LuCruise Posted October 24, 2017 #26 Share Posted October 24, 2017 Allure is my favorite but will be on Harmony in Dec and again next Sept for the President's cruise, so hoping we like it as much as Allure. We will probably do Symphony at some point just to be on the next ship in that class, but will wait for a decent price. For our cruise over March break, I was surprised to see that Harmony was a substantial amount more expensive than Symphony. Maybe it depends what week, but I still don't understand why. Sent from my ONEPLUS A3000 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kfamilycruise Posted October 24, 2017 #27 Share Posted October 24, 2017 Our last Royal cruise was the Oasis, so I'm really looking forward to seeing the Symphony next June. I was really surprised about the solo cabin removal, but glad they accommodated those that booked in other ways. Can't wait to see what she looks like! I'm afraid the only down size will be not being able to see everything to do because the Med is so port intensive. Great problem to have! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swath Posted October 24, 2017 #28 Share Posted October 24, 2017 I wonder how Good the Seafood Restaurant will be, I wish that Royal had Not taken it off Oasis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molly361 Posted October 24, 2017 #29 Share Posted October 24, 2017 I wonder how Good the Seafood Restaurant will be, I wish that Royal had Not taken it off OasisI'm curious about that as well. Sent from my BG2-W09 using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ourusualbeach Posted October 24, 2017 #30 Share Posted October 24, 2017 I'm curious about that as well. Sent from my BG2-W09 using Forums mobile app Add another to the list waiting to see the menu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ourusualbeach Posted October 24, 2017 #31 Share Posted October 24, 2017 For our cruise over March break, I was surprised to see that Harmony was a substantial amount more expensive than Symphony. Maybe it depends what week, but I still don't understand why. Sent from my ONEPLUS A3000 using Tapatalk I think that it may be due to the fact that Harmony is a Sunday departure. For many the Saturday departure means flying in the day of or taking an extra day off work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulette3028 Posted October 24, 2017 #32 Share Posted October 24, 2017 Harmony is not as good as Allure.One absolute improvement they made on Harmony was the closets in staterooms. The closet on Allure (which we have sailed on) was horrible; we have since sailed on Harmony and they have put wardrobes in cabins on each side of the sofa. Each wardrobe had plenty of space for hanging items and it has shelves and drawers. Great improvement. We did not enjoy the solarium on Allure, it was brutally hot, but at least had a pool. Harmony's solarium was cooler, but lacked a pool and those misters are terrible. I loved Harmony for the slides as well.....so in the end to each their own. We very much enjoyed sailing on Allure....we are sailing on her again over Thanksgiving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuCruise Posted October 24, 2017 #33 Share Posted October 24, 2017 I think that it may be due to the fact that Harmony is a Sunday departure. For many the Saturday departure means flying in the day of or taking an extra day off workGood point. We would have preferred Sunday too as we'll have to take our kids out of school a day early (which is whole reason for picking March break). Sent from my ONEPLUS A3000 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare mac_tlc Posted October 24, 2017 #34 Share Posted October 24, 2017 Looking forward to the Symphony OTS, as much for the vastly improved Western Caribbean itinerary (IMHO) as anything else. I am not a fan of the Ultimate Abyss. I think it took what is a very unique feature of the Oasis class (Boardwalk/Aquatheater/aft view, and ruined it. I hope they lose the plans for it before Oasis and Allure go into drydock in a couple years. Haven't been on Harmony, mostly because it is substantially more expensive than Oasis when I have compared similar weeks, and the fact that our house in Orlando is 40 minutes from PC. mac_tlc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BNBR Posted October 24, 2017 #35 Share Posted October 24, 2017 One absolute improvement they made on Harmony was the closets in staterooms. The closet on Allure (which we have sailed on) was horrible; we have since sailed on Harmony and they have put wardrobes in cabins on each side of the sofa. Each wardrobe had plenty of space for hanging items and it has shelves and drawers. Great improvement. We did not enjoy the solarium on Allure, it was brutally hot, but at least had a pool. Harmony's solarium was cooler, but lacked a pool and those misters are terrible. I loved Harmony for the slides as well.....so in the end to each their own. We very much enjoyed sailing on Allure....we are sailing on her again over Thanksgiving. I agree that the Harmony staterooms are very nice. I personally just don't care that much about things like that. Allure and Oasis are perfectly nice enough. I didn't love the Harmony closets smashed up against the side of the bed, so when I opened my eyes, I was looking at a closet... not ideal if you have the bed closest to the door version of the room. I had to sit up just to see outside. But from a practicality standpoint, the Harmony rooms are stellar. We discussed the fact that we see no reason to get a Junior Suite ever again during our Harmony cruise. The cabin was just that good overall. The solarium, the angles of the roof on Harmony are so much different, and with the shaded panels and the flapping, broken, foggy plastic panels, I felt that unless you are down on the lower solarium decks, the view was highly obstructed from the bar area. And not only was it missing the pool, but missing the little ponds and water and sitting areas near the bistro. It's very "blah" and missing that tropical vibe, plus a highly obstructed view. Notice the difference below. On Harmony, unless you are in front of the glass on the lower deck, you basically can't see out. It totally loses that 180 degree ocean view. The plastic panels, broken and flapping in the wind, many missing... are angled so you just can't see out from the mid and upper decks at all. ALLURE: HARMONY: Harmony is also missing the great little tropical areas near the bistro. It's just all so plain. Allure, for example: Harmony: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ourusualbeach Posted October 25, 2017 #36 Share Posted October 25, 2017 Good point. We would have preferred Sunday too as we'll have to take our kids out of school a day early (which is whole reason for picking March break). Sent from my ONEPLUS A3000 using Tapatalk We are lucky, our board designates the Friday prior to March break as a board holiday. It opens up a few more options for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuCruise Posted October 25, 2017 #37 Share Posted October 25, 2017 We are lucky, our board designates the Friday prior to March break as a board holiday. It opens up a few more options for us. Nice. That's great! We don't have that but am "counting on" the Friday before March break being more of a fun day and less of a learning day. