itzgeralyn Posted March 27, 2012 #176 Share Posted March 27, 2012 If I have invited guests at my table...or am the invited guest at anothers table...I think it appropriate to offer a serving of a bottle of wine. Short of that, the rule of thumb does not apply, imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itzgeralyn Posted March 27, 2012 #177 Share Posted March 27, 2012 OK so you have made it abundantly clear you don't like or agree with this thread. So WHY are you still reading it and posting??? :confused: :rolleyes: To whom is this ^ post addressed please? tia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terjul Posted March 27, 2012 #178 Share Posted March 27, 2012 We can't talk in the elevators?!! Is someone napping in there? That is a new one. My thoughts exactly! Never heard of this one.:confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfy012 Posted March 27, 2012 #179 Share Posted March 27, 2012 If you can't cope with vacationers minor annoyances.........good luck with life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warm Breezes Posted March 27, 2012 #180 Share Posted March 27, 2012 Treat others as you want to be treated-do unto others as they would do unto you It all got thrown out the window years ago. Now it's treat me as if i were emperor, and the heck with you. Not every one, and not everywhere, but most of us "older" folk see it more and more every day. They used to say that the generation of the 80's was the "me generation," but it really is the current generation. I deal with the public everyday in person and on the phone, and the younger the person the less ability they have to connect with another human. Ever see a young couple out on a date, she's on her phone, he's on his-how do they really know why they went out with each other?:o I digress-you asked for helpful hints-Read the signs before action. Hot tubs say no children-(at least they used to) Unfortunalety there is no sign for not using your hands when reaching for food-use tongs...... Really you shouldn't generalize like that. It is rather offensive. On our Glory cruise an elderly gentleman was behind me in the buffet line. His first words when he walked up by me were "My your a tall one aren't you?" Next he pointed to the spoons on top of the buffet and said "I could use one of those spoons for my cereal?" I thought ok he might have trouble reaching them so I handed him a spoon. There was no "please" and no "thank you". As we went down the buffet he demanded a few more items...again no "please" or "thank yous". I got tired of being his unappreciated servant after multiple requests like this and took myself off away from where he was. This was an elderly gentleman who was rude and was only thinking of himself. If he'd had been polite about it, I would have continued to help him. Later on that same cruise DH was in line at the grill. A middle-aged man cut in front of him to grab a hot dog and fries. In the process he threw a hot dog down on DH's plate with his hands. There was no excuse me. No I'm sorry. This was a middle-aged man who was rude and was only thinking of himself. On our Freedom Cruise, I found a table with 2 chairs outside on the Lido deck as I finished getting my food and was waiting for DD to finish getting hers and come out to join me. After I had taken my seat, a teenaged girl came running up and grabbed the other chair at my table and pulled it over to the table where her friends were at. She did not ask if the chair was available, she just took it. I gave her the "look" and told her thanks for taking my daughters chair who was just walking up with her food. She just shrugged and blew me off. This was a teenage girl who was rude and only thinking of herself. FWIW those are the only instances where we were personally accousted by rude people out of all our cruises. Rude and selfish people come in all ages. Who do you think taught these young people you are talking about to be so rude and selfish....they learn by example. I have 2 teenage kids who have been complimented for the attitude and behavior their whole life by teachers, coaches, and even strangers. DD was voted kindest in her class in 8th grade by all of her classmates. When she was in middle school, she often asked if she could walk over to DGGM apartment after school so she could visit with her. This visit often included a game of scramble or cards with some snacks. Not all teenagers are rude and selfish....the good ones learn by example too. There are teens out there who only take the stairs, who say please, thank you, and exuse me, who wait their turn in line, and who think of others before themselves. I know...I have 2 of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warm Breezes Posted March 27, 2012 #181 Share Posted March 27, 2012 OK, so you weren't kidding. Wow. Yes, of course we all should follow simple rules of respecting others: waiting our turn, letting people off the elevator before getting on, etc. But some of your etiquette mandates are just silly. You don't want to hear other people's conversations. You really expect people to stop talking in elevators? Why stop there? Why not expect them to stop talking while next to you in line at the buffet, while sitting next to you in the theater waiting for the show to start, while waiting for a tender (oh, wait... you said that). OK, I agree that I don't want to hear somebody telling his companion all about his hemorrhoids, but you can't seriously expect people to just stop talking whenever they are in proximity to you. Pick up their dominoes -- abandoning a game in progress -- because you can't find a seat? Isn't this a public space? There are etiquette rules about what you may or may not do when seated on the lido deck? Share their wine? So if I'm at an table of 8 and want to share a bottle of wine with my hubby, I guess I have to actually buy 4 bottles so each couple can share equally with us? Are you kidding? One bottle shared amongst 8 will give each of us little more than a taste. I don't have the budget to pay for your drinks at dinner. Sorry. Please and thank you and not saving seats or cutting in line and all that -- we agree on basic rules of civil society and being polite. But when your "rules of etiquette" extend to expecting to have my table, my wine, and my silence, then you have moved beyond etiquette to something much less noble, in my opinion. Don't some of the OP's etiquette rules sound like she is the one being selfish...Don't talk on the elevator, I don't want to hear you. Give up your table so I can have a seat. If your going to by a bottle of wine vs a glass, you better be giving some of it to me. That's not etiquette...That's selfishness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mousey Posted March 27, 2012 #182 Share Posted March 27, 2012 Is rule 3a. "If you order a cocktail at a bar, consider buying one for the stranger next to you, it's just good etiquette."? Especially if it's me!;):D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
