FLACRUISER99 Posted July 23, 2014 #176 Share Posted July 23, 2014 (edited) These kinds of threads can be dangerous and counterproductive! They send a message to RCCL that its most loyal cruisers are expecting changes, and, in many cases, accepting them in advance. I'm not! If there are changes, I fully expect to be grandfathered into the present reward system. If RCCL wants to make changes for new folks, fine and good, but I for one expect that the cruise line will live up to the promises it has made to me as I have spent my money in good faith expecting the perks that have been promised! That's what I was trying to say on post #22I'm sure if you and others keep posting your guesses It will happen. Edited July 23, 2014 by FLACRUISER99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARCruisinNana Posted July 23, 2014 #177 Share Posted July 23, 2014 But he will retain Pinnacle status (though his point count may be lower.) And, should he remarry, his new spouse will be Pinnacle upon her second cruise. That is what I thought , but she said no, that would not happen. He would go back to D+ status and if he remarried the new spouse would not get the Pinnacle status. I told her I didn't believe that would happen and she said that is what she was told. Sent from my iPad using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starry Eyes Posted July 23, 2014 #178 Share Posted July 23, 2014 (edited) So you expect a wife to go to the lounge without her husband or vice versa? Or else not use the perk? Really? That would make this perk out of the norm of other perks for airlines, hotels and airport lounges, etc. You always get to bring your spouse. What would Royal gain by going against the norm and angering it's loyal guests? My husband has the highest tier on several major airlines. When flying together if he gets upgraded to business/first so do I. Same with a hotel concierge lounge. So, the airline does not give you or his kids high tier status, but treats you well when you travel with your husband, the highest tier member. Well, cruiseline could do that, too. Celebrity allows cabinmates of Elites to attend the cocktail parties, even if the cabinmate personally lacks Captain's Club status. If Royal Caribbean did something similar (allowing cabinmates to share C&A perks), it would solve your husband/wife lounge issue you cite (unless they did not share a cabin for their own reasons). Wouldn't that be a better parellel to your airline example? Edited July 23, 2014 by Starry Eyes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starry Eyes Posted July 23, 2014 #179 Share Posted July 23, 2014 That is what I thought , but she said no, that would not happen. He would go back to D+ status and if he remarried the new spouse would not get the Pinnacle status. I told her I didn't believe that would happen and she said that is what she was told. Sent from my iPad using Forums Perhaps somebody thought it better to underpromise than to risk overpromising? Like you, I doubt they'd take PC away if his wife passed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zou Bisou Bisou Posted July 24, 2014 #180 Share Posted July 24, 2014 So, the airline does not give you or his kids high tier status, but treats you well when you travel with your husband, the highest tier member. Well, cruiseline could do that, too. Celebrity allows cabinmates of Elites to attend the cocktail parties, even if the cabinmate personally lacks Captain's Club status. If Royal Caribbean did something similar (allowing cabinmates to share C&A perks), it would solve your husband/wife lounge issue you cite (unless they did not share a cabin for their own reasons). Wouldn't that be a better parellel to your airline example? Yes, and I would be ok with that. I think it was crazy of Royal Caribbean to give everyone in the family the same status as the highest tiered member of that family. I don't think people even expected that but that is what they did and still do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starry Eyes Posted July 24, 2014 #181 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Yes, and I would be ok with that. I think it was crazy of Royal Caribbean to give everyone in the family the same status as the highest tiered member of that family. I don't think people even expected that but that is what they did and still do. Yes, their current policy does seem crazy to me, too. I'd like loyalty members to be able to enjoy their perks and also their spouse, kids, or other travel companions, but giving high status to a person his entire life because his D+ parents brought him on a cruise or two as a minor seems strange to me. Oh well, their program, their rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travelgoddess1 Posted July 24, 2014 #182 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Yes, their current policy does seem crazy to me, too. I'd like loyalty members to be able to enjoy their perks and also their spouse, kids, or other travel companions, but giving high status to a person his entire life because his D+ parents brought him on a cruise or two as a minor seems strange to me. Oh well, their program, their rules. I don't think it is lifetime status for children, only until they reach a certain age. At that point, they revert to points for cruises actually taken. But I agree with your overall point. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akcruz Posted July 24, 2014 #183 Share Posted July 24, 2014 I don't think it is lifetime status for children, only until they reach a certain age. At that point, they revert to points for cruises actually taken. But I agree with your overall point. :) Yes, they revert to their own points when they turn 18, but they retain the status level. So if you had a child that only took one cruise before 18, but their parents were Diamond, when they hit 18 they would have 7 points, but still be Diamond. They would need to get all the points on their own to make it to the D+ level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted July 24, 2014 #184 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Yes, they revert to their own points when they turn 18, but they retain the status level. So if you had a child that only took one cruise before 18, but their parents were Diamond, when they hit 18 they would have 7 points, but still be Diamond. They would need to get all the points on their own to make it to the D+ level. OK, my son's have taken one cruise on RC. It was our first cruise on RC. We were probably Platinum by the time our youngest turned 18. Is he Platinum now? I guess I could create an account for him and see what comes up Sent from my HTC One_M8 using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travelgoddess1 Posted July 24, 2014 #185 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Yes, they revert to their own points when they turn 18, but they retain the status level. So if you had a child that only took one cruise before 18, but their parents were Diamond, when they hit 18 they would have 7 points, but still be Diamond. They would need to get all the points on their own to make it to the D+ level. Thanks for the clarification. There is almost always a caveat or two hidden in the fine print. :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarea Posted July 24, 2014 #186 Share Posted July 24, 2014 OK, my son's have taken one cruise on RC. It was our first cruise on RC. We were probably Platinum by the time our youngest turned 18. Is he