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Smart Attire for Men--Nice Jeans and Collared Pullover Sweater?

rj1227

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bluemarble

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4 minutes ago, Underwatr said:

The Daily Programme snipped posted upthread seems to disagree with you.

"Please note, non-ripped jeans are appropriate..."

 

That wording about non-ripped jeans is a bit hard to interpret within that snippet from the daily programme since it appears to be in its own paragraph there as a stand-alone topic. The wording about the dress code found in My Cunard is a bit different in that it mentions non-ripped jeans within the context of a separate paragraph discussing the designated casual venues. Here's the quote from My Cunard.

 

"Of course, if you prefer to spend your evenings in more relaxed attire, feel free to dress casually as you visit any of the following venues: Kings Court or Lido Buffet, Golden Lion, Casino, Carinthia Lounge, Winter Garden/Winter Lounge, and G32 or Yacht Club. Non-ripped jeans are appropriate, but please refrain from wearing shorts, sports attire, swimwear or sleeveless T-shirts outside of the gym, spa and deck spaces."

 

My interpretation is that non-ripped jeans are only considered appropriate in the designated casual venues. But as usual Cunard have managed to cloud the issue by formatting the wording about the dress code differently within the daily programmes. If you reach a different interpretation than I have, I can't really dispute that.

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rmsEtruria

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47 minutes ago, bluemarble said:

 

That wording about non-ripped jeans is a bit hard to interpret within that snippet from the daily programme since it appears to be in its own paragraph there as a stand-alone topic. The wording about the dress code found in My Cunard is a bit different in that it mentions non-ripped jeans within the context of a separate paragraph discussing the designated casual venues. Here's the quote from My Cunard.

 

"Of course, if you prefer to spend your evenings in more relaxed attire, feel free to dress casually as you visit any of the following venues: Kings Court or Lido Buffet, Golden Lion, Casino, Carinthia Lounge, Winter Garden/Winter Lounge, and G32 or Yacht Club. Non-ripped jeans are appropriate, but please refrain from wearing shorts, sports attire, swimwear or sleeveless T-shirts outside of the gym, spa and deck spaces."

 

My interpretation is that non-ripped jeans are only considered appropriate in the designated casual venues. But as usual Cunard have managed to cloud the issue by formatting the wording about the dress code differently within the daily programmes. If you reach a different interpretation than I have, I can't really dispute that.

Your interpretation is undoubtedly correct. The separate paragraph in the daily program is unfortunate, but does not change the context: the reference to non-ripped jeans still occurs in the same sentence as the ban on shorts, sports attire, etc. outside of the gym, spa, and deck spaces—and that ban specifically declares the items it mentions to be beyond the pale, i.e., as not passing even for relaxed clothing. It follows that non-ripped jeans can pass for relaxed clothing in the casual venues, but not for “smart attire.”

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Giles2000

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I agree jeans is not smart casual.  I took a course at SF State says you communicate by dress.  As a retired professional you will never see me dressed in jeans under any circumstances.  We belong to a yacht club in the SF bay.  If you check out the ladies attending the club casually, they will have on $1K designer jeans and correctly dressed with appropriate costly accessories.  Who needs to be kicked for their lazy behavior to be correctly attired for an event? Cunard has a dress code.  We book with Cunard specifically to make sure the cruisers stick to the formal dress code.  Book a cruise with them follow  the dress code to a T or seak out a more affordable casual dress code lines. 

 

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5 hours ago, Giles2000 said:

Hello

I agree jeans is not smart casual.  I took a course at SF State says you communicate by dress.  As a retired professional you will never see me dressed in jeans under any circumstances.  We belong to a yacht club in the SF bay.  If you check out the ladies attending the club casually, they will have on $1K designer jeans and correctly dressed with appropriate costly accessories.  Who needs to be kicked for their lazy behavior to be correctly attired for an event? Cunard has a dress code.  We book with Cunard specifically to make sure the cruisers stick to the formal dress code.  Book a cruise with them follow  the dress code to a T or seak out a more affordable casual dress code lines. 

 

V.

