Andy Posted July 6, 2015 #451 Share Posted July 6, 2015 So, if I'm getting this right: the longer the cruise, the more you pay (in per diem upgrade fees) to get the same amount of OBC (??) -- yikes! What rocket scientist came up with this pricing scheme? :eek: Hi Wwcruisers, I know, I know.... all in all, I like the overall concept, but I really think they need to tweak this. For double occupancy, I'd say $400.00 OBC for 10-12 nights, and $500.00 OBC for 13+ nights, and this makes better sense. I'd keep the OBC at $300.00 for singles on all sailings, as this seems fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare GeorgiaPeach51 Posted July 6, 2015 #452 Share Posted July 6, 2015 Thanks, Jane. Appreciate your input and will follow it! :) I surely have now developed an appreciation of how EASY it used to be with Celebrity. Perhaps we will all get used to it but right now vacation planning with Celebrity is looking like a project at work! Tedious and involving lots of calculator time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaneStarr Posted July 6, 2015 #453 Share Posted July 6, 2015 Thanks, Jane. Appreciate your input and will follow it! :) I surely have now developed an appreciation of how EASY it used to be with Celebrity. Perhaps we will all get used to it but right now vacation planning with Celebrity is looking like a project at work! Tedious and involving lots of calculator time. Funny, because one of their stated objectives for implementing this new pricing structure was to make it EASY. From: http://www.travelweekly.com/Cruise-Travel/Celebrity-Cruises-to-go-exclusively-with-bundle-pricing “We needed to completely change what’s going on,” [senior VP...] Ritzethaler told Tolkin. “Our guiding principles were to give consumers ultimate choice, raise APDs (average per diems) and make it easy.” I actually do think this pricing has the potential to be "easier" than comparing the various,. time-limited offers with different terms and conditions which were previously offered. It will all depend on how they handle a surplus of unbooked cabins. Reducing prices is only part of the picture. Guessing they will need to retain some form of the Tuesday Specials w/o including different perks. Only time will tell.... Jane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
true45 Posted July 6, 2015 #454 Share Posted July 6, 2015 I appreciate the live chat Got a bit of info But there were a couple of questions regarding already booked sailings adding the big better best promotion As I read Lisa's replies saying no increase in fare yes to adding promos I called Celebrity to add Internet to my 123 inclusive. But the rep said I would have up pay extra She checked with supervisor and said they were trained in Friday that they charge extra even though it said included on the jan sailing page I have concierge cabin So color me confused Thanks to anyone who can explain this[emoji3][emoji568] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brfan Posted July 6, 2015 #455 Share Posted July 6, 2015 Hi Anne, You aren't losing your mind, but it is a lot to digest. I read it that way too.... but don't hold me to anything LOL. I agree it's crazy since I haven't seen any rule that says for a solo if you want the $300 OBC you have to select in the Go Big only. Also the pricing on the website shows double for the Go Better and Go Best for solos (at least it did when I checked this morning). Based on Lisa's response that is incorrect. But who knows :confused: :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cindy Posted July 6, 2015 #456 Share Posted July 6, 2015 AndyBecause of booking on board and the 1,2, 3 package we will have $650 of non-refundable OBC. Our Gratuities are paid, we don't do Celebrity excursions, I've had enough mediocre massages for a lifetime and so the only thing left to spend that OBC on is an upgrade to our drink package. We HAVE to do that once on board so I certainly hope they don't take that option away. :( From today's "chat": "We had to take many groups, categories and offerings that we currently had when we came up with Big, Better, Best. No other offerings that we provide have been affected by our new pricing program. All guests should choose which option works "best" option for them and their circumstances." 12:43 PM I'm in the same "boat" (no pun intended;))! We have the 1-2-3 Go! All Inclusive that's combined with a book on board bonus and an "apology" credit for a grand total of $725 in OBC in March.:eek: The only Celebrity tour we're doing is the ferry through the canal, and that's booked and paid for since I heard it sells out. I'm counting on using some of the OBC to upgrade our drink packages...a couple specialty dinners, and I guess we'll use the rest to supplement our free internet minutes. I certainly hope I can still use the OBC to upgrade my beverage package. That's a lot of OBC even with the upgrade. Since it's non-refundable OBC I need to use it or lose it, but it's been a lot of years since I felt compelled to purchase a bunch of cruise ship trinkets or t-shirts! If nothing else, maybe there's a special bottle of wine in our cruise future!:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHEZMARYLOU Posted July 6, 2015 #457 Share Posted July 6, 2015 Hi Wwcruisers, I know, I know.... all in all, I like the overall concept, but I really think they need to tweak this. For double occupancy, I'd say $400.00 OBC for 10-12 nights, and $500.00 OBC for 13+ nights, and this makes better sense. I'd keep the OBC at $300.00 for singles on all sailings, as this seems fair. The other bad choice for a cruise less than 12 days is prepaid gratuities, unless you are in a suite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare ghstudio Posted July 6, 2015 #458 Share Posted July 6, 2015 I appreciate the live chatGot a bit of info But there were a couple of questions regarding already booked sailings adding the big better best promotion As I read Lisa's replies saying no increase in fare yes to adding promos I called Celebrity to add Internet to my 123 inclusive. But the rep said I would have up pay extra She checked with supervisor and said they were trained in Friday that they charge extra even though it said included on the jan sailing page I have concierge cabin So color me confused Thanks to anyone who can explain this[emoji3][emoji568] Sorry...but why do you assume that you can just convert 123 inclusive to best? One offer is 1-2-3, the other is best. If you want Best, I'd think you would just change to best at today's price and drop 1-2-3? What am I missing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
