New to Oceania: Take OBC or Excursions

[Psoque]

8 hours ago, LHT28 said:

 

Have  you booked  any cruises cruises out of Miami  or other US ports?

 

 

I've looked at a variety of itineraries.  It is possible (and I am not sure) that Oceania might not give you back all of the cost of "free" airfare as "credits" if you first agree to pay for it and ask for it back.  But the actual real cost of "real" airfare is extremely easy to calculate, and they are consistent across all cabin categories on a given itinerary.  For example, that cost is approximately $1,100 per person for the Barcelona--to-Istanbul cruise in Nov. of 2023.  Obviously, the true cost of this "free" airfare is even higher if you need to pay the $175 per person deviation fee, $99/person/each way "non-gateway" fee, etc.

[Flatbush Flyer]

8 hours ago, mauibabes said:

Anytime we have flown within the US, the Air Credit has been $300-400. To Europe has been about $700, South America in January was $700 and from the West Coast to Asia, it has also been about $700. These are B4 Covid numbers. Again, JMHO and experience.
We always ask our O Rep and run our numbers and then decide how to get the most bang for our buck since we don’t have Miles nor $$ for Business or First Class. When going to Europe, Premium Economy has normally been a good Value. Never take anything at face value, what is Reagan’s line, Trust But Verify!  
 

Mauibabes

FWIW: we’re onboard Marina now and are doing two simultaneous “extended journeys”: BCN-FCO and FCO-MIA. So, even though we only have one outbound SFO-FRA-BCN flight itinerary and one return MIA-SFO flight itinerary, we get air credit on each extended journey: That’s $900 per person total air credit for the outbound and $800 per person total air credit for the inbound. Taken together, that’s a $1700 per person air credit that would easily cover a multi-city coach fare.

We take that credit and apply it to DIY bizclass tix on our preferred carrier and routing. 

[Flatbush Flyer]

2 hours ago, Psoque said:

I've looked at a variety of itineraries.  It is possible (and I am not sure) that Oceania might not give you back all of the cost of "free" airfare as "credits" if you first agree to pay for it and ask for it back.

Read your T&Cs and Ticket Contract.

[LHT28]

9 hours ago, mauibabes said:

Anytime we have flown within the US, the Air Credit has been $300-400.

 

Yes 

reality  is  usually $300 or 400.

 

[Psoque]

3 hours ago, Flatbush Flyer said:

Read your T&Cs and Ticket Contract.

I made this comment, not because I was unsure about the T&C/contract, but because people here are a bit confused about three different things:

A -the COST of “free airfare”. This is how much you are actually paying Oceania for airfare when you buy the cruise with “free” airfare.

B-what Oceania will “credit” you when you decide to do make your own flight arrangements.  I hope that it would be identical to A, but I haven’t looked into it and I don’t want to waste my time reading T&C and the contract.

C-the “true cost” of having Oceania take care of your flights “for free.”. That is the cost of “free airfare” or A, plus various fees (to fly from/to “non-gateway airports,” fly in/out before/after the embarkation/disembarkation days, etc.) or the cost of positioning yourself to the “gateway airport.”.  Also this cost may include the cost of recovering from potential service disruption while flying on a consolidator ticket….that also comes with a real dollar cost in some cases.

 

Obviously, not all of you are interested in thinking about it and prefers that have your TA decide everything for you.  That’s fine.  It’s just that it is entirely possible to calculate the real cost of “free airfare” Oceanina is offering, and the formula is fairly simple, as long as you get past the fog of misleading information Oceania puts out in their marketing material.

[LHT28]

Just take cruise only fare  no overthinking involved

[ORV]

13 minutes ago, Psoque said:

I made this comment, not because I was unsure about the T&C/contract, but because people here are a bit confused about three different things:

A -the COST of “free airfare”. This is how much you are actually paying Oceania for airfare when you buy the cruise with “free” airfare.

B-what Oceania will “credit” you when you decide to do make your own flight arrangements.  I hope that it would be identical to A, but I haven’t looked into it and I don’t want to waste my time reading T&C and the contract.

C-the “true cost” of having Oceania take care of your flights “for free.”. That is the cost of “free airfare” or A, plus various fees (to fly from/to “non-gateway airports,” fly in/out before/after the embarkation/disembarkation days, etc.) or the cost of positioning yourself to the “gateway airport.”.  Also this cost may include the cost of recovering from potential service disruption while flying on a consolidator ticket….that also comes with a real dollar cost in some cases.

