CruiseGal999 Posted February 2, 2018 #151 Share Posted February 2, 2018 Aren't they the same thing under different names? NO ... not even a little bit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggie cruises Posted February 2, 2018 #152 Share Posted February 2, 2018 Aren't they the same thing under different names? Absolutely not. Sent from my iPad using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruiseGal999 Posted February 2, 2018 #153 Share Posted February 2, 2018 No, it was based on 1000 paces (two steps) or a Roman legionnaire. Or about 5000 Roman feet. And how many kliks is that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ldubs Posted February 2, 2018 #154 Share Posted February 2, 2018 Exactly. What floridalover5623 claims - if true - isn't typical and is a completely different situation. Just like I might give my barber, who has been cutting my hair for almost two decades, a gift for Christmas because I know him well enough to have a pretty good idea what he likes, I certainly wouldn't give one to the random grocery store clerk who rings up my purchases. To argue that giving gifts is perfectly normal is dependent on the relationship ones has with the staff. To tell people that the staff will like what you give them is horribly poor advice for the majority of passengers who most likely only see the people serving them on one cruise and will never see them again, so have zero idea what they do and don't like or need. Floridalover5623, when giving advice, try to be more focused on the average reader's situation and not on yourself. Aw, I thinkFloridaLover was explaining her own approach and feelings on the matter. I may not agree but saw nothing wrong with how she responded. She does not deserve to be chided for her responses. Just sayin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
floridalover5623 Posted February 2, 2018 #155 Share Posted February 2, 2018 Number 4 on the new job orientation list: "learn as many names as you can - tips will follow." Sent from my iPhone using Forums Following your advice it would be better never to talk to any crew member and therefore never have to give anything, cash included. It is certainly possible to develop a friendship beyond the normal customer/staff relationship, particularly if you share the same culture as the person. But for the vast majority of passengers the best advise is skip trinkets and give cash. Of course cash is primary for compensation. No one would argue that point. They're not on the ship to meet people & make life long friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
floridalover5623 Posted February 2, 2018 #156 Share Posted February 2, 2018 Floridalover5623, when giving advice, try to be more focused on the average reader's situation and not on yourself. Of course everyone needs to judge for themselves if they want to compensate the crew with any extras. If you're just going to hand them a piece of garbage they'll smile & laugh behind your back. Find the right item that they can use & it'll be treasured & they'll share it with their friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myfuzzy Posted February 2, 2018 #157 Share Posted February 2, 2018 Exactly. What floridalover5623 claims - if true - isn't typical and is a completely different situation. Just like I might give my barber, who has been cutting my hair for almost two decades, a gift for Christmas because I know him well enough to have a pretty good idea what he likes, I certainly wouldn't give one to the random grocery store clerk who rings up my purchases. To argue that giving gifts is perfectly normal is dependent on the relationship ones has with the staff. To tell people that the staff will like what you give them is horribly poor advice for the majority of passengers who most likely only see the people serving them on one cruise and will never see them again, so have zero idea what they do and don't like or need. Floridalover5623, when giving advice, try to be more focused on the average reader's situation and not on yourself. As a former retail person, If I remember correctly, tips and gifts weren't allowed to be accepted. IF a customer slipped us a couple of bucks, it slipped right in the pocket, as for gifts, we had to report them to our supervisor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
floridalover5623 Posted February 2, 2018 #158 Share Posted February 2, 2018 As a former retail person, If I remember correctly, tips and gifts weren't allowed to be accepted. IF a customer slipped us a couple of bucks, it slipped right in the pocket, as for gifts, we had to report them to our supervisor I was never in a retail job so I wouldn't know what their policies were. All I can say is that on the ship my gifts are accepted without question & even shared with their immediate supervisors. Also - cash is pocketed (always out of sight or others) and never reported for the pool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare cruisemom42 Posted February 2, 2018 #159 Share Posted February 2, 2018 NO ... not even a little bit! Absolutely not. Sent from my