true45 Posted July 6, 2015 #459 Share Posted July 6, 2015 Sorry...but why do you assume that you can just convert 123 inclusive to best? One offer is 1-2-3, the other is best. If you want Best, I'd think you would just change to best at today's price and drop 1-2-3? What am I missing? Hi ghstudio Did you read the chat? She said the fare would not increase unless the cabin changed. And I asked the rep only for Internet which the website said is included Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ma Bell Posted July 6, 2015 #460 Share Posted July 6, 2015 I appreciate the live chatGot a bit of info But there were a couple of questions regarding already booked sailings adding the big better best promotion As I read Lisa's replies saying no increase in fare yes to adding promos I called Celebrity to add Internet to my 123 inclusive. But the rep said I would have up pay extra She checked with supervisor and said they were trained in Friday that they charge extra even though it said included on the jan sailing page I have concierge cabin So color me confused Thanks to anyone who can explain this[emoji3][emoji568] I think you misunderstood what she said. Your base price would remain the same but you would have to pay for additions over and above what you have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted July 6, 2015 #461 Share Posted July 6, 2015 The other bad choice for a cruise less than 12 days is prepaid gratuities, unless you are in a suite. Agreed ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chamima Posted July 6, 2015 #462 Share Posted July 6, 2015 (edited) I'm in the same "boat" (no pun intended;))! We have the 1-2-3 Go! All Inclusive that's combined with a book on board bonus and an "apology" credit for a grand total of $725 in OBC in March.:eek: The only Celebrity tour we're doing is the ferry through the canal, and that's booked and paid for since I heard it sells out. I'm counting on using some of the OBC to upgrade our drink packages...a couple specialty dinners, and I guess we'll use the rest to supplement our free internet minutes. I certainly hope I can still use the OBC to upgrade my beverage package. That's a lot of OBC even with the upgrade. Since it's non-refundable OBC I need to use it or lose it, but it's been a lot of years since I felt compelled to purchase a bunch of cruise ship trinkets or t-shirts! If nothing else, maybe there's a special bottle of wine in our cruise future!:D Also, BTW, one of the "still in Moderation" questions was mine regarding her answer to what would happen to existing reservations. I asked early on so time wasn't an issue and I asked a second time in case it was an inadvertent error in not answering. Never did get even posted (I can see it because I asked but no one else can.) I copied and pasted here: We've already reserved and paid the deposit on a cruise for next summer. This new program won't affect existing reservations, will it? by DaveEasternPenn 12:12 PM Comment (3) ↑ 0 Lisa Lutoff-Perlo,... No existing reservations will be affected. If you would like to upgrade to Go Best, we will take care of that for you with no change to your cruise fare. If you change staterooms, new pricing may apply. 12:13 PM chamima How will you do that if the cruise fare already included the full 1, 2, 3 benefits? $45/day to add the Premium drink package and internet???? Thanks for your comment! It's in moderation. chamima How will you do that if the cruise fare already included the full 1, 2, 3 benefits? $45/day to add the Premium drink package and internet???? Thanks for your comment! It's in moderation. Edited July 6, 2015 by chamima Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ISABELLA Posted July 6, 2015 #463 Share Posted July 6, 2015 Am I missing something??? I am trying to check if there is a 55+ or residential rate for a cruise on Eclipse in December, 2016. And now I don't see that option for any category but Insides. Does it mean that it would not be available with all 3 price tiers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
true45 Posted July 6, 2015 #464 Share Posted July 6, 2015 Also, BTW, one of the "still in Moderation" questions was mine regarding her answer to what would happen to existing reservations. I asked early on so time wasn't an issue and I asked a second time in case it was an inadvertent error in not answering. Never did get even posted (I can see it because I asked but no one else can.) I copied and pasted here: We've already reserved and paid the deposit on a cruise for next summer. This new program won't affect existing reservations, will it? by DaveEasternPenn 12:12 PM Comment (3) ↑ 0 Lisa Lutoff-Perlo,... No existing reservations will be affected. If you would like to upgrade to Go Best, we will take care of that for you with no change to your cruise fare. If you change staterooms, new pricing may apply. 