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#81
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#82
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Originally posted by kohl57
Takes a lot of squinting (and it causes terrible wrinkles don't you know) to imagine attaching some bona fide British Royal connection to an American-owned, Italian-built, mostly Filipino-crewed, Bermuda-registered cruise ship. So she may be named "Queen Something or Rather" but surely the days of trotting out the Royal Family to christen Cunarders is long passed.

The obvious name is... QUEEN OF BERMUDA
Carnival is an Anglo-American company, so the ship is at least half British owned. Carnival UK is the British operating arm of the company and is in charge of Cunard. The ships officers are largely British and we don’t yet know where the ship will be registered - P&Os Britannia is UK registered so it’s not out of the question the new Cunarder will have Southampton on her stern when she enters service. But don’t let that get in the way of a good Brit bashing narrative will you
#83
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Oh please.... Cunard is no more "British" than Holland America Line is "Dutch" or Costa is "Italian". They are all ultimately owned, financed and managed in Miami USA by Arnold W. Donald (American). It has nothing to do with "bashing" any nationality merely stating the fact that nationality is meaningless with a global operation of 100 ships run by 10 "brands". In the end, it's still Carnival. Sadly, the day of true national lines are over. And that is to be mourned. But it's no reason to be bamboozled, either.
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#84
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At least HAL Ships are registered in the Netherlands.

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#85
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Originally posted by kohl57
Oh please.... Cunard is no more "British" than Holland America Line is "Dutch" or Costa is "Italian". They are all ultimately owned, financed and managed in Miami USA by Arnold W. Donald (American). It has nothing to do with "bashing" any nationality merely stating the fact that nationality is meaningless with a global operation of 100 ships run by 10 "brands". In the end, it's still Carnival. Sadly, the day of true national lines are over. And that is to be mourned. But it's no reason to be bamboozled, either.
But that’s just it, you don’t understand Carnival’s structure so you’re stating unintentionally false facts. Go back and read my post again. Carnival is a company, actually remarkably like Cunard-White Star - the assets are all owned partly by two separate companies, it’s just in this case they are both called ‘Carnival’. One of the two companies (Carnival plc; née P&O Princess cruises plc) is a British company headquartered in Southampton, with its own set of shareholders, it is co-equal and in no way subservient to Carnival corporation. Carnival UK is the British operating arm of Carnival, and is jointly owned by both the plc and the corporation. It is based in Southampton and has full operational control of Cunard.
#86
Isle of wight
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I have already named her. I have been calling her the Queen Anne Dam ever since the photos of how she will look were issued.😂
She is the HA koningsdam.
Hopefully with a nicer interior.
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#88
United Kingdom
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I like Queen Anne. I just hope she has a proper prom deck.
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#89
Bucks, UK
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Having seen the picture of the possible new ship for the first time here I would have to suggest the most appropriate name as being Queen Cleopatra, after all she did have her hand in the death of three of her siblings !
#90
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Oh my hopefully that does not happen- Queen Anne or Queen Alexandra killed her siblings... LOL. I still prefer Queen Alexandra- a bit closer to our century...!
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#91
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The really should " rethink" if they are not giving her a propper prommenade deck...! THAT WAS/ IS KIND OF A TRADEMARK FOR CUNARD!
The one responsible for planing a Cunard Ship without a propper prommenade along with deck chairs should be fired on the spot!
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#92
Kansas City
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Originally posted by ace2542
I can see the 4th ship doing transatlantic crossing during the time period of the Queen Mary 2 world cruise or maybe the Victoria doing transatlantic sailings and the new ship doing a world cruise with 3 ships doing world cruise.
After having been on winter North Atlantic crossings on the QM2 with Beaufort scale force 10 & 11 winds and the accompanying very high waves, there is no way that I would even consider doing this on either of the current baby Queens or a stretched Koningsdam design cruise ship. They may be fine for an occational relocation crossing, but certainly not for regularly scheduled NY-Southampton crossings with bad weather.
#93
Derbyshire, England
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Originally posted by BobBranst
After having been on winter North Atlantic crossings on the QM2 with Beaufort scale force 10 & 11 winds and the accompanying very high waves, there is no way that I would even consider doing this on either of the current baby Queens or a stretched Koningsdam design cruise ship. They may be fine for an occational relocation crossing, but certainly not for regularly scheduled NY-Southampton crossings with bad weather.
Hello, the only current Cunard ship capable of doing regular Trans-Atlantic crossings is Queen Mary 2; she as built to liner standards with a double hull and extra strong to be able to cross the Atlantic on a regular basis. Hence the huge expense in building her. All other cruise ships, including the current Cunard ships, would not be able to cope with the stains and stresses such regular crossing put on their superstructures. Assuming Cunard/Carnival Corporation go for yet another couple of cheaper 'cookie cutter' off the yard ships similar to QV & QE then IMO it is unlikely that we will see them on regular trans Atlantics.

IMO the new ships will be targeted at the super expanding Chinese/Far East markets & Australia.
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#94
Dartmouth, Devon.
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Joined Oct 2017
So P&O have named their new ship after a Scottish Island famed for its graveyard “Iona”, a curious choice me thinks - One wonders if the new Cunard ship will therefore be called RMS Brompton Cemetery where it’s founder is buried....


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#96
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Originally posted by DarrenBG
So P&O have named their new ship after a Scottish Island famed for its graveyard “Iona”, a curious choice me thinks
The island is rather more famous for the Abbey, and that's where most visitors go. It is one of the earliest Christian settlements in the UK.

John Smith, the former Labour leader is buried in a nondescript lair in the cemetery. Very easy to miss.

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#98
Iowa
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Joined Mar 2010
Originally posted by The Bullingdon Club
Stumbled across this on a list of new ships being built! The list looks accurate to me and I approve of the new name if correct... I wonder if Cunard are aware of this report?? Sorry can’t embed image so see attached file
Very interesting scoop. Thank for the heads up. I haven't heard of AMEM before, but their web site shows they are "Austrian Marine Equipment Manufacturers". They offer their document "AMEM Cruise Ships on Order 2016-2027" as a free download on their web site, so I figure providing this link to the full document here should be ok.

AMEM Cruise Ships on Order 2016-2027

And here is your attachment as an inline image showing the relevant page for direct viewing in a browser.



I have no way of judging the validity of this information, but it certainly is intriguing. Perhaps others here can weigh in as to whether this is just speculation or an authoritative source.
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Originally posted by kohl57
Oh please.... Cunard is no more "British" than Holland America Line is "Dutch" or Costa is "Italian". They are all ultimately owned, financed and managed in Miami USA by Arnold W. Donald (American). It has nothing to do with "bashing" any nationality merely stating the fact that nationality is meaningless with a global operation of 100 ships run by 10 "brands". In the end, it's still Carnival. Sadly, the day of true national lines are over. And that is to be mourned. But it's no reason to be bamboozled, either.
My impression is that Cunard is far more British than Holland America is Dutch. I don't doubt that all major decisions are made by Carnival in the U.S., but Cunard appears to be substantially managed from Southampton. Unless I have mis-read the brochures and on-line information, Holland America's head office is in Seattle. I found HAL to be very American - not just because of the ghastly way they serve tea. Even on our first HAL cruise in 1974, long before the Carnival takeover, it seemed very American.

It was often said that Cunard was not as "British" as many other British lines - a sort of mid-Atlantic style many said. After a few Cunard crossings we had voyages on Union-Castle and P&O and noticed a big difference - mostly favourable to my taste.