Tony O Posted October 5, 2017 #1 Share Posted October 5, 2017 She is now along side pier at Baltimore GRANDEUR OF THE SEAS AND CHESAPEAKE CH LB3-CHESAPEAKE BAY ENTRANCE-MISLE 1101369 INCIDENT DTG: 050258Z OCT 17 INITIAL 052200Q - SEC.HR received notification that the Cruise Ship Grandeur of the Seas (VIN 9102978) allided with Chesapeake Channel Lighted Buoy 3 (LLNR 7045). The pilot stated he was turning into The Chesapeake Channel (buoys 3 and 4) and underestimated the turn and believes he struck buoy 3. SEC.HR notified IO and launched S.LC to locate the buoy. S.LC arrived O/S and could not locate the buoy. VBFB1 also searched the channel and surrounding area with side scan sonar with negres. Engineers onboard Grandeur of the Seas conducted inspection of the spaces and of the propulsion/steering gear, all gear operating normal. Pilot and 5 crew on the bridge were administered an alcohol test and will take a drug test upon arrival at Baltimore. Channel is open for traffic and next deep draft vessel is outbound at 1800L. Pilots and US Navy have been notified. Case Pends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It'sRC4ME Posted October 5, 2017 #2 Share Posted October 5, 2017 Oops! Am I right that a buoy, although huge and metal, is also a bouncy floating thing, so hopefully it just bounced off the hull and resumed its floating position, with little damage to either party? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarea Posted October 5, 2017 #3 Share Posted October 5, 2017 Oops! Am I right that a buoy' date=' although huge and metal, is also a bouncy floating thing, so hopefully it just bounced off the hull and resumed its floating position, with little damage to either party?[/quote']I read the report as saying they have not yet located the buoy that was struck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony O Posted October 5, 2017 Author #4 Share Posted October 5, 2017 The last message I received is : The Coast Guard helo has located buoy and they are in the process of retrieving it with assist vessels. Sent from my SM-G930V using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarea Posted October 5, 2017 #5 Share Posted October 5, 2017 The last message I received is :The Coast Guard helo has located buoy and they are in the process of retrieving it with assist vessels. Good to hear. I was thinking that a free-floating buoy would cause them to stop all traffic until they located it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenwick Posted October 5, 2017 #6 Share Posted October 5, 2017 Oh no! Hope Grandeur is okay. We sail on Oct 28. Any updates? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harpat0408 Posted October 5, 2017 #7 Share Posted October 5, 2017 Oh no, glad everyone is ok Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flipflop59 Posted October 5, 2017 #8 Share Posted October 5, 2017 Just got off the Grandeur this morning and this is the first I heard of this. Nothing noticeable or any delay once docked and cleared to leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longstockingpippi1 Posted October 5, 2017 #9 Share Posted October 5, 2017 Just got off this morning also, didn't notice anything unusual. Unlike that loud thud that we heard while at sea headed down to Bermuda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kowale Posted October 5, 2017 #10 Share Posted October 5, 2017 I read the report as saying they have not yet located the buoy that was struck. Not sure what type it was, but a lighted discus buoy can be up to 40 feet in diameter and 30 feet tall. :eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BillOh Posted October 5, 2017 #11 Share Posted October 5, 2017 Good thing they had a pilot on board. They might have missed and scored 0 points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt_BJ Posted October 5, 2017 #12 Share Posted October 5, 2017 (edited) Not sure what type it was, but a lighted discus buoy can be up to 40 feet in diameter and 30 feet tall. standard navigation buoy is not that big ... you're thinking of the weather buoys out in mid ocean (usually painted yellow) they are TALL out of the water tho, as what you don't see here is about 10 feet of underwater structure which is a ballast or counter weight to keep it upright nav buoys get hit quite routely .... they are held in place by a sinker and chain and not unusual for the chain to break if a ship hits and tries to pull it too far. The channel would not typically be closed in this situation, but a notice to mariners would be issued warning of the potential 'hazard to navigation'. Also not unusual for the thing to sink hence you see reference to a crew going out with sonar to try and locate. Sometime the buoy will just get 'dragged' and the sinker is pulled out of place. Here again a notice to mariners would go out as the buoy would be off station. They are $$ so CG likes to find 'em ..... large NOAA weather buoy there are smaller version too ..... Edited October 5, 2017 by Capt_BJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquahound Posted October 5, 2017 #13 Share Posted October 5, 2017 Oops! Am I right that a buoy' date=' although huge and metal, is also a bouncy floating thing, so hopefully it just bounced off the hull and resumed its floating position, with little damage to either party?