12:13 PM chamima How will you do that if the cruise fare already included the full 1, 2, 3 benefits? $45/day to add the Premium drink package and internet???? Thanks for your comment! It's in moderation. chamima How will you do that if the cruise fare already included the full 1, 2, 3 benefits? $45/day to add the Premium drink package and internet???? Thanks for your comment! It's in moderation. My question to clarify this was also in moderation. Currently balcony cabins receive all 4 perks including Internet (on website) for my sailing for no additional charge over the fare But although we are in concierge we are not entitled to Internet unless we pay extra according to the rep a few minutes ago which is not what Lisa said in the chat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare ghstudio Posted July 6, 2015 #465 Share Posted July 6, 2015 Am I missing something??? I am trying to check if there is a 55+ or residential rate for a cruise on Eclipse in December, 2016. And now I don't see that option for any category but Insides. Does it mean that it would not be available with all 3 price tiers? it is not available with the good/better/best tiers...it is a different rate. There is a line of small type under the big boxes with good/better/best that says something like "look at more options". click on that to get the 55+ and other rates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted July 6, 2015 #466 Share Posted July 6, 2015 (edited) Am I missing something??? I am trying to check if there is a 55+ or residential rate for a cruise on Eclipse in December, 2016. And now I don't see that option for any category but Insides. Does it mean that it would not be available with all 3 price tiers? Hi Isabella, How are you ? Hope all is well. To be eligible for Go Big, Better, Best, you must book Oceanview and Above, and it doesn't apply to senior or resident rates. When I checked some Eclipse sailing earlier today, there was an option to bypass Big, Better, Best, and opt to view Senior / resident / military rates. Hope this helps ! Edited July 6, 2015 by Host Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chamima Posted July 6, 2015 #467 Share Posted July 6, 2015 (edited) Sorry...but why do you assume that you can just convert 123 inclusive to best? One offer is 1-2-3, the other is best. If you want Best, I'd think you would just change to best at today's price and drop 1-2-3? What am I missing? Because Lisa kind of said so. See her answer below. Several of us tried to clarify but it wasn't posted or addressed. Also, BTW, one of the "still in Moderation" questions was mine regarding her answer to what would happen to existing reservations.I asked early on so time wasn't an issue and I asked a second time in case it was an inadvertent error in not answering. Never did get even posted (I can see it because I asked but no one else can.) I copied and pasted here: We've already reserved and paid the deposit on a cruise for next summer. This new program won't affect existing reservations, will it? by DaveEasternPenn 12:12 PM Comment (3) ↑ 0 Lisa Lutoff-Perlo,... No existing reservations will be affected. If you would like to upgrade to Go Best, we will take care of that for you with no change to your cruise fare. If you change staterooms, new pricing may apply. 12:13 PM chamima How will you do that if the cruise fare already included the full 1, 2, 3 benefits? $45/day to add the Premium drink package and internet???? Thanks for your comment! It's in moderation. chamima How will you do that if the cruise fare already included the full 1, 2, 3 benefits? $45/day to add the Premium drink package and internet???? Thanks for your comment! It's in moderation. I tried to ask that question. Edited July 6, 2015 by chamima Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare ghstudio Posted July 6, 2015 #468 Share Posted July 6, 2015 Because Lisa kind of said so. I saw her answer and, unless they are planning to give everyone with 123 inclusive free internet and premium package upgrade (ha!), I think she got lost in her answer and it wound up confusing folks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chamima Posted July 6, 2015 #469 Share Posted July 6, 2015 On the other hand, she gave me hope that the Molecular Bar might be reinstated. Booked my first cruise for this winter, but am reading a lot of conflicting views/reports on Molecular (Reflection Ship). Has it changed over to the new brand yet and what should one expect with the new bar? by Future Cruiser 12:18 PM Comment (4) ↑ 0 Lisa Lutoff-Perlo,... We are evaluating our guests' reaction to our new concept. The Molecular Bar onboard Celebrity Reflection has not changed. 12:19 PM Somewhere to drown our sorrows that we lost Bonaire as a port. (Of course, as long as we can still upgrade the drink package on the ship) ;) .. :p..:o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chamima Posted July 6, 2015 #470 Share Posted July 6, 2015 I saw her answer and, unless they are planning to give everyone with 123 inclusive free internet and premium package upgrade (ha!), I think she got lost in her answer and it wound up confusing folks. And chose not to clarify, as it seems at least a couple of us asked her to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptrpanpens Posted July 6, 2015 #471 Share Posted July 6, 2015 This may become easier when the new schedules for 2017 and beyond are released since we wont have any old or prebooked cruises to compare prices and perks. But by then, Celebrity will probably change the game rules again!:eek: For now I am keeping my cruises for next year as-is since there will no doubt be other price changes and who knows where things will end up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
true45 Posted July 6, 2015 #472 Share Posted July 6, 2015 I wonder why she would say that and have so many unhappy cruisers who will be refused when they try to collect on her offer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare ghstudio Posted July 6, 2015 #473 Share Posted July 6, 2015 And chose not to clarify, as it seems at least a couple of us asked her to do. she didn't decide not to clarify....whoever moderated decided not to post your clarