New bonus precruise casino promotion

[ben.chan]

1 hour ago, ghstudio said:

 

It has been that way since they started......as long as you win, they leave the chip(s).  When you lose, they take the promotional chips.  Essentially, if you buy $100 worth of promotional chips, you have to lose $100 in chips.  Sounds bad, but no one wins every hand....and I certainly lose 10 hands at a $10 blackjack table over the course of an hour.  I also win regular chips and hopefully, I leave with more than the $100 I lost during the normal course of plan.  Just remember to always bet promotional chips when you have them.

 

Now don't get me started on the 6:5 odds on blackjacks....now that's something to be unhappy with....

 

I think this is for chips only, and not for slots credits?

At least for the free play slots credit they offered to lure people to go there, they get replaced with regular credits as soon as you have bet it over, if my memory serves me right...

[WonderMan3]

1 hour ago, ben.chan said:

 

I think this is for chips only, and not for slots credits?

At least for the free play slots credit they offered to lure people to go there, they get replaced with regular credits as soon as you have bet it over, if my memory serves me right...

 

You are correct.

[mn1111]

On 1/14/2019 at 3:48 PM, ghstudio said:

just a heads up....someone reported that the blackjack tables are now paying 6:5 on a blackjack unless you are at the $50 min table which still pays 3:2.  That eliminates Blackjack for me (and should eliminate it for everyone else too).

I agree with you 100%.  I actually won't play blackjack at all because of them hitting soft 17 and not allowing surrender.  I would sometimes just fool around with a few bucks if I had match plays, but 6:5 on  blackjack I won't even do that.  I gamble pretty heavily and will usually do $50 a hand minimum with a 1-6 spread, but not with those rules.  I always stick to craps on cruises, much much better odds.

[fstuff1]

2 hours ago, mn1111 said:

 I always stick to craps on cruises, much much better odds.

 

whats the min bet and odds on craps?

[woody14h]

Took promo on the Silhouette. Could only lose the chip, incl slots.  Never again.

[fstuff1]

48 minutes ago, woody14h said:

Took promo on the Silhouette. Could only lose the chip, incl slots.  Never again.

 

including slots?

so if you bought $500 slots, you get $50 bonus.

 

all $550 is considered promo?

so you have to keep cycling that $550 though the machines till you lose $550 before you start getting points?

 

let's say the machine is set to 85% return, meaning you lose 15%.

$550/15% = $3667

 

you have to cycle $3667 through the machine before you start earning points???

if so, that's 3667 points you are giving up for the $50 bonus!

 

Edited February 19, 2019 by fstuff1

[fstuff1]

18 hours ago, Knighton said:

Heads up on the promo chips. 

Bought a bunch of promo chips not happy with how they handle it at the table.  On the craps table, I put the promo chip on the line as well as for my odds, but when I won they did not replace the promo ones with a regular chip, they left it there.  Which means the only time you can get rid of them is if you lose them.  I've never been anywhere where promo chips aren't automatically replaced with playable chips you can go to the cage with when you win.

 

if you bought $500, you get $100 bonus chips.

when you get the chips, do they give you all $600 in promo chips?

or you get $500 regular chips  and $100 promo?

 

[woody14h]

Played for over 3 hours straight, could never retrieve the promo. Lost it all.  No big deal but disappointed when I was up $300 at one point and could not cash all out.

[Knighton]

19 minutes ago, fstuff1 said:

 

if you bought $500, you get $100 bonus chips.

when you get the chips, do they give you all $600 in promo chips?

or you get $500 regular chips  and $100 promo?

 

All promo chips.  That's what bothered me.

[fstuff1]

 

28 minutes ago, woody14h said:

Played for over 3 hours straight, could never retrieve the promo. Lost it all. 

No big deal but disappointed when I was up $300 at one point and could not cash all out.

 

When were you up $300? 1st 10min of playing? after an hour of playing?

 

 

26 minutes ago, Knighton said:

All promo chips.  That's what bothered me.

 

thanks Knighton! going to cancel my promo order.

since my cruise is comped from the casino, i rather have the points so i can continue getting future free cruises.

free cruise is worth more than $100 promo. :)

 

edit:

hm.. i ordered 10 $50+$5 promo chips.

i could only cancel 9 of them. the 10th isnt showing up??
and i only  got 9 email confirmations of canceling.

 

edit2:

called them. the csr said he sees 10 cancellations on his screen.

no idea why i only got 9 cancellation emails.