 

Obviously, not all of you are interested in thinking about it and prefers that have your TA decide everything for you.  That’s fine.  It’s just that it is entirely possible to calculate the real cost of “free airfare” Oceanina is offering, and the formula is fairly simple, as long as you get past the fog of misleading information Oceania puts out in their marketing material.

FWIW, you're not really telling those of us that have been cruising with Oceania for years anything we didn't already know. It's nice that you've discovered some the intricacies of the way their system works and hopefully it will help others that are new to Oceania. Just one caveat, keep in mind what I've already told you. Things can change, especially the air credit as cruises get closer to the sail date. You have to take each cruise on a case by case basis. 

 

PS, it's all pretty simple for anyone that cares to do the math. Also once you realize that a good Oceania experienced TA can do a whole lot more than decide things for you, then you'll really open up a new world. Lots of people never get that and continue to cut off their nose to spite their face. 

[MEFIowa]

14 minutes ago, ORV said:

... Also once you realize that a good Oceania experienced TA can do a whole lot more than decide things for you, then you'll really open up a new world. Lots of people never get that and continue to cut off their nose to spite their face. 

Though it is odd that those pushing TAs here NEVER say how much they spend annually thru their TA or have spent in toto over the years thru their TA. In the real world, TANSTASFL.

 

So I am SURE that if you spend many thousands of dollars annually and tens of thousands of dollars total over time with the same TA, that TA will "give" you something. BUT, if all I do is one cruise a year that I book at the discounted sale price (and mainly in less expensive G-B cabins) and make my own excursions and travel arrangements, there is NOT TA on the planet who would do anything seriously special for me.

[Psoque]

I posted this because:

 

At the time of booking (regardless of how close the cruise is), as long as Oceania publishes “O Life with Air” and “Cruise Only” prices for each category, the cost of each component is easily calculated.  

 

And I just showed how it can be done.  I think it is very easy and not all that complicated.  It just seems complicated because how the numbers are presented by Oceania is confusing.

 

I had to understand two important factors before I figured this out.

 

1.  There is no such thing as “free airfare.” There is a real and simply calculable cost of airfare.

2.  If you elect to receive OBC, you are basically getting the money you already gave Oceania back as an inflexible “funny money” that is only usable on that cruise.  And that dollar amount is the amount you paid when you elected to take advantage of OLife.  The OBC is not really a “perk.”. 

 

When a customer says “it is too complicated” or it is different on different cruises, that customer is either totally confused and/or helping Oceania with their mysterious marketing practice.  The formula is always the same as long as we are talking about coach airfare.

Edited October 28, 2022 by Psoque

[ORV]

32 minutes ago, Psoque said:

The formula is always the same as long as we are talking about coach airfare.

For the most part I agree with what you are saying there in your post, but keep in mind if you are on a cruise that departs on Apr 15th 2023, your air credit might be more on Nov 15th 2022 than it would be on Jan 15th 2023. Or it might be exactly the same. 

 

Just because it was a certain amount once doesn't mean that it will be the same in the future. But your formula for figuring it out shouldn't change. 

[ORV]

41 minutes ago, MEFIowa said:

Though it is odd that those pushing TAs here NEVER say how much they spend annually thru their TA or have spent in toto over the years thru their TA. In the real world, TANSTASFL.

 

So I am SURE that if you spend many thousands of dollars annually and tens of thousands of dollars total over time with the same TA, that TA will "give" you something. BUT, if all I do is one cruise a year that I book at the discounted sale price (and mainly in less expensive G-B cabins) and make my own excursions and travel arrangements, there is NOT TA on the planet who would do anything seriously special for me.

Just as you've been on this subject in the past, you are still wrong. Yes, even if you go on just one cruise a year you're still better using an Oceania experienced agent than booking directly through Oceania. 

 

True that you are not going to get the same perks that a high-volume traveler is going to, but anything is better than nothing. It seems some of you guys want to figure every angle to save every dollar you can on a cruise price, yet won't do one of the simplest things you could to save money and time. Go figure. 

[1985rz1]

50 minutes ago, MEFIowa said:

Though it is odd that those pushing TAs here NEVER say how much they spend annually thru their TA or have spent in toto over the years thru their TA. In the real world, TANSTASFL.

