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On 1/9/2019 at 2:09 PM, Sitzmark said:

it is an antihistamine sold under the brand name Bonine.  It is OTC, you might want to google it.  You can also use Dramamine which is also OTC.  You should be able to get either one at most drug stores.

Tylenol PM also includes Diphenhydramine.  That's the difference between Tylenol and Tylenol PM.

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23 hours ago, lizp said:

It has been my experience that people who have never experienced motion-sickness simply can not comprehend just how awful it is.  There are even people out there who think motion-sickness is just a mental thing and not a physical reaction and those of us suffering should just "get over it" and we'll be fine.  If you are not experienced in something, why are you weighing in?  Who are you to judge how someone else lives their lives?  

 

The OP is asking for reassurances when the fact is there are none and the possible outcomes are not encouraging. 

 

The sea-sickness prone travel companion may be seasick despite the drugs.  She may be dizzy, drowsy or have her personalty altered by the affects of Scopolamine and/or other drugs particularly if she drinks.  Considering how sick she was on he first cruise at best they will both most likely be in a state of mild to moderate trepidation over whether the drugs and magic talisman will have the desired effect should the weather get rough. The OP is already apprehensive otherwise he/she would not be here seeking reassurance. 

 

The only scenario with a positive outcome is a rough first day, confirmation the anti-nausea measures worked and everyone relaxes for the rest of the cruise. 

 

 

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18 hours ago, RocketMan275 said:

Tylenol PM also includes Diphenhydramine.  That's the difference between Tylenol and Tylenol PM.

 

While that is the difference between Tylenol and Tylenol PM, that doesn't mean it will treat motion sickness  (and I should have quoted Sitzmark in this too, but don't know how to quote 2 people.  🙂 )  

 

To All: 

Please note the difference in dimenhydrinate and diphenhydramine.  They are not the same ingredient.

Dimenhydrinate:  Med used for inner ear disturbances and motion sicknesses....usually only found in motion sickness remedies

Diphenhydramine:  TRUE antihistamine found in Tylenol PM, Benedryl and many other cold medications

 

(and while we're on the subject)  Meclizine:  This is the ingredient in Bonine...another option for treating motion sickness

 

Just note for those seeking information about motion sickness remedies that dimenhydrinate and diphenhydramine are NOT interchangeable...totally different medications.  

Happy Cruising All!!!  

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On 1/11/2019 at 7:14 AM, K32682 said:

No one can offer the OP any reassurances. The only question is why after being "terribly sea sick" on one cruise her friend wants to go on another. 

 

There are people who are predisposed to motion sickness. They decorate themselves with bracelets and other magic amulets, munch ginger, pop Dramamine like they M&Ms and dose themselves up with powerful prescription drugs like Scopalamine.  

 

Is a holiday that you need to be doped up to enjoy worth taking?  Is it worth the anxiety and doubt every time the sea becomes a little choppy? 

 

Do you suggest people who are prone to motion sickness never leave their homes? I was "terribly sea sick" on my first cruise, and have thoroughly enjoyed 14 more with the assistance of Meclizine. I am not "doped up." It gives me ZERO side-effects. To answer your question: YES! The holiday is worth taking! Life is for living; not for staying home while allowing fear or anxiety to rule your life.

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18 minutes ago, payitforward said:

 

Do you suggest people who are prone to motion sickness never leave their homes? I was "terribly sea sick" on my first cruise, and have thoroughly enjoyed 14 more with the assistance of Meclizine. I am not "doped up." It gives me ZERO side-effects. To answer your question: YES! The holiday is worth taking! Life is for living; not for staying home while allowing fear or anxiety to rule your life.


There are many other vacation options that don't require magic amulets, popping pills, patches or constant fretting that rough seas might leave one incapacitated. 

 

 

 

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11 minutes ago, K32682 said:


There are many other vacation options that don't require magic amulets, popping pills, patches or constant fretting that rough seas might leave one incapacitated. 

 

 

 

Odds are those other vacations require flights, vehicle rides, etc. If one gets motion sick, they are just as likely go get sick on those trips. Then, there's also the fact that cruising provides a better value than most land vacations. Finally, there's the fact that I have a chronic illness. Cruising offers me a vacation where I only have to pack/unpack once, and I get to see multiple destinations while my bedroom travels with me. This allows me the option to rest whenever I need to. While YOU may not see the value in having to take something for motion sickness, it is the perfect option for ME.

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I suppose some people just cannot cruise even if they like the concept. Others can cruise but don't like it even though their partners do (which is why they still go). People do all sorts of things due to friends or families that they wouldn't normally choose for themselves.

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Thank you all for every comment. After everything we have read and on other posts as well, she has decided bonine the best option to try with ginger tabs as a back up. We are going and I for one will definitely have a good time...I hope she does! And if it doesn’t work, at least on port days she will have an enjoyable time. She said last time as soon as she wasn’t at sea she was fine.

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As a retired Coast Guard Captain who actually commanded a couple of our (CG) largest cutters, I've a lil experience with folks having their first experience on ships/boats.  I've SEEN seasickness!!!!!!

 

There are some folks who will NOT adjust no matter the drug or placebo ..... I had kids report in and could not sleep on the ship while at the pier ... and no prescription drug helped other than knocking them out.  Air Force will classify folks as unable to fly and USCG will classify as 'no sea duty' .... it happens and is real.  