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ourusualbeach Posted October 25, 2017 #38 Share Posted October 25, 2017 Nice. That's great! We don't have that but am "counting on" the Friday before March break being more of a fun day and less of a learning day. ;) That would be the Thursday for our kids. I usually take them out of school Thursday afternoon. Sent from my STH100-1 using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earlydiner Posted October 25, 2017 #39 Share Posted October 25, 2017 We have booked the Symphony for March 30, 2019. Question--When is your spring break in March 2019? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethelfleda Posted October 25, 2017 #40 Share Posted October 25, 2017 I wound up backing into the President's cruise on the Harmony. We are going with a group on the cruise right afterwards and my friend and I decided it would be fun to do our first B2B. I didn't have a clue it was the President's cruise until well after we booked. This will be the first cruise I've been on with the bilateral flowrider set up. I can't wait for the extended hours for stand up! If Harmony does me right, I'm sure I'll be trying out all of the Oasis class ships - so I hope Symphony is up to snuff. Allure is my favorite but will be on Harmony in Dec and again next Sept for the President's cruise, so hoping we like it as much as Allure. We will probably do Symphony at some point just to be on the next ship in that class, but will wait for a decent price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ourusualbeach Posted October 25, 2017 #41 Share Posted October 25, 2017 We have booked the Symphony for March 30, 2019. Question--When is your spring break in March 2019? Spring break for kids in k-12 in Ontario is the week of March 11-15 2019. From late February through to Easter it is spring break somewhere either for the younger kids or college / university students....lots of kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KathleenM17 Posted October 25, 2017 Author #42 Share Posted October 25, 2017 Is the Symphony going to have the slides? Yes I believe so - the same ones as Harmony - 3 water and the Abyss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KathleenM17 Posted October 25, 2017 Author #43 Share Posted October 25, 2017 Its interesting to see so many people favour Harmony and so many dislike it? Also, do you think Harmony sailings will be cheaper when Symphony launches? I wonder will it become less popular? Based on feedback on Oasis and Allure, probably not but maybe it will be a more budget attainable ship for those who are price conscious once Symphony comes out. There's so much choice, its hard to know what to do! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deliver42 Posted October 25, 2017 #44 Share Posted October 25, 2017 The funny thing is that when I booked the Symphony, it was actually less than the Harmony. Go figure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BecciBoo Posted October 25, 2017 #45 Share Posted October 25, 2017 (edited) Yes, exactly, I loved Solarium on Allure. I realize there are some maintenance issues with water features and it seems that from the aquarium in Bolero's(Aquarium Bar on Voyager to the Vision class and the removal of the fountains under the centrum stairs, RCCL has phased out the water features. Even the Freedom class Windjammer bar waterfall does not run anymore! I'll bet most people didn't even notice that wall of water trickling down under the Plaza Bar sign: I love water features and have been so disappointed with the phase out of them all. Hoping Symphany has restored at least the pool no matter how small in Solarium. Edited October 25, 2017 by BecciBoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ourusualbeach Posted October 25, 2017 #46 Share Posted October 25, 2017 Its interesting to see so many people favour Harmony and so many dislike it? Also, do you think Harmony sailings will be cheaper when Symphony launches? I wonder will it become less popular? Based on feedback on Oasis and Allure, probably not but maybe it will be a more budget attainable ship for those who are price conscious once Symphony comes out. There's so much choice, its hard to know what to do! :) Pricing wise I think you will for the most part see that both Harmony and Symphony priced at a premium over Allure and Oasis. You will probably see some weeks where Harmony is priced higher than Symphony based on demand for a Sunday departure vs a Saturday departure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Oceansaway17 Posted October 26, 2017 #47 Share Posted October 26, 2017 The Symphony will have Solo rooms but they are on deck 4 as Oceanview rooms. I know because I have one for Nov 2018. I was on the first full 7 days cruise on Harmony last year and a lot of folks had their dining and shows changed suddenly. I also did not like the Solarium and agree it was windy and noisy. I felt the Allure was better also without the ugly pink dry slide. Looks like Symphony will have that again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Oceansaway17 Posted October 26, 2017 #48 Share Posted October 26, 2017 one more thing I hope they line up the three sisters for Symphony when it comes over from Europe. Having all FOUR side by side would be cool too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BNBR Posted October 26, 2017 #49 Share Posted October 26, 2017 Yes, exactly, I loved Solarium on Allure. I realize there are some maintenance issues with water features and it seems that from the aquarium in Bolero's(Aquarium Bar on Voyager to the Vision class and the removal of the fountains under the centrum stairs, RCCL has phased out the water features. Even the Freedom class Windjammer bar waterfall does not run anymore! I'll bet most people didn't even notice that wall of water trickling down under the Plaza Bar sign: I love water features and have been so disappointed with the phase out of them all. Hoping Symphany has restored at least the pool no matter how small in Solarium. Water features are great! Harmony felt plain and barren. Solarium pool is a deal breaker for me moving forward. I also prefer the bar over the slides on boardwalk though admittedly I did ride the slides a few times and they were quite fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker19 Posted October 26, 2017 #50 Share Posted October 26, 2017 The Symphony will have Solo rooms but they are on deck 4 as Oceanview rooms. I know because I have one for Nov 2018. Are you sure? Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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