 

So I am SURE that if you spend many thousands of dollars annually and tens of thousands of dollars total over time with the same TA, that TA will "give" you something. BUT, if all I do is one cruise a year that I book at the discounted sale price (and mainly in less expensive G-B cabins) and make my own excursions and travel arrangements, there is NOT TA on the planet who would do anything seriously special for me.

It's not quite as dire as you envision.  We use an experienced Oceania TA and often recommend someone to use her.  She's not a large volume agency rep, so her perks are modest, but significant. She gives them the same discount whether it's a one shot deal or a super expensive cruise. 

 

What's the commercial tag line?  Try it, you will like it. 😉

Edited October 28, 2022 by 1985rz1

[Woofa]

I just wanted to throw Out our experience.  We have never taken a cruise before and never used a TA before either.  We wanted to take a relaxing cruise and we wanted a smaller ship, great food and a luxury ish experience without being able to afford the "luxury" lines.  After much research here and on the web in general, we decided to find a TA.  Maybe we are fortunate to live in the Dallas area but it was pretty obvious pretty quickly which ones in our area specialized in luxury cruising.  We believe we have found one of the "preferred" TA's.  We booked well in advance after a nice half hour in person meeting with our TA.  It is clear to us that we are not in the main demographic she works with.  Combination of a little younger (I am early 50's and my wife a little younger) and probably a lot less financially well off but we wanted to splurge after we became empty nesters and hope to continue at this level in the future if only a cruise every other year.  We were fortunate to book a B3 extended balcony for our cruise in January and our TA is giving us free gratuities and a check for 5% back before the cruise.  We chose cruise only and made our own flights and are fortunate to have friends in the Miami area for pre and post cruise stays and transportation.  I hope to post a full report including all costs afterwards but we figure our costs for a 10 day cruise should be in the $6,000 to $7,000 range max.  We are not big drinkers and plan to keep our bar bill below $200 including happy hours, captains party and bringing some liquor for consumption in our room. We are not planning on any excursions and as we are in the Caribbean just walking off the ship I to town at most ports.  We plan to eat most, if not all our meals on board.

So, for us, we believe the this is more than we would spend on a higher mainline cruise line but we think not absurdly so after all the extras you have to pay for. We believe Oceania fits this niche very nicely and will report back. We also believe our TA was not that hard to find and even if they do nothing else (hopefully we will have no hiccups) was worth using.

I hope this helps some of you.

Edited October 28, 2022 by Woofa

[LHT28]

1 hour ago, MEFIowa said:

Though it is odd that those pushing TAs here NEVER say how much they spend annually thru their TA or have spent in toto over the years thru their TA. In the real world, TANSTASFL.

 

So I am SURE that if you spend many thousands of dollars annually and tens of thousands of dollars total over time with the same TA, that TA will "give" you something. BUT, if all I do is one cruise a year that I book at the discounted sale price (and mainly in less expensive G-B cabins) and make my own excursions and travel arrangements, there is NOT TA on the planet who would do anything seriously special for me.

So If I say I spend $15000. a year  with my TA   what does that tell you??

We get PPG & an OBC  plus if there is  a problem she will help us get it resolved with management

We book A to C cabins 

I usually book my own air  or at least  tell the TA what flight I would like

Book our own ins & hotel

Still get the same service  from my TA

Not all Travel agents are created equal

JMO

 

[MEFIowa]

56 minutes ago, LHT28 said:

Not all Travel agents are created equal.... 

 

Or as Woofa said above: "After much research here and on the web in general, we decided to find a TA.  Maybe we are fortunate to live in the Dallas area but it was pretty obvious pretty quickly which ones in our area specialized in luxury cruising."

 

Those magical mystical TAs (are they unicorns or dragons?) who can't be named! I contacted a supposedly O-experienced TA, one from S. CA. I watched their videos online showing all the cabins. He's a tall guy. Maybe you can guess who they are? BUT when I tried to make serious arrangements, I didn't get offered anything special. And I doubt here in little old Des Moines, IA, we get the type "luxury cruising" specialists you might find in the massive D-FW area or greater LA or Chicago or NYC or Miami/FTL.