As a retired professional you will never see me dressed in jeans under any circumstances.  We belong to a yacht club in the SF bay.  If you check out the ladies attending the club casually, they will have on $1K designer jeans and correctly dressed with appropriate costly accessories. 

 

As a jeans wearer, I find your two opposite points of interest,

 

It doesn't matter how much one spends on clothes. A tall willowy person will look a million$$$ in a $$ outfit and others of a different stature might look a mess in a $$$$ outfit. Clothes suitable for the figure of the wearer is what it's all about.

 

I used to spend silly money on jeans until I realised I looked just the same in a pair a tenth or even a twentieth of the price. My wallet and my husband agreed with me!😀

 

We have dined with friends at an exclusive golf and country club in LA. I took an outfit with me especially to wear as the dress code had been sent to us and denim of any style, cut and colour, was in the 'what not to wear' when at the club, rules.

Not so on Cunard. Jeans can be worn during the day and I have worn white denim trousers for dinner in the past with beautiful, appropriate tops. Anyone would be hard pressed to know the fabric was denim unless up close and personal. As an aside, I looked better dressed than many of my fellow passengers.

 

The only time I  saw blue jeans being worn for dinner was when the code was relaxed and blue jeans were allowed and the sky didn't fall and no one passed out at the sight of non ripped blue denim being worn of an evening for dinner.

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6 hours ago, Giles2000 said:

Hello

I agree jeans is not smart casual.  I took a course at SF State says you communicate by dress.  As a retired professional you will never see me dressed in jeans under any circumstances.  We belong to a yacht club in the SF bay.  If you check out the ladies attending the club casually, they will have on $1K designer jeans and correctly dressed with appropriate costly accessories.  Who needs to be kicked for their lazy behavior to be correctly attired for an event? Cunard has a dress code.  We book with Cunard specifically to make sure the cruisers stick to the formal dress code.  Book a cruise with them follow  the dress code to a T or seak out a more affordable casual dress code lines. 

 

 Not sure how the cost of someone’s attire and accessories has any relevance. My enjoyment of the experience on Cunard  is not detracted from people wearing jeans during the day or evening irrespective of what they paid for them. If someone looks good in a £10 pair of  jeans from Primark and they are following the Cunard dress code, good luck to them. I was also unaware that Cunard’s dress code required a certain amount of spend to be considered acceptable. It is none of my business what someone has paid for their outfits not anyone else what I paid for mine. Not sure either, it’s for other guests to police the dress code. 

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exlondoner

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1 hour ago, Victoria2 said:

As a retired professional you will never see me dressed in jeans under any circumstances.  We belong to a yacht club in the SF bay.  If you check out the ladies attending the club casually, they will have on $1K designer jeans and correctly dressed with appropriate costly accessories. 

 

As a jeans wearer, I find your two opposite points of interest,

 

It doesn't matter how much one spends on clothes. A tall willowy person will look a million$$$ in a $$ outfit and others of a different stature might look a mess in a $$$$ outfit. Clothes suitable for the figure of the wearer is what it's all about.

 

I used to spend silly money on jeans until I realised I looked just the same in a pair a tenth or even a twentieth of the price. My wallet and my husband agreed with me!😀

 

We have dined with friends at an exclusive golf and country club in LA. I took an outfit with me especially to wear as the dress code had been sent to us and denim of any style, cut and colour, was in the 'what not to wear' when at the club, rules.

Not so on Cunard. Jeans can be worn during the day and I have worn white denim trousers for dinner in the past with beautiful, appropriate tops. Anyone would be hard pressed to know the fabric was denim unless up close and personal. As an aside, I looked better dressed than many of my fellow passengers.

 

The only time I  saw blue jeans being worn for dinner was when the code was relaxed and blue jeans were allowed and the sky didn't fall and no one passed out at the sight of non ripped blue denim being worn of an evening for dinner.

In any event, it is inevitable that one only sees what people are wearing on their bottom halves as they walk to the table, so mainly it isn’t noticed. The top halves however are visible throughout dinner, so it is unlikely a T- shirt on formal night would go unremarked upon.

