Porky55 Posted November 29, 2020 #1 Share Posted November 29, 2020 An interview on Sky with CLIA - https://www.facebook.com/SkyNewsAustralia/videos/190528759331185 Looks promising 🙏 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
By The Bay Posted November 29, 2020 #2 Share Posted November 29, 2020 It all hinges on when Australia opens its borders to International travel. Even for coastal cruising in Australia will require overseas crew to be allowed in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiliburn Posted November 29, 2020 #3 Share Posted November 29, 2020 21 minutes ago, By The Bay said: It all hinges on when Australia opens its borders to International travel. Even for coastal cruising in Australia will require overseas crew to be allowed in. They are allowing international students and aircrew in so why not ship crew. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MicCanberra Posted November 29, 2020 #4 Share Posted November 29, 2020 I am hopeful the government sees it as vital as we do by next March. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
By The Bay Posted November 29, 2020 #5 Share Posted November 29, 2020 1 hour ago, Chiliburn said: They are allowing international students and aircrew in so why not ship crew. Indeed, why not allow ship crews back into Australia. It just requires the Government to not be bias against cruise ships, after what happened with the Ruby incident. We will just have to wait and see what develops.🤞 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porky55 Posted November 29, 2020 Author #6 Share Posted November 29, 2020 1 hour ago, By The Bay said: It all hinges on when Australia opens its borders to International travel. Even for coastal cruising in Australia will require overseas crew to be allowed in. This was discussed in the interview - crew that comes from overseas has to go through quarantine (on ship) as required. Logistics obviously involved but personally the fact that this chap has been talking to Aus authorities is a huge plus for starters, don’t you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
By The Bay Posted November 29, 2020 #7 Share Posted November 29, 2020 1 minute ago, Porky55 said: This was discussed in the interview - crew that comes from overseas has to go through quarantine (on ship) as required. Logistics obviously involved but personally the fact that this chap has been talking to Aus authorities is a huge plus for starters, don’t you think? I have not read or heard anything positive from State or Federal authorities, quite the contrary. This was reported. "Australia’s international borders closed in March, with Health Minister Greg Hunt announcing the ‘biosecurity emergency period’ which enables the Federal Government to place restrictions on overseas flights and cruise ships, to stick around until at least December 2021." An this. “International travel including both tourists and international students is assumed to remain largely closed off until late next year and then gradually return over time. And a vaccine, to be available around the end of 2021 is one of the assumptions in the budget," Treasurer Josh Frydenberg has said in his post-budget speech today. Not a very rosy picture. 😒 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiliburn Posted November 29, 2020 #8 Share Posted November 29, 2020 5 minutes ago, Porky55 said: This was discussed in the interview - crew that comes from overseas has to go through quarantine (on ship) as required. Logistics obviously involved but personally the fact that this chap has been talking to Aus authorities is a huge plus for starters, don’t you think? That’s right it’s good there’s interaction between the cruise lines and the government. After listening to a interview on ABC radio with the head of the international cruise representative. It sounded like they are pretty well engaged with negotiations. He put a date of February that we could see a start of trials. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
By The Bay Posted November 29, 2020 #9 Share Posted November 29, 2020 It is CLIA's position to put forward a rosy picture, regarding the resumption of cruising. Wishing to return to cruising does not make it happen. We all want to get back on the open seas as soon as possible. However, until the Government is onboard, we will not be cruising in February.😒 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiliburn Posted November 29, 2020 #10 Share Posted November 29, 2020 8 minutes ago, By The Bay said: I have not read or heard anything positive from State or Federal authorities, quite the contrary. This was reported. "Australia’s international borders closed in March, with Health Minister Greg Hunt announcing the ‘biosecurity emergency period’ which enables the Federal Government to place restrictions on overseas flights and cruise ships, to stick around until at least December 2021." An this. “International travel including both tourists and international students is assumed to remain largely closed off until late next year and then gradually return over time. And a vaccine, to be available around the end of 2021 is one of the assumptions in the budget," Treasurer Josh Frydenberg has said in his post-budget speech today. Not a very rosy picture. 😒 https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-11-29/first-charter-flight-international-student-darwin-pilot-program/12928626 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
By The Bay Posted November 29, 2020 #11 Share Posted November 29, 2020 1 minute ago, Chiliburn said: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-11-29/first-charter-flight-international-student-darwin-pilot-program/12928626 A positive move for the struggling University sector. I don't see the struggling cruising sector getting similar treatment.😒 I hope I am wrong.🤞 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiliburn Posted November 29, 2020 #12 Share Posted November 29, 2020 11 minutes ago, By The Bay said: A positive move for the struggling University sector. I don't see the struggling cruising sector getting similar treatment.😒 I hope I am wrong.🤞 No one is talking about resuming cruises as we knew it . The first step will be trials as Singapore is doing now . Two ships in Singapore are hopefully setting the standard as we speak. Possibly a ship or two here ,early to mid next year doing trials. Not paid or revenue cruises,just trials. Working with authorities . Royal Caribbean has asked for volunteers and I did and I know a few people who have volunteered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