footballbabe3 Posted March 27, 2012 #183 Share Posted March 27, 2012 I think these are all great suggestions. It goes back to, just don't be rude. I have a feeling the negative remarks are being left by people who do act that way. Just think about someone beside yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mousey Posted March 27, 2012 #184 Share Posted March 27, 2012 I dislike when people use elevators to go up or down only 1 floor (perfectly healthy and young people). My wife and I vow to always take the stairs, but there are times you need to use the elevator when needing to go up or down 8 levels. So when i see people going up or down 1 floor, I want to explode Lucky Z, they may be like me on one of my cruises. I had a soft-tissue accident from tripping in a hole at my DS's baseball game and I could barely walk. However, I wasn't about to cancel our cruise because of a bad back. So, I was one of those people that had to use an elevator to go up or down only 1 floor. You wouldn't know it to look at me that I was in excruciating pain. So, please think of me next time you get ticked off and have a little patience, you can't always judge a book by its cover.;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfy012 Posted March 27, 2012 #185 Share Posted March 27, 2012 Don't some of the OP's etiquette rules sound like she is the one being selfish...Don't talk on the elevator, I don't want to hear you. Give up your table so I can have a seat. If your going to by a bottle of wine vs a glass, you better be giving some of it to me. That's not etiquette...That's selfishness. LOL! It sure does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H82seaUgo Posted March 27, 2012 #186 Share Posted March 27, 2012 Don't some of the OP's etiquette rules sound like she is the one being selfish...Don't talk on the elevator, I don't want to hear you. Give up your table so I can have a seat. If your going to by a bottle of wine vs a glass, you better be giving some of it to me. That's not etiquette...That's selfishness. bingo! imagine everyone walking onto a ship looking for "their" rules to be followed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ncbeachteacher Posted March 27, 2012 #187 Share Posted March 27, 2012 I am very tolerant of other people's behavior and I try very hard to make sure I do not inadvertently insult someone. However, the wine issue gets me. If I was at home and was out with family or friends in a nice restaurant, I would gladly buy a bottle of wine for the "table." Heck, I would probably buy two. I might offer an appetizer or something to share. I might order a glass of wine just for me. We are all adults and we can take care of our needs. On a cruise, I am seated with strangers that I may get to know or not. If I purchase a bottle of wine for my consumption, it is for my consumption. I might have a glass a night out of my bottle... My choice. I do not feel compelled socially to share this bottle with others, nor do I feel I am being rude by not sharing it. It is a different situation entirely. If, on the last night of the cruise, we have really enjoyed ourselves and life is grand sort of thing, I might want to purchase a bottle of wine for the table. That is also a choice. No obligation. Bottom line, when I am in a forced-choice seating situation, I do not feel compelled to share a bottle of wine I have to purchase. I can do so if I want to. There is no social rule that says I have to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babyher Posted March 27, 2012 #188 Share Posted March 27, 2012 Don't some of the OP's etiquette rules sound like she is the one being selfish...Don't talk on the elevator, I don't want to hear you. Give up your table so I can have a seat. If your going to by a bottle of wine vs a glass, you better be giving some of it to me. That's not etiquette...That's selfishness. Thats exactly how it sounded to me . "I don't like this , so you shouldn't do it " "I do like that , so be a thoughtful and respectful person and do that for me won't you" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdfireman Posted March 27, 2012 #189 Share Posted March 27, 2012 Dont pass gas in the elevator.. Remember the stairs never break Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FightOnRon Posted March 27, 2012 #190 Share Posted March 27, 2012 Many of these "I'm going to do what I want, I only care about me" comments remind me of the foundations of Satanism: "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law"- Aleister Crowley Nice twist,,,,well done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keystonemama Posted March 27, 2012 #191 Share Posted March 27, 2012 Actually this was not tongue in cheek. The thread was not meant to cause drama, how could discussing etiquette cause drama with sane adults. For people who think my threads are drama causing, why not just skip them instead of making comments that are not related to what is being discussed. I skip over alot of threads that don't interest me. Most of the suggestions are excellent. I can see the point to some degree about not sharing wine, but a cake that has been ordered, wouldn't that be ok, particularly since you can't eat it all and most likely won't eat it later due to the desserts onboard? Common courtesy I agree with, stop talkin' in an elevator not going to happen, it's a public place of course, but we did order an