 

BUT I did book my own A4 on Riviera 12/21 for $2099 per from the Presidents' Day Sale in 2021. That identical ship, room, and itinerary (W. Caribbean) for early 2023 went up to $3999 per.

 

And since then I've used their periodic sales to book other cruises. The TAs don't create the O sale prices that anyone can access without a TA.

Edited October 28, 2022 by MEFIowa

[Psoque]

3 hours ago, ORV said:

For the most part I agree with what you are saying there in your post, but keep in mind if you are on a cruise that departs on Apr 15th 2023, your air credit might be more on Nov 15th 2022 than it would be on Jan 15th 2023. Or it might be exactly the same. 

 

Just because it was a certain amount once doesn't mean that it will be the same in the future. But your formula for figuring it out shouldn't change. 

Obviously, we have a very different idea about the difference between actual cost of "free air," which is specific to each itinerary, and the WAY to calculate that amount, which is the same.  I think you are confusing the two greatly.  I NEVER said that the cost of "free air" is always the same across itinerary, or for that matter, it stays the same even for the same itiinerary...that's just crazy talk.  What I said is that, at the time of making any decision point to decide what add-on to purchase with Oceania, or for that matter whether a particular itinerary makes sense to you in terms of value vs. cost, there is a way to calculate the actual cost of each component of the total price, and that method is virtually the same for any itinerary at any given point in time.

 

And as soon as you buy the cruise, the cost of "free airfare" becomes fixed, as long as the cruise fare does not get re-priced.  And the math can be repeated at that juncture.

 

I have no idea why some of you are so irritated to read what is something every consumer of Oceania should know correctly.

 

And calling the cost of "free airfare" "credit" is bat crazy.  Basically, as a consumer, you can choose to pay Oceania to for them to book your airfare, or you choose not to do so and book yourself.  By calling it "credit," Oceania is reinforcing the false idea that airfare is "free."

Edited October 28, 2022 by Psoque

[1985rz1]

2 hours ago, MEFIowa said:

Or as Woofa said above: "After much research here and on the web in general, we decided to find a TA.  Maybe we are fortunate to live in the Dallas area but it was pretty obvious pretty quickly which ones in our area specialized in luxury cruising."

 

Those magical mystical TAs (are they unicorns or dragons?) who can't be named! I contacted a supposedly O-experienced TA, one from S. CA. I watched their videos online showing all the cabins. He's a tall guy. Maybe you can guess who they are? BUT when I tried to make serious arrangements, I didn't get offered anything special. And I doubt here in little old Des Moines, IA, we get the type "luxury cruising" specialists you might find in the massive D-FW area or greater LA or Chicago or NYC or Miami/FTL.

 

BUT I did book my own A4 on Riviera 12/21 for $2099 per from the Presidents' Day Sale in 2021. That identical ship, room, and itinerary (W. Caribbean) for early 2023 went up to $3999 per.

 

And since then I've used their periodic sales to book other cruises. The TAs don't create the O sale prices that anyone can access without a TA.

Sounds like you contacted a bum TA.  We live in Flagstaff and there are NO leisure cruise specialists in the area.  But I found one in another State that works for us by talking with other passengers on a small cruise line and asking who they used.  My specialist is not with a large travel agency, but is part of a small family run business, but is known as a dedicated Ocean specialist, a member of the Oceania Cruise Connoisseur's Club in the top X% .  I think many others on this board also use her or other in the agency.  Why I use her is not only the perks in OBC, rebate and/or gratuities, but also because she looks out for me, clues me into upcoming sales in advance, researches questions I ask, takes care of problems I experience, and gets back to me with in a day if not within hours of my contacting her.  And if I find a cruise I want in advance of sales or new offerings being open, she gets in line for me and pre-reserves the cruise so when it open, we're among the first in line. So yes, you can take advantage of any O sale yourself, but so can a good (magical ? 😉) TA, and also provide service and perks.  So on your next cruise on a premium cruise line, ask around, see who other folks use and recommend and what advantages they see to using TA.  Give it a try.

Edited October 28, 2022 by 1985rz1

[jonthomas]

We have used an amazing O rep to book all of our cruises. He makes sure everything is right. Then I use the 30 days to turn it over to an agent that will give me additional obcs and a rebate. I like this system as the O rep is very knowledgeable and always has our best interest. I email him and arrange a time when he can call and get all this done by phone. He usually preps it all just from the email and then holds for a week, while we make sure all is in order. He has told me many times that there is NO loss to him when I turn it over to an agent. 