By The Bay Posted November 29, 2020 #13 Share Posted November 29, 2020 I just listened on the Today show to Senator Simon Birmingham, the Minister for Trade, Tourism and Investment on this link. Skip to 3:40 to here him talk about possible cruising restarting. In summery, International cruising is a long way off, however domestic cruising is being discussed but no date mention for restart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSWP Posted November 29, 2020 #14 Share Posted November 29, 2020 All on the media this morning, masks, social distancing, no buffets? No thanks. They will have to have 4 sittings per session @ breakfast, lunch and dinner in the MDR to feed everybody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porky55 Posted November 29, 2020 Author #15 Share Posted November 29, 2020 (edited) 47 minutes ago, Chiliburn said: That’s right it’s good there’s interaction between the cruise lines and the government. After listening to a interview on ABC radio with the head of the international cruise representative. It sounded like they are pretty well engaged with negotiations. He put a date of February that we could see a start of trials. Well, it seems both ABC and SKY agree on the fact that “something” regarding domestic cruising restart is being discussed between the CLIA and our government. If these two media organisations agree on something - it is almost a certainty 🙄 I for one am optimistic - Edited November 29, 2020 by Porky55 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porky55 Posted November 29, 2020 Author #16 Share Posted November 29, 2020 (edited) 29 minutes ago, By The Bay said: I just listened on the Today show to Senator Simon Birmingham, the Minister for Trade, Tourism and Investment on this link. Skip to 3:40 to here him talk about possible cruising restarting. In summery, International cruising is a long way off, however domestic cruising is being discussed but no date mention for restart. 🙄 the link didn’t work ....... at first, but got it going 👍 I actually thought he was quite upbeat about cruising restarting - don’t care about cruising in the Med or Carribean - round Aus is just fine with me. And for domestic cruising he said they are discussing it and things Could happen. So, I continue to remain confident 😆 Edited November 29, 2020 by Porky55 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
getting older slowly Posted November 29, 2020 #17 Share Posted November 29, 2020 8 minutes ago, NSWP said: All on the media this morning, masks, social distancing, no buffets? No thanks. They will have to have 4 sittings per session @ breakfast, lunch and dinner in the MDR to feed everybody. Agreed....... also Les I go on a cruise to dine...... not fed.....lol on the flip side 1000's of people on the beach is OK ?? It make you wonder if the order of things is being run by watching a pin ball machine.... Don Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell21 Posted November 29, 2020 #18 Share Posted November 29, 2020 I reckon I'm as keen as anyone to get back to cruising, but at 76 there are two things I insist on before I will go again. Number 1 is a decent vaccine, and the other is no masks! I'll be damned if I will pay decent money for a holiday and have to mimic a muzzled dog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
getting older slowly Posted November 29, 2020 #19 Share Posted November 29, 2020 5 minutes ago, Porky55 said: 🙄 the link doesn’t work ........ It work on Chrome porky55 it is a video..... Don 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
By The Bay Posted November 29, 2020 #20 Share Posted November 29, 2020 5 minutes ago, Porky55 said: 🙄 the link doesn’t work ........ I just checked it using Firefox and it worked for me. 🤔 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiliburn Posted November 29, 2020 #21 Share Posted November 29, 2020 16 minutes ago, NSWP said: All on the media this morning, masks, social distancing, no buffets? No thanks. They will have to have 4 sittings per session @ breakfast, lunch and dinner in the MDR to feed everybody. 3 minutes ago, getting older slowly said: Agreed....... also Les I go on a cruise to dine...... not fed.....lol on the flip side 1000's of people on the beach is OK ?? It make you wonder if the order of things is being run by watching a pin ball machine.... Don Wouldn’t you like to be on the test cruises. Just like a lab rat. LOL Being followed around by people in white coats ,prodded and poked. Apparently the white coats are going to get me drunk and see if I follow the social distancing rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porky55 Posted November 29, 2020 Author #22 Share Posted November 29, 2020 (edited) 26 minutes ago, NSWP said: All on the media this morning, masks, social distancing, no buffets? No thanks. They will have to have 4 sittings per session @ breakfast, lunch and dinner in the MDR to feed everybody. Haha - no doubt it will be different But as it should be - there are people much smarter than me working this out. For things to go ahead after 2020, we will need to accept change to travel. Edited November 29, 2020 by Porky55 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSWP Posted November 29, 2020 #23 Share Posted November 29, 2020 The Trade Minister - Simon Birmingham said this morning..'The cruise ships will be anchored for some time. Still a lot of work to do.' Sounds ominous. It is the government calling the shots not the industry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare OzKiwiJJ Posted November 29, 2020 #24 Share Posted November 29, 2020 It wouldn't bother me going on a test cruise as long as I'd been vaccinated and they provide the travel insurance cover. If Princess asked for volunteers for a ship like Coral or Sapphire I'd happily volunteer. Wearing a mask while moving around the ship doesn't bother me. Once seated in a bar or MDR it can be removed, and hopefully that would apply to outdoor areas also. Many ships have space in their MDRs for all passengers with just the normal two sittings, although that may not apply to the newer and bigger builds. They may plan on a certain number of passengers using the buffet at all times. Anyway the buffet areas will still be there but the food service style may change. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiliburn Posted November 30, 2020 #25 Share Posted November 30, 2020 55 minutes ago, OzKiwiJJ said: It wouldn't bother me going on a test cruise as long as I'd been vaccinated and they provide the travel insurance cover. If Princess asked for volunteers for a ship like Coral or Sapphire I'd happily volunteer. Wearing a mask while moving around the ship doesn't bother me. Once seated in a bar or MDR it can be removed, and hopefully that would apply to outdoor areas also. Many ships have space in their MDRs for all passengers with just the normal two sittings, although that may not apply to the newer and bigger builds. They may plan on a certain number of passengers using the buffet at all times. Anyway the buffet areas will still be there but the food service style may change. I bet if Royal called a couple of you Princess folk for a free couple of nights you would say yes. Quantam of the seas has finished its trials today and the first Revenue cruise is tomorrow . Singapore this morning. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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