iPad using Forums I was being facetious. But you have to admit ... thick, white-ish or grayish, gloppy stuff any way you look at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sloopsailor Posted February 2, 2018 #160 Share Posted February 2, 2018 (edited) I was never in a retail job so I wouldn't know what their policies were.All I can say is that on the ship my gifts are accepted without question & even shared with their immediate supervisors. Or so you are being told. Do you actually see that sharing while it happens? Also - cash is pocketed (always out of sight or others) and never reported for the pool. So, you fully support and are comfortable being complicit with the staff stealing from their fellow crew members? They are supposed to report those cash tips, but you apparently deliberately give them those tips in secret so they can hide them. That isn't very ethical. How would you feel if they were caught and fired? Not your problem? You know full well what those rules are (because you read these threads), otherwise you wouldn't go through the trouble of handing them those cash tips in secret. Edited February 2, 2018 by sloopsailor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flatbush Flyer Posted February 2, 2018 #161 Share Posted February 2, 2018 Following your advice it would be better never to talk to any crew member and therefore never have to give anything, cash included. Of course cash is primary for compensation. No one would argue that point. They're not on the ship to meet people & make life long friends. Your "never talk to crew" comment is nonsensical. I correspond with some past crew with whom I've shared "sea stories" and/or have provided requested professional advice regarding our mutual industry interests. No need to "give them a cookie." Rather, if non-officer staff have truly gone "above and beyond" in service, we augment the daily service charge with end-of-cruise cash. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elaine5715 Posted February 2, 2018 #162 Share Posted February 2, 2018 Pretty much every restaurant has regulars who hand out candy , know everyone by name and the staff know everything about them. The regulars are greeted warmly, are doted on and their gifts/candy is accepted with great enthusiasm. Behind the scenes, servers are playing "rock, paper, scissors" and loser gets the table. Service industry personnel who excel at their jobs make customers feel like friends but they know they are not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
floridalover5623 Posted February 2, 2018 #163 Share Posted February 2, 2018 Or so you are being told. Do you actually see that sharing while it happens? Absolutely. Their supervisor & other crew members have been present when I've given them "extra" gifts. So, you fully support and are comfortable being complicit with the staff stealing from their fellow crew members? They are supposed to report those cash tips, but you apparently deliberately give them those tips in secret so they can hide them. That isn't very ethical. How would you feel if they were caught and fired? Not your problem? You know full well what those rules are (because you read these threads), otherwise you wouldn't go through the trouble of handing them those cash tips in secret. I give them cash & it's up to them what the appropriate thing to do with it. The gift cannot be pooled so unless they physically lend it to other crew members. That's why giving a personal gift is so much better. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
floridalover5623 Posted February 2, 2018 #164 Share Posted February 2, 2018 Your "never talk to crew" comment is nonsensical. I correspond with some past crew with whom I've shared "sea stories" and/or have provided requested professional advice regarding our mutual industry interests. No need to "give them a cookie." Rather, if non-officer staff have truly gone "above and beyond" in service, we augment the daily service charge with end-of-cruise cash. Sent from my iPhone using Forums So you don't care to give them a "gift". That's fine. It's not required nor expected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggie cruises Posted February 2, 2018 #165 Share Posted February 2, 2018 I normally leave the dsc alone and give the room steward extra $$$ I'm thinking about keeping the extra $$$ because the last several cruises when I handed them cash they actually didn't seem to expect it. No they were not flustered or so overwhelmed that they couldn't speak....but their looks...and this was before they knew what was in the envelope ....was so matter of fact and so obvious that they didn't require anything more...so I'm done with extra $$$ Speaking with others later on at the airport I come to realize that 9 out of 10 of those pax didn't even consider giving extra cash. I'm joining that train if thought next cruise as well Of course I'm bring all my freebie gift with purchase lipsticks to hand out though lol Sent from my iPad using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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