to book a cruise that was 100% smoke-free? 1. Yes 2. NO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvtheships Posted March 4, 2017 #270 Share Posted March 4, 2017 It seems like the only real problem is a casino. So if casino was nonsmoking and ship had only limited outside smoking zones which smokers would follow there would be no need for smokeless cruises. Correct? IMHO it's the casinos on these newer ships that are open air and situated right in the middle of other areas that are fun to be in... For example on the BA there are several bars and seating areas plus le bistro (at least partially) that are basically (unofficially ) off limits to non smokers ...at least those non smokers who want to avoid smoke anyway Also in the ba casino the non smoking areas are only feet away from the smoking area with no enclosure at all The simple fix is 2 casinos and/or floor to ceiling plexiglas versus 4 foot high plexiglass...that is what the engineers should be designing but they are not .... And it's not like ncl and the ship designers are oblivious to the smoking complaints Smh Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare richstowe Posted March 4, 2017 #271 Share Posted March 4, 2017 Having read this and way too many other smoking threads all over CC :o (hate this new emoji) I must say this is a no win situation for the cruise lines . They get ***** either way . My issue is when then don't want to enforce their own rules . Secondly as a non-smoker the situation is much better then before . In truth the changes have been relatively quick and significant . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendzierski1 Posted March 4, 2017 #272 Share Posted March 4, 2017 Yes, no Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrilled2012 Posted March 4, 2017 #273 Share Posted March 4, 2017 1. No, I would not book a non smoking cruise 2. No, I would not pay a premium for it (since I would not book one) :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot Posted March 4, 2017 #274 Share Posted March 4, 2017 Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot Posted March 4, 2017 #275 Share Posted March 4, 2017 Yes. No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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