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5 hours ago, rgmacm said:

 

While that is the difference between Tylenol and Tylenol PM, that doesn't mean it will treat motion sickness  (and I should have quoted Sitzmark in this too, but don't know how to quote 2 people.  🙂 )  

 

To All: 

Please note the difference in dimenhydrinate and diphenhydramine.  They are not the same ingredient.

Dimenhydrinate Med used for inner ear disturbances and motion sicknesses....usually only found in motion sickness remedies

Diphenhydramine:  TRUE antihistamine found in Tylenol PM, Benedryl and many other cold medications

 

(and while we're on the subject)  Meclizine:  This is the ingredient in Bonine...another option for treating motion sickness

 

Just note for those seeking information about motion sickness remedies that dimenhydrinate and diphenhydramine are NOT interchangeable...totally different medications.  

Happy Cruising All!!!  

According to WebMD: Diphenhydramine is an antihistamine used to relieve symptoms of allergy, hay fever, and the common cold.  These symptoms include rash, itching, water eyes, itch eyes/nose/throat, cough, runny nose and sneezing. It is also used to threat nausea, vomiting, and dizziness caused by motion sickness  Diphenhydramine can also be used to help you relax and fall asleep.

   

According to Wikipedia:  Diphenhydramine is the primary constituent of dimenhydrinate and dictates the primary effect. The main difference relative to pure diphenhydramine is a lower potency due to being combined with 8-chlorotheophylline. By weight, dimenhydrinate is between 53% to 55.5% diphenhydramine.   8-Chlorotheophylline was added in order to counteract drowsiness. 

 

Also: for what is worth:  

https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-difference-between-dramamine-and-benadryl

 

Note:  Dramamine active ingredient is Dimenhydrinate 50mg 

benadryl active ingredient is diphenhydramine 25 mg

 

Basically, Tylenol added an antihistamine to make you drowsy and called it Tylenol PM.

 

IOW, Tylenol PM does include an effective motion sickness remedy.   

Edited by RocketMan275

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4 hours ago, RocketMan275 said:

According to WebMD: Diphenhydramine is an antihistamine used to relieve symptoms of allergy, hay fever, and the common cold.  These symptoms include rash, itching, water eyes, itch eyes/nose/throat, cough, runny nose and sneezing. It is also used to threat nausea, vomiting, and dizziness caused by motion sickness  Diphenhydramine can also be used to help you relax and fall asleep.

   

According to Wikipedia:  Diphenhydramine is the primary constituent of dimenhydrinate and dictates the primary effect. The main difference relative to pure diphenhydramine is a lower potency due to being combined with 8-chlorotheophylline. By weight, dimenhydrinate is between 53% to 55.5% diphenhydramine.   8-Chlorotheophylline was added in order to counteract drowsiness. 

 

Also: for what is worth:  

https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-difference-between-dramamine-and-benadryl

 

Note:  Dramamine active ingredient is Dimenhydrinate 50mg 

benadryl active ingredient is diphenhydramine 25 mg

 

Basically, Tylenol added an antihistamine to make you drowsy and called it Tylenol PM.

 

IOW, Tylenol PM does include an effective motion sickness remedy.   

 

I actually am not at all interested in arguing this....seems a bit silly..... 😉  For that reason, I considered just ignoring it...  I returned because it's important that accurate information be put out there.       

 

Yes, Dramamine is Dimenhydrinate &  Benedryl is Diphenhydramine  🙂   (I believe that's exactly what I said...)  ha!  and Tylenol PM has the diphenhydramine.... but beyond that....

 

You quoted WebMD...Wikipedia...and Quora.  {{:classic_huh:}}   

In addition to the questionable reliability factor in that, (hmmm)   it should be noted that the Quora article you linked was actually disputed in the comments....repeatedly.    (I was glad to see this challenged as so often inaccurate information on those sources is not disputed...)     

 

Concerning the information in MY post,  I in no way, doubt my sources...or my information.  I am confident of the accuracy there and will stand firmly by my statements.  Its purpose was to help other cruisers. I hope it did that.

 

However, I would encourage anyone to confirm it all with their doctor....or nurse....or pharmacist.  Any of those individuals can detail these medications...and the conditions/problems they solve.  🙂 

 

Have a Great Day!!

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17 hours ago, payitforward said:

Odds are those other vacations require flights, vehicle rides, etc. If one gets motion sick, they are just as likely go get sick on those trips. Then, there's also the fact that cruising provides a better value than most land vacations. Finally, there's the fact that I have a chronic illness. Cruising offers me a vacation where I only have to pack/unpack once, and I get to see multiple destinations while my bedroom travels with me. This allows me the option to rest whenever I need to. While YOU may not see the value in having to take something for motion sickness, it is the perfect option for ME.

Flight and car rides are of a specific comparatively short duration.  The rest of the time the traveller is on land.  The risk of motion sickness meanwhile is constant on a cruise ship and could happen anytime.   

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39 minutes ago, K32682 said:

Flight and car rides are of a specific comparatively short duration.  The rest of the time the traveller is on land.  The risk of motion sickness meanwhile is constant on a cruise ship and could happen anytime.   

 

I'm just glad I've always ignored negative predictions like this, or I wouldn't have 16 cruises of wonderful memories. I was also really motion sick on the very long Road To Hanna Tour in Hawaii, but was SOOO worth it. There won't be any staying home, or missing incredible opportunities out of fear for me!

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