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1 hour ago, exlondoner said:

In any event, it is inevitable that one only sees what people are wearing on their bottom halves as they walk to the table, so mainly it isn’t noticed. The top halves however are visible throughout dinner, so it is unlikely a T- shirt on formal night would go unremarked upon.

I have yet to see jeans and tees worn for a formal dinner onboard ship. In fact, I don't recall seeing a tee sitting down for dinner on a non formal occasion but then it might have been missed as I wouldn't be looking for one. Apart from when the dress code specifically mentioned jeans, I don't recall seeing obvious jeans in the restaurant either but again, I might have missed a pair.

 

The dress shop I go to calls the tops I buy, 'table top' tops. Beautiful tops seen to advantage when sitting down to dine and unless you change after dinner, the bottom half is 'on view' throughout the evening and that goes for formal and non formal evenings.

 

 

 

 

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Jeans can look smart sometimes but I too have never seen jeans on a formal night, I love seeing both men and women look nice and all spruced up,it's what makes Cunard special and a stand alone cruise line 😊

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On 12/3/2023 at 3:44 AM, Victoria2 said:

I have yet to see jeans and tees worn for a formal dinner onboard ship. In fact, I don't recall seeing a tee sitting down for dinner on a non formal occasion but then it might have been missed as I wouldn't be looking for one. Apart from when the dress code specifically mentioned jeans, I don't recall seeing obvious jeans in the restaurant either but again, I might have missed a pair.

 

The dress shop I go to calls the tops I buy, 'table top' tops. Beautiful tops seen to advantage when sitting down to dine and unless you change after dinner, the bottom half is 'on view' throughout the evening and that goes for formal and non formal evenings.

 

 

 

 

We need a picture or two of these ‘table top’ tops @Victoria2.

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Church on Sunday and I thought of all of our discussions about jeans. Our early church service is very low key. Jeans are common. But…a person wore a pair with lots of holes…and I thought about our discussions and quickly remembered it didn’t matter in this case…it didn’t matter.

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5 hours ago, techteach said:

Church on Sunday and I thought of all of our discussions about jeans. Our early church service is very low key. Jeans are common. But…a person wore a pair with lots of holes…and I thought about our discussions and quickly remembered it didn’t matter in this case…it didn’t matter.

Gives a whole new dimension to Holy jeans!

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19 minutes ago, BigMac1953 said:

Last night on QV was a Gala Night.

 

I spotted one man in the Grills lounge wearing Chinos, a checked open shirt and no jacket.

 

In the good old days, they would have been denied service.

Ah, the good old days. I remember them well.

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31 minutes ago, BigMac1953 said:

Last night on QV was a Gala Night.

 

I spotted one man in the Grills lounge wearing Chinos, a checked open shirt and no jacket.

 

In the good old days, they would have been denied service.

And there are recent accounts, which I naturally can’t find, of people being refused service for inappropriate dress, in, I think, the Chart Room, in fact may be on this very thread. In any case, inappropriate as the garb is, one out of a ship load is hardly the decline of civilisation. Do you know if they were allowed in to the restaurant?

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3 minutes ago, Victoria2 said:

Not sure how many Cunard trips you've taken since Covid/new dress codes but I have three since Covid and out of 2000 passengers, a small, very very small, minority might not be totally compliant so it's not the dark scenario some might try and paint because, and I will repeat

 

 let's face it, good news doesn't make waves [oops, sorry there 😀] whereas 'bad' news sells column space!!

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I’m interested to see next summer if Alaska pax and Cunard hold the same dress code standards as during our June TA. Or more importantly, if Cunard enforces stated dress code for Alaska. Does anyone have first hand experience of this? All our Cunard voyage experiences have been pre-Covid (even 2022 seemed dicey with Covid tests and masking). The dress code was easier for Cunard to explain and for us to follow pre-Covid. 
DW and I don’t want to lug around Gala night and (I still call it) semi-formal dress on a 10 night voyage to be surrounded on a ship of mixed dress compliance. 
However, as @Victoria2stated, I’ve seen 99% compliance this summer. 

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