[/quote'] Bouncy floating thing. I'm not sure that's the technical term, but sure. ;):D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merion_Mom Posted October 5, 2017 #14 Share Posted October 5, 2017 Not sure what type it was, but a lighted discus buoy can be up to 40 feet in diameter and 30 feet tall. standard navigation buoy is not that big ... you're thinking of the weather buoys out in mid ocean (usually painted yellow) they are TALL out of the water tho, as what you don't see here is about 10 feet of underwater structure which is a ballast or counter weight to keep it upright nav buoys get hit quite routely .... they are held in place by a sinker and chain and not unusual for the chain to break if a ship hits and tries to pull it too far. The channel would not typically be closed in this situation, but a notice to mariners would be issued warning of the potential 'hazard to navigation'. Also not unusual for the thing to sink hence you see reference to a crew going out with sonar to try and locate. Sometime the buoy will just get 'dragged' and the sinker is pulled out of place. Here again a notice to mariners would go out as the buoy would be off station. They are $$ so CG likes to find 'em ..... large NOAA weather buoy there are smaller version too ..... Thank you, Capt BJ. I love our CC experts! <3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merion_Mom Posted October 5, 2017 #15 Share Posted October 5, 2017 Bouncy floating thing. I'm not sure that's the technical term, but sure. ;):D Of COURSE that's the technical term! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It'sRC4ME Posted October 5, 2017 #16 Share Posted October 5, 2017 Bouncy floating thing. I'm not sure that's the technical term, but sure. ;):D Everything I know about buoys comes from the Dirty Jobs episode where Mike Rowe cleaned a buoy. It was VERY technical :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milwaukee Eight Posted October 5, 2017 #17 Share Posted October 5, 2017 Not sure what type it was, but a lighted discus buoy can be up to 40 feet in diameter and 30 feet tall. standard navigation buoy is not that big ... you're thinking of the weather buoys out in mid ocean (usually painted yellow) they are TALL out of the water tho, as what you don't see here is about 10 feet of underwater structure which is a ballast or counter weight to keep it upright nav buoys get hit quite routely .... they are held in place by a sinker and chain and not unusual for the chain to break if a ship hits and tries to pull it too far. The channel would not typically be closed in this situation, but a notice to mariners would be issued warning of the potential 'hazard to navigation'. Also not unusual for the thing to sink hence you see reference to a crew going out with sonar to try and locate. Sometime the buoy will just get 'dragged' and the sinker is pulled out of place. Here again a notice to mariners would go out as the buoy would be off station. They are $$ so CG likes to find 'em ..... large NOAA weather buoy there are smaller version too ..... The yellow weather buoy you show here, the big one, used to be about 110 miles offshore Port Canaveral back in the 90’s. Some really awesome fishing around that buoy. It kept breaking free and ended up around North Carolina until replaced with a much smaller one. Thanks for the old memories. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt_BJ Posted October 5, 2017 #18 Share Posted October 5, 2017 oh yea ..... dolphin/mahi REALLY liked to hang out in the shade of the disk on a sunny day. More than one I nosed up to one and had fish call. We'd land 100 pounds of Mahi in 30 minutes. Literally like shooting fish in a barrel . . . most of the 'big ones' are gone with much smaller ones in their place. Like everything, the electronics got smaller and the weather buoy did not need to support hundreds of pound of equipment anymore. A smaller 'weather package' means smaller buoy means lighter chain - and THAT'S a biggie as a deep water weather buoy can use a LOT of chain .... wanna see what one looks like 'right now'? http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=41009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milwaukee Eight Posted October 6, 2017 #19 Share Posted October 6, 2017 oh yea ..... dolphin/mahi REALLY liked to hang out in the shade of the disk on a sunny day. More than one I nosed up to one and had fish call. We'd land 100 pounds of Mahi in 30 minutes. Literally like shooting fish in a barrel . . . most of the 'big ones' are gone with much smaller ones in their place. Like everything, the electronics got smaller and the weather buoy did not need to support hundreds of pound of equipment anymore. A smaller 'weather package' means smaller buoy means lighter chain - and THAT'S a biggie as a deep water weather buoy can use a LOT of chain .... wanna see what one looks like 'right now'? http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=41009 41010 was the buoy we used to fish under and around. There were alway nice triple tail on the chain and early morning had a good yellowfin tuna run. Big ones. We would also drift baits at night for swordfish. Good days of fishing. I had my Master 100 gt Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
payitforward Posted October 6, 2017 #20 Share Posted October 6, 2017 Bouncy floating thing. I'm not sure that's the technical term, but sure. ;):D Hahaha! :'):'):') I'm pretty sure "bouncy floating thing" could be used for the buoys here in our smaller lake to mark no-wake zones and show you the right of way. I'm guessing the ones for ships are a little bit bigger. Like the ones posted above. While I doubt any major damage was done, it could certainly "leave a mark." lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SherriZ366 Posted October 6, 2017 #21 Share Posted October 6, 2017 GR sailed this afternoon and is presently in the Chesapeake Bay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3CatsInMA Posted October 6, 2017 #22 Share Posted October 6, 2017 Good thing they had a pilot on board. They might have missed and scored 0 points. LOL I was thinking the same thing! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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