[honumaui]

Hi Woofa. You have made a great choice. We have been on 32 cruises since 1990. This includes RCCL and HAL back when they were much smaller. Regent was our choice for 2 trips to Europe because of the business air and great tours. We also loved Windstar for the sails but no longer are up to flying to the islands.  We no longer plan to go to Europe again. Before covid we did an Alaska cruise tour on Oceania. It was fabulous. Now our next two cruises are booked on Oceania.  You will get Regent quality service and food. Their "tranquility" beds are heavenly .Relax and Enjoy!

[honumaui]

PS..watch for their 2 cat upgrade sales. We researched the cruises on their web site for the  labor day sale and called our TA who took care of the bookings. The day after the labor day sale the price went up $600 pp. We also prefer to do our own air. If you see one you like, you can put down a deposit which is fully refundable as long as you cancel 181 days ahead.

[mauibabes]

The discussion and experiences of the DIYers and TA users and the Combo travelers will go on forever but I had to share a recent experience and why our travel with a TA works for us. No names will be shared however. 
We recently completed a 5 Star tour with a luxury cruise line with a number of friends, not Oceania. It ended up being less than advertised in some key facets of the trip, but not all. The TA was on the tour and was in contact with the Tour company along the way. When we returned home, the TA immediately followed up with the company. Bottom line, all of our friends received a $1,000 cash refund per person and $1,500 per person in Travel Credit for a future trip.  That provided each couple with the equivalent of a $5,000 benefit. For the DIYer, that would not have happened, for the bulk booking agency who is not actively involved with their guests and just process bookings, this would not have happened.  We all go through a process with our travels that makes us comfortable and we pray that every travel experience turns out amazing but that is not reality because sometimes “stuff” happens. We all spend our money the way we see fit so go and enjoy your process. 
To me, there is very good reason to use a quality Travel Agency and Agent. JMHO 
Mauibabes

 

[Psoque]

38 minutes ago, mauibabes said:

The discussion and experiences of the DIYers and TA users and the Combo travelers will go on forever but I had to share a recent experience and why our travel with a TA works for us. No names will be shared however. 
We recently completed a 5 Star tour with a luxury cruise line with a number of friends, not Oceania. It ended up being less than advertised in some key facets of the trip, but not all. The TA was on the tour and was in contact with the Tour company along the way. When we returned home, the TA immediately followed up with the company. Bottom line, all of our friends received a $1,000 cash refund per person and $1,500 per person in Travel Credit for a future trip.  That provided each couple with the equivalent of a $5,000 benefit. For the DIYer, that would not have happened, for the bulk booking agency who is not actively involved with their guests and just process bookings, this would not have happened.  We all go through a process with our travels that makes us comfortable and we pray that every travel experience turns out amazing but that is not reality because sometimes “stuff” happens. We all spend our money the way we see fit so go and enjoy your process. 
To me, there is very good reason to use a quality Travel Agency and Agent. JMHO 
Mauibabes

 

I still say that whether you use a travel agent or not, every passenger should, ideally, know the actual breakdown of everything he/she is paying when booking a cruise.  I strongly sense a lot of hesitation/hostility from some of us here who likes to keep the cost breakdown somewhat of a esoteric mystery, and I have no idea why/how that is a good approach for one to be an astute consumer.

 

And yes, I always use a travel agent to book a cruise, but I typically typically book our flights because I have never had a travel agent find any flights that I could not find, especially in the past 20 years.

 

Obviously, if someone is unwilling/unable to even think about the cost/value of a cruise, but prefer their travel agent to just spoon feed all of that, or lack thereof, that's OK.  That's exactly what most cruise lines want their customers to be...blissfully unaware with a loose wallet.

[ORV]

2 hours ago, Psoque said:

I still say that whether you use a travel agent or not, every passenger should, ideally, know the actual breakdown of everything he/she is paying when booking a cruise.  I strongly sense a lot of hesitation/hostility from some of us here who likes to keep the cost breakdown somewhat of a esoteric mystery, and I have no idea why/how that is a good approach for one to be an astute consumer.

 

And yes, I always use a travel agent to book a cruise, but I typically typically book our flights because I have never had a travel agent find any flights that I could not find, especially in the past 20 years.