 

 

Edited February 19, 2019 by fstuff1

[woody14h]

8 minutes ago, fstuff1 said:

 

 

When were you up $300? 1st 10min of playing? after an hour of playing?

 

 

 

thanks Knighton! going to cancel my promo order.

since my cruise is comped from the casino, i rather have the points so i can continue getting future free cruises.

free cruise is worth more than $100 promo. 🙂

 

As I recall the up was in the first hour.  Tried several times after to no avail.  I'm not a big gambler but I thought that the so-called bonus would be somewhat unrestricted. I never found out when it could be retrieved.  Due to subsequent loss.  I'd like to hear other people's results as well.

[fstuff1]

5 minutes ago, woody14h said:

As I recall the up was in the first hour.  Tried several times after to no avail. 

I'm not a big gambler but I thought that the so-called bonus would be somewhat unrestricted.

I never found out when it could be retrieved.  

 

How much were you betting each spin?

 

Edited February 19, 2019 by fstuff1

[woody14h]

4 minutes ago, fstuff1 said:

 

How much were you betting each spin?

 

$0.25- $.40 per.  won a jackpot of $200+  once plus small stuff. Why is this important.  Maybe I'll learn something.

[woody14h]

BTW, I did not get promo chips.  Amount was embedded in my sea pass. Promo funds were retrievable when I accessed my account in the slot machine.

[fstuff1]

16 minutes ago, woody14h said:

$0.25- $.40 per.  won a jackpot of $200+  once plus small stuff.

Why is this important?  Maybe I'll learn something.

 

going to calculate how much you put through the machine.

 

most people do 8 spins per minute on a slot, on avg.

1 hr = 500 spins

at .25 per spin, you put $125 through the machine.

 

in land casinos, the way promo slot play works is you play though the free amount once and you keep everything.

so if $100 promo, then you just need to put $100 through the machine.

 

on celebrity, apparently it's keep playing till you lose the promo chips.

trying to figure out if that's also true for promo slot play.

 

1) How much were you able to cash out at the 1hr mark?

2) how much did you buy in for?

 

Edited February 19, 2019 by fstuff1

[woody14h]

19 minutes ago, fstuff1 said:

 

going to calculate how much you put through the machine.

 

most people do 8 spins per minute on a slot, on avg.

1 hr = 500 spins

at .25 per spin, you put $125 through the machine.

 

in land casinos, the way promo slot play works is you play though the free amount once and you keep everything.

so if $100 promo, then you just need to put $100 through the machine.

 

on celebrity, apparently it's keep playing till you lose the promo chips.

trying to figure out if that's also true for promo slot play.

 

1) How much were you able to cash out at the 1hr mark?

2) how much did you buy in for?

 

Went back over your original post.  Points were never an issue.  I could always retrieve my original investment but not the promo amount  .

[fstuff1]

Just now, woody14h said:

Went back over your original post.  Points were never an issue. 

I could always retrieve my original investment but not the promo amount  .

 

1) so you were getting points for you play?

2) if you bought in for $500 + $100 promo, you could withdraw the $500 no problem?

[woody14h]

YES. At least that's what it seemed to be.  This is my last post on this topic. Have work to do.

[WonderMan3]

I have not done one of these buy-in bonus deals before but I have had free play on my seapass many times in various forms (converting from points, prize from casino event or my Blue Chip Club tier status money). They all operate the same way though from my understanding. The amount of money is loaded on your card. You put in your pin number and it takes you to a screen to ask how much you want to download to a machine and it will show you how much you have available. If you have done one of these buy-in with a bonus promos then you should see the total amount, your buy-in plus the bonus amount, on your seapass card when you put in your pin. If you don't see the total amount then you should be going to the host or the cashier and asking them to fix it. And if you are getting an error in accessing any of that money and transferring it to a machine then again you should be going to the host or cashier to fix it. It's a very easy process to transfer money from your account to a slot machine. Once you put it into a slot then once you have played through the initial amount you added then any other money you have left on the machine is cashable. Example: You put $20 in the machine. You bet $2 per spin. After 10 spins you have finished playing through the casino credit. Whatever money is left on the machine at that point (which would be your winnings above the initial $20) is yours to freely cash out. If you had only done 5 spins at the $2 bet and decided to cash out, there would still be $10 left on the machine that you would have to play through.

