Emperor Norton Posted June 22, 2017 #1 Share Posted June 22, 2017 In theory if everything is on time a new luxury player intends to enter the market with ships carrying only slightly more passengers than Seabourns little sisters did. Which cruise line is deciding to enter a size category Seabourn abandoned? One that isn't a cruise line. Yet. Ritz Carton. Information Here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JVNYC Posted June 22, 2017 #2 Share Posted June 22, 2017 These new RC ships look remarkable and stunning. I am beyond interested! We love the brand and I can only imagine that they will excel. Can't wait for these! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marazul Posted June 22, 2017 #3 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Seabourn may have got out of the smaller ship business at the wrong time. Luxury lines seem to be going that way again - the Crystal Esprit and Ritz-Carlton are the latest examples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Norton Posted June 22, 2017 Author #4 Share Posted June 22, 2017 I'm looking forward to seeing what they end up doing. Pricing should be interesting. I like the idea of more competition in the luxury segment. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruising kirby Posted June 22, 2017 #5 Share Posted June 22, 2017 The exterior view looks quite similiar to the new Scenic Eclipse yacht - also another one to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Norton Posted June 22, 2017 Author #6 Share Posted June 22, 2017 The exterior view looks quite similiar to the new Scenic Eclipse yacht - also another one to watch. More to look forward to. [emoji1] Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare frantic36 Posted June 23, 2017 #7 Share Posted June 23, 2017 More to look forward to. [emoji1] Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Thanks for the link Emperor and I agree it is nice to have these small ships to look forward too. Julie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunprince Posted June 23, 2017 #8 Share Posted June 23, 2017 It looks wonderful. But I suspect we will need to get a lot of extra $$$ out of our wallets as anything quoted as "bespoke" is just another way of saying super expensive. Just look at Crystal yacht cruises which range from $700 to $1000 per person per day. That's equates to a pretty nice land vacation at that rate. Sent from my iPad using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Norton Posted June 23, 2017 Author #9 Share Posted June 23, 2017 It looks wonderful. But I suspect we will need to get a lot of extra $$$ out of our wallets as anything quoted as "bespoke" is just another way of saying super expensive. Just look at Crystal yacht cruises which range from $700 to $1000 per person per day. That's equates to a pretty nice land vacation at that rate. Sent from my iPad using Forums That'd be a very nice land vacation. Now if I could just find some place on land that I could stay were I would be willing to pay that per day without changing scenery. They'd need to have an amazing staff, amazing food and some kind of super extras:confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auldlassie Posted July 7, 2017 #10 Share Posted July 7, 2017 Emperor Norton, I just wish there was a facility on here to upvote your last comment. Nail on head. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Sweethearts Posted July 8, 2017 #11 Share Posted July 8, 2017 The exterior view looks quite similiar to the new Scenic Eclipse yacht - also another one to watch. Speaking of which, here is a quote from "taxare" on the Regent message board: "The first sailing on the Eclipse is scheduled for August 31, 2018. The 114 suites range from 345 sq ft (12 of those) to 2600 sq ft with the majority between 365-430 sq ft. It is not clear from the brochure whether the balcony is included in the stated sq ft, but I'm guessing it is. As a rough cost comparison the October 8, 2017 Voyager Venice to Athens, 7 nights starts at $4099 cruise only. The Eclipse for 8 nights in April, 2019 starts at $6195." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2SailingNomads Posted July 8, 2017 #12 Share Posted July 8, 2017 (edited) This is the exact approach, strictly my opinion which I've typed in multiple posts - and sometimes was told it would not work by some know it all's, that Seabourn should have taken after selling the little sisters. But they went bigger and now there will be: Scenic; the 3 Expedition ships from Crystal; and 3 from the Ritz to occupy that niche. Will be interesting to see how the market turns out. We will have many more options over the next few years. Edited July 8, 2017 by 2SailingNomads Correct typo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marama Posted July 8, 2017 #13 Share Posted July 8, 2017 This is the exact approach, strictly my opinion which I've typed in multiple posts - and sometimes was told it would not work by some know it all's, that Seabourn should have taken after selling the little sisters. But they went bigger and now there will be: Scenic; the 3 Expedition ships from Crystal; and 3 from the Ritz to occupy that niche. Will be interesting to see how the market turns out. We will have many more options over the next few years. We have lost count of the times we have been told when complaining about the sale of the Triplets that smaller ships are no longer cost effective and 'bigger is the only way to go'. Bigger is not always better - for the customer, anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wripro Posted July 8, 2017 #14 Share Posted July 8, 2017 Speaking of which, here is a quote from "taxare" on the Regent message board: "The first sailing on the Eclipse is scheduled for August 31, 2018. The 114 suites range from 345 sq ft (12 of those) to 2600 sq ft with the majority between 365-430 sq ft. It is not clear from the brochure whether the balcony is included in the stated sq ft, but I'm guessing it is. As a rough cost comparison the October 8, 2017 Voyager Venice to Athens, 7 nights starts at $4099 cruise only. The Eclipse for 8 nights in April, 2019 starts at $6195." The Eclipse does include all shore excursions and not just the basic bus tours like Regent. though I still prefer private tours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marazul Posted July 10, 2017 #15 Share Posted July 10, 2017 We have lost count of the times we have been told when complaining about the sale of the Triplets that smaller ships are no longer cost effective and 'bigger is the only way to go'. Bigger is not always better - for the customer, anyway. Well, now it seems that "smaller is the way to go." http://www.cnbc.com/2017/07/07/vacations-of-the-1-percent-trends-from-luxury-travel-agents.html :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Keith1010 Posted July 11, 2017 #16 Share Posted July 11, 2017 The issue is can it be profitable. I hope it is but as I often say time will tell. Remember Seabourn was losing money until they consolidated operations under HAL so let's see how Ritz does with this. If they can make it successful for both the customer and for themselves then that is a win-win for everyone. Keith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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