 

Obviously, if someone is unwilling/unable to even think about the cost/value of a cruise, but prefer their travel agent to just spoon feed all of that, or lack thereof, that's OK.  That's exactly what most cruise lines want their customers to be...blissfully unaware with a loose wallet.

I don't know why I do this, but I'll try, If you're referring to me, you couldn't be making more incorrect assumptions. I know exactly what each component of my cruise vacation costs are.  You might say this is not my first rodeo with Oceania, unlike some other posters here.  The only issue I've had is that you've posted a couple of things as normal policy that are not always the case, and when pointed out to you, you stubbornly seem to not accept that your conclusions might be wrong. If you stick around long enough, and book enough Oceania cruises, you'll find out that what's posted as policy, and what happens in real practice don't always align. There are many things, especially when it comes to Oceania Air becomes a "Let me find out"  

 

On the other hand yes, there are people that don't care and just want to know what the total is and when they're leaving. 

[Psoque]

1 hour ago, ORV said:

I don't know why I do this, but I'll try, If you're referring to me, you couldn't be making more incorrect assumptions. I know exactly what each component of my cruise vacation costs are.  You might say this is not my first rodeo with Oceania, unlike some other posters here.  The only issue I've had is that you've posted a couple of things as normal policy that are not always the case, and when pointed out to you, you stubbornly seem to not accept that your conclusions might be wrong. If you stick around long enough, and book enough Oceania cruises, you'll find out that what's posted as policy, and what happens in real practice don't always align. There are many things, especially when it comes to Oceania Air becomes a "Let me find out"  

 

On the other hand yes, there are people that don't care and just want to know what the total is and when they're leaving. 

If you actually say that you "know exactly what each component of my cruise vacation costs are," you must using some way to figure this out, since Oceania is not spelling it out on their website and brochures.  Then you say that the WAY to figure it out is never the same for each cruise, and you keep saying that the simple way that I outlined to do so is somehow "gone sideways."

 

However, you are utterly unable to explain what has gone sideways, other than to say that there is no way to figure these out.

 

Your statements are utterly conflicting, despite the fact that you have done many Oceania cruises.

 

I think the way I outlined should work for most Oceania itineraries with "free" economy airfare.  If you really think what I outlined is grossly inaccurate, please post your own version.

[Psoque]

Let me outline my formula again...making it even simpler....then I invite anybody to tell me a concrete example how this does not work.

 

Oceania cruise fare is made up of three components:

A-Cruise Fare

B-optional OLife add on

C-optional coach airfare (consolidator fare) add on

 

Oceania only shows on their website and brochure two types of fares:

 

"OLife Fare with Airfare" which is A+B+C

and

"Cruise Only Fare" which is A

 

Furthermore, some online agencies list other fares, including:

"Cruise with OLife Fare" which is A+B

 

How do we calculate A, B, and C?

 

A is self-explanatory...it is always available online or on brochures

 

B+C is just the difference between "OLife Fare with Airfare" and "Cruise Only Fare"

 

B can be calculated two ways:

-You can look at the OLife OBC amount (per person), which is typically the same as B, the cost of OLife add on.

-Or it can be calculated by looking up the "Cruise with OLife Fare" and subtracting A from it.

I have not seen an example of B different from the OLife OBC.

 

C, the cost of "free coach airfare" is calculated by subtracting B from B+C

 

Finally, to calculate the actual cost of "free airfare," other factors need to be considered:

 

1.  The standard "free airfare" is only from a select number of "gateway airports."  To fly from other airports, if that is even possible, requires $99 per person, per way (so $198 per person for a round trip or open jaw airfare) fee.

2.  The standard "free airfare" flies you in on the embarkation day, and flies you home on disembarkation day.  To change any of this, there is a $175 per person fee.

3.  If you choose to fly from the "gateway city" but you don't live in the "gateway city," there is a real cost of doing so, including the cost of transportation to the airport, possibly hotel stays before the flight to the cruise and after the flight from the cruise.

4.  Also of note:  the "free airfare" from Oceania are consolidator fares with various restrictions which may come in play when there is a service disruption.  This may add more $$ to your true cost.

 

So C, the cost of "free airfare" may not be the actual cost of your airfare for the cruise, and that true cost should be compared to the cost of booking flights on your own.

 

 

 

 

Edited October 29, 2022 by Psoque