anniversay cake on our cruise, it feeds 10 people and we had 4 at the table, of course we shared and still had plenty to carry back to the room! We also shared a bottle of champagne DH won on board for running to the hot tub (first one in) during morning news, he probably broke a rule there for running on deck...lol, it's ok though he hadn't had a chance to drink his bloody mary's!;) Happy Sailing, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rutgersgirl27 Posted March 27, 2012 #192 Share Posted March 27, 2012 Don't some of the OP's etiquette rules sound like she is the one being selfish...Don't talk on the elevator, I don't want to hear you. Give up your table so I can have a seat. If your going to by a bottle of wine vs a glass, you better be giving some of it to me. That's not etiquette...That's selfishness. There's 2 ways to read everything, it seems. I read the OP's points as you should be mindful of others around you. Or rather, just don't be a jerk about things. Just to add my own etiquette .02, how about keeping quiet during the muster drill? The last cruise I was on, a group of women were just being obnoxious. They were texting, whispering, and had the nerve to tell everyone else to shush. They were the last to arrive, and we started late to begin with. The other girls I cruised with were inexperienced cruisers. They couldn't pay attention to what was being said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A2Mich Posted March 27, 2012 #193 Share Posted March 27, 2012 The really sad thing, is that the majority of these suggestions may simply be "common sense." However, if everyone used common sense, these types of threads wouldn't be here time and time again. As a bumper sticker that I once saw reads: "The two most common elements in the universe are hydrogen and stupidity." Sometimes I tend to think that the hydrogen level may be dangerously low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FightOnRon Posted March 27, 2012 #194 Share Posted March 27, 2012 This deal about not going up one floor on an elevator,,,,I though ALL elevators were filled with kids riding them and stopping at every floor anyhow. I am tired already. I will be on deck 2 of the Splendor,,I have one heck of a climb to get to burgers and fries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A2Mich Posted March 27, 2012 #195 Share Posted March 27, 2012 This deal about not going up one floor on an elevator,,,,I though ALL elevators were filled with kids riding them and stopping at every floor anyhow. I am tired already. I will be on deck 2 of the Splendor,,I have one heck of a climb to get to burgers and fries. Wondering if fireman's poles should be installed....then there would be a quick way back to the lower decks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hava Posted March 30, 2012 #196 Share Posted March 30, 2012 I've been cruising for 25 years and whatever happened to just LOVING BEING AT SEA AND RELAXING! People take the first day and unwind from all your stress! Be kind to fellow passengers and curtious! Remember it is that long awaited vacation you have been dreaming of!!!!!!!!!!!!! That is how it was when I first started cruising and it still should be. None of this petty nit picking! There are bigger ships now but remember were all here for the same reason relax , enjoy, and meet people. Sail On! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christinaharris80 Posted March 30, 2012 #197 Share Posted March 30, 2012 I so agree with point #1!!! It is not fair for grouchy people whining and complaining to bring down a wonderful time that others are having. I try to keep in a cheerful mood in lines for tenders, etc. There was one day where where we had an AMAZING day in Grand Cayman. Rode a catamaran out to snorkel and stingray city, beautiful, clear day. Beautiful ride back and then there was an issue w/the bus and people were just complaining and their 6 yo old boy yells, this is the worst day EVER! I was just so upset that the crew on the boat heard it and that their horrible attitudes rubbed off on their kid, who'd just been laughing and playing in the water and having a great time. I tried my best to ignore them and really just wanted to tell them to shut up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erbunny Posted March 30, 2012 #198 Share Posted March 30, 2012 Most of these rules are okay, but I am wondering if the OP is as considerate of others? Do they stop their activity and give up their table for someone else? Why should someone be expected to do so? And I have this picture of a sad OP waiting for someone else to order wine and share it, so they don't have to buy any. I just don't get the vibe that they are the outgoing share everything type. That said, it would be very nice indeed if people would just apply the Golden Rule everywhere, not just on cruises. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bplazo Posted March 30, 2012 #199 Share Posted March 30, 2012 Most of these rules are okay, but I am wondering if the OP is as considerate of others? Do they stop their activity and give up their table for someone else? Why should someone be expected to do so? And I have this picture of a sad OP waiting for someone else to order wine and share it, so they don't have to buy any. I just don't get the vibe that they are the outgoing share everything type. That said, it would be very nice indeed if people would just apply the Golden Rule everywhere, not just on cruises. I believe that the op's comment referred to people who take up tables in the buffet to read a book, play cards, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wework2play Posted March 30, 2012 #200 Share Posted March 30, 2012 how would you know they were healthy? my knee acts up at times and i cannot use stairs, and you would never know it. My husband is 38, and broke his hip in a car accident years ago. He can't walk too far without being in pain (we don't go to the zoo!). He would be one of those taking the stairs that people wonder why. you really can't tell unless you look closely that anything is wrong with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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