Nieuw Amsterdam - Dry Dock

[regan3]

I saw on a post that Nieuw Amsterdam would be in dry dock December 2023. 

 

What typically improvements are made during dry dock?

 

Any chance Club Orange Dining room would be added?

[InTheWASide]

There's no space to add it to. On that class of ship Club Orange just has the special menus and kind of a pre-reserved area in the MDR so there's minimal to no wait.

[Heidi13]

She is only drydocking for a fortnight, completing the 3rd Special Survey. Not sufficient time for any major capital projects. In addition to the required regulatory inspections, expect painting and other maintenance.

[KAKcruiser]

I don't think the Nieuw Amsterdam has had a drydock in over five years.  We were on the ship almost a year ago and there seemed  to be a number of issues that needed to be fixed.

[CruiserBruce]

1 hour ago, KAKcruiser said:

I don't think the Nieuw Amsterdam has had a drydock in over five years.  We were on the ship almost a year ago and there seemed  to be a number of issues that needed to be fixed.

Other than Covid issues/delays, HAL gets their ships into drydock about every 30 months, exceeding the requirements. I am sure HAL has met its required every 5 year dry dock. If not, I am sure there are insurance, liability and regulatory issues.

 

Edit....the last drydock was late 2017.

[KAKcruiser]

So, are you agreeing with me?

[CruiserBruce]

13 minutes ago, KAKcruiser said:

So, are you agreeing with me?

Yes...adding in Covid issues.

[Heidi13]

3 hours ago, KAKcruiser said:

I don't think the Nieuw Amsterdam has had a drydock in over five years.  We were on the ship almost a year ago and there seemed  to be a number of issues that needed to be fixed.

 

Previous drydocking was December 2017, so she was due in December 2022. Most unusual for Class to provide a 12-month extension, any extensions are often up to 3-months.

[Heidi13]

2 hours ago, CruiserBruce said:

Other than Covid issues/delays, HAL gets their ships into drydock about every 30 months, exceeding the requirements. I am sure HAL has met its required every 5 year dry dock. If not, I am sure there are insurance, liability and regulatory issues.

 

Edit....the last drydock was late 2017.

 

Drydocking a ship every 30-months isn't exceeding the requirements, as SOLAS requirements are 2 drydockings every 5 yrs. Some newer tonnage, subject to Class approval may be approved for Extended Drydocking of up to 7.5 yrs, normally 5-yrs for pax vessels. However, they require In-Water Surveys (IWS) in lieu of the the mandatory drydocking.

[mwj]

NA had a short drydock in Feb 2020 to repair an azipod. This probably accounts for why it has been six years since the last full drydock.

Edited August 9, 2023 by mwj
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[Heidi13]

5 hours ago, mwj said:

NA had a short drydock in Feb 2020 to repair an azipod. This probably accounts for why it has been six years since the last full drydock.

 

Since the requirement is 2 ev 5 years, she would still be a year late. I've taken my ships for a few emergency dockings over the years and never received credit for delaying the next scheduled docking. Taking the ship in early for 1 docking doesn't automatically extend the next one. 

 

HAL must have requested an extension from Class, who may have considered the 2020 docking and in approving the request, will have issued a list of requirements/inspections with the "Condition of Class". I don't recall seeing a 12-month extension, as the extensions we received were normally a maximum of 3-months.

[regan3]

What "other maintenance" is typically performed?

[Heidi13]

15 minutes ago, regan3 said:

What "other maintenance" is typically performed?

 

The list is almost endless, as in addition to the ship's crew and shipyard personnel, the owner brings in numerous specialised contractors.

 

To focus on the areas accessible to pax:

 - Painting - the shipyard does the underwater and any areas being blasted back to near white metal. The crew will complete onboard maintenance scaling/repainting on the outer decks and touch up painting throughout the interior spaces. They may also refinish some taffrails, although that is usually ongoing.

 - Deck covering - general replacement and/or carpet and other flooring materials throughout the inside of the ship. Repairs to outer deck materials.

 - Pools & Hot-tubs - repairs, as required

 - Furniture - repairs to fabrics & padded materials. Renewing, as per scope of work

 - Cabins - electrical/plumbing/shipwright repairs & maintenance

 - Beds - some may be replaced

 - Cleaning, including the HVAC system

 

The entire scope of work will require many hundreds of pages.

[electro]

hopefully they will replace some of the extremely uncomfortable furniture in the lounges.

[Haljo1935]

Hey @Heidi13 appreciate the list of items potentially being addressed during a dry dock.

Slightly off topic question - we were on Eurodam April 29 - May 6 this year, just a couple weeks after she came out of dry dock. Would it be normal for balconies on pax cabins to look like they were in need of attention so soon? Is this something pax should report as a maintenance request?

[Heidi13]

6 hours ago, Haljo1935 said:

Hey @Heidi13 appreciate the list of items potentially being addressed during a dry dock.

Slightly off topic question - we were on Eurodam April 29 - May 6 this year, just a couple weeks after she came out of dry dock. Would it be normal for balconies on pax cabins to look like they were in need of attention so soon? Is this something pax should report as a maintenance request?

 

That's mostly light surface rust and staining. That can easily be addressed with onboard maintenance. I would expect the cabin stewards to submit work requests for the Seamen to address.

[RuthC]

11 hours ago, Haljo1935 said:

we were on Eurodam April 29 - May 6 this year, just a couple weeks after she came out of dry dock. Would it be normal for balconies on pax cabins to look like they were in need of attention so soon?

Absolutely normal. 
I was once in a balcony cabin that seemed to have a lot of rust. One day the crew came through and cleaned it all up nicely. Before a week was out, you would have thought it hadn't been painted in ages. 

All that salt water does a number on a ship. 

[maryland]

Does anyone know the dates for the dry dock in December 2023? I previously read that it was to have taken place in March/April 2023.

[OlsSalt]

Rust  and salt air is a part of ship travel.

 

That why we also get chronic complaints about "paint smells" on cruise ships too. It is a 24/7 battle, regardless of dry dock or one time fixes. Comes with the package. You can only add so many layers of paint over it, before it must be scraped down and start all over again.  

 

These are not bathtub toys. 

[dobiemom]

On 8/26/2023 at 8:06 AM, maryland said:

Does anyone know the dates for the dry dock in December 2023? I previously read that it was to have taken place in March/April 2023.

02 December 2023 – 16 December 2023

 

https://boards.cruisecritic.com/topic/2947742-july-2023-update-hal-dry-docks-charters-groups-onboard/