 

As far as points are concerned, the standard rule is that when you download any free play from your card to a machine, while you are playing on that money you do not earn any points. So going back to my example above. Those first 10 spins at $2 per spin would earn zero player points. Once you have passed that mark then all additional spins played on your remaining amount of money on that machine will earn points because you are now playing with your money not house money. My understanding on these buy-in with bonus offers (based on fine print I read for one of these offers while on a recent cruise) is that the total amount loaded onto your card (both your buy-in and the bonus) will not earn you any points while you play. It will work just like the example I made above. So say you buy-in $100 and get $10 free. The $110 will be loaded on your card and then you transfer those amounts to a slot machine as you play. The entirety of that $110 is not cashable including the $100 you bought in with. It is treated like any other free play they load on your card. So if you transfer all $110 to a machine and do 11 spins at $10 per spin then you will not start earning points on any money until you have completed those 11 spins. Since all forms of free play loaded on your card all operate the same way (that I'm aware of) then I don't see how they could track points on $100 of the $110 loaded on your card, especially if there were other amounts of free play loaded on your card; it all gets combined into one total.

[WonderMan3]

Just dug through my Daily Planners from a recent cruise and found an ad for casino slot packages. This can add some clarity. So when you buy a package you will automatically get an amount of points added to your card equivalent to 1 point per $5 of the total amount of your buy-in plus bonus. Those points will be added regardless if you never play through any of this money. Those points can contribute to the total points you can cash in at the end of the cruise as free play or towards your room bill. You will NOT earn tier points though towards your Blue Chip status until you have played through that total amount of buy-in plus bonus as I described in my post above. Once you have played through that buy-in plus bonus then you earn both points towards your tier level status and towards your end of cruise cash in for free play or towards your bill.

 

 

[fstuff1]

thx.

 

it seems that the promo chips arent worth it but the promo slot play is

[doubled]

Wish they would give you Blue Chip points for your initial investment as that is real money you spent to get promo credits.  Talked to casino host and they are aware of this and have had several inquires but say system cannot handle right now.  We mention this on our survey at the end of each cruise.  Hopefully, if enough people continue to mention this they will change.

 

Art

[sfaaa]

4 hours ago, WonderMan3 said:

I have not done one of these buy-in bonus deals before but I have had free play on my seapass many times in various forms (converting from points, prize from casino event or my Blue Chip Club tier status money). They all operate the same way though from my understanding. The amount of money is loaded on your card. You put in your pin number and it takes you to a screen to ask how much you want to download to a machine and it will show you how much you have available. If you have done one of these buy-in with a bonus promos then you should see the total amount, your buy-in plus the bonus amount, on your seapass card when you put in your pin. If you don't see the total amount then you should be going to the host or the cashier and asking them to fix it. And if you are getting an error in accessing any of that money and transferring it to a machine then again you should be going to the host or cashier to fix it. It's a very easy process to transfer money from your account to a slot machine. Once you put it into a slot then once you have played through the initial amount you added then any other money you have left on the machine is cashable. Example: You put $20 in the machine. You bet $2 per spin. After 10 spins you have finished playing through the casino credit. Whatever money is left on the machine at that point (which would be your winnings above the initial $20) is yours to freely cash out. If you had only done 5 spins at the $2 bet and decided to cash out, there would still be $10 left on the machine that you would have to play through.....

 

Thank you for this very helpful explanation. Sounds like a raw deal. I am going to cancel my casino promo offer and use my OBC on something else.

[mn1111]

19 hours ago, fstuff1 said:

 

whats the min bet and odds on craps?

I think min is about $10.  The craps table has both the best and worst odds in the house.  If you stick with pass line and come bets and take double odds the house advantage is 6 tenths of one percent.  If you play the hard ways and one roll bets the advantage to the house can be as high as 17% or somewhere close to that.

If you are a blue chip member and can sign chips for free, you can actually be slightly ahead of the house.  I sign my chips to my cabin and pay with a 2% cashback card so I end up about 1.4% ahead mathematically (at least during the time the initial buy in is being played).  It can be a lot of fun as the same people tend to gravitate to the table every night so you get some camaraderie going .

[fstuff1]

29 minutes ago, mn1111 said:

I think min is about $10.

  If you stick with pass line and come bets and take double odds the house advantage is 6 tenths of one percent. 

 

So just 2x odds? 😞

 

do you get points for the odds bet?

ie: $10 passline, $20 odds should get you 3.75 points per roll if the casino counts all $30 of that bet