Platinum now? I guess I could create an account for him and see what comes up. If your son was linked to your account at the time he turned 18, then he should have whatever level you had at that time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted July 24, 2014 #187 Share Posted July 24, 2014 If your son was linked to your account at the time he turned 18, then he should have whatever level you had at that time. Pretty sure he was not linked, trying to get CA numbers now. Had to contact C&A because Empress is not in the drop-down list Sent from my HTC One_M8 using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarea Posted July 24, 2014 #188 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Pretty sure he was not linked, trying to get CA numbers now. Had to contact C&A because Empress is not in the drop-down list The fact that he was not linked may be a problem with him getting the same status as you had when he turned 18. I'd be curious what C&A tells you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starry Eyes Posted July 24, 2014 #189 Share Posted July 24, 2014 The fact that he was not linked may be a problem with him getting the same status as you had when he turned 18. I'd be curious what C&A tells you. I'll be curious, too. Though Platinum (via parents), as I recall, doesn't get him much all that much more than Gold (on his own). And he will have to earn his way up to Emerald, Diamond, etc from his own points Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marci22 Posted July 24, 2014 #190 Share Posted July 24, 2014 The fact that he was not linked may be a problem with him getting the same status as you had when he turned 18. I'd be curious what C&A tells you. Yes. They may say he has his own status as he has already turned 18. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PompeySailor Posted July 25, 2014 #191 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Our DD (12) has made D+ through the 19 cruises she has been on, she will remain at D+ status with accrued points when reaching 18 She was linked to our C&A accounts from 6 months:) And with the DW and DD cruising on 11+ nighters every year without me:( In suites (double points). Plus the 2 or more we do each year, Pinnacle will be achievable probably before she reaches 30. At 18 still will be D+ but will then have to accrue points and status on her own to achieve Pinnacle. Of course she wants to make it to the top tier before she reaches 18.;) Bless her she said "Dad Will I be the youngest Pinnacle member" Anyone know the age of the youngest Pinnacle member, she was D+ when she was 8 in her own right. Happy Days! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ourusualbeach Posted July 25, 2014 #192 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Our DD (12) has made D+ through the 19 cruises she has been on, she will remain at D+ status with accrued points when reaching 18 She was linked to our C&A accounts from 6 months:) And with the DW and DD cruising on 11+ nighters every year without me:( In suites (double points). Plus the 2 or more we do each year, Pinnacle will be achievable probably before she reaches 30. At 18 still will be D+ but will then have to accrue points and status on her own to achieve Pinnacle. Of course she wants to make it to the top tier before she reaches 18.;) Bless her she said "Dad Will I be the youngest Pinnacle member" Anyone know the age of the youngest Pinnacle member, she was D+ when she was 8 in her own right. Happy Days! Hey Graham, Read here that there was or going to be someone turning a pinnacle in their early 20's. Still a great achievement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PompeySailor Posted July 25, 2014 #193 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Hey Graham, Read here that there was or going to be someone turning a pinnacle in their early 20's. Still a great achievement. Morning Ken.. Agreed that is some cruising. All the best to them I say. Pinnacle at 20!!! just imagine where they will be at when they retire:) I am aiming for 50 myself LOL;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PSCruiser Posted July 25, 2014 #194 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Yes, they revert to their own points when they turn 18, but they retain the status level. So if you had a child that only took one cruise before 18, but their parents were Diamond, when they hit 18 they would have 7 points, but still be Diamond. They would need to get all the points on their own to make it to the D+ level. Its a situation similar to making Elite on X because of RC status, however advancing to Elite Plus has to be done by earning the points on Celebrity, the RC points mean nothing . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LBcruzman Posted September 13, 2014 #195 Share Posted September 13, 2014 I will apologize now for living near Port Canaveral and being able to take 3 night cruises on a regular basis. For this, I am sorry. I was born here, work here, and raised my son here. now, I am D+. I am not wealthy, nor poor. I am a middle class working person along with my DH. We started doing 7 night cruises after our son left the house and our responsibilities went away. Again, I'm sorry to have attained this level with ease. But, on the other point, anyone could have taken b/b cruises 3/4 nights and earn 2 cruise points for 7 nights instead of 1. Hey gma, don't be sorry. Many of us who have to fly for our cruises rack up miles and more using certain credit cards. Adding my DH business flights our status gets us free bags and usually upgraded to business class. With miles we often fly free. So there are perks even having to fly. But the flights....hate those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dancinman66 Posted September 13, 2014 #196 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Everything in life is a compromise Flying gives points there I just love our cruising Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChipLondon Posted September 13, 2014 #197 Share Posted September 13, 2014 I really think Good Luck to anyone that achieves any status, ( even Gold ) the ability to cruise is an amazing thing. Despite the growth of the industry there are still many people in this world that would enjoy just one meal in a Windjammer. However I fail to see that being born to parents that enjoy cruising is actually any kind of achievement, outside of that for the parents that have worked hard enough to be able to enjoy many cruises with their children. I take my hat of to the parents, as I know full well that we would probably not have achieved even Diamond if we had any children ( unless I had put them to work at an illegal age). :D Hey Graham, Read here that there was or going to be someone turning a pinnacle in their early 20's. Still a great achievement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trekker954 Posted September 13, 2014 #198 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Hey Graham, Read here that there was or going to be someone turning a pinnacle in their early 20's. Still a great achievement. Could it be someone's trophy bride? Pinnacle by injection :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted September 13, 2014 #199 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Could it be someone's trophy bride? Pinnacle by injection :D So wrong Sent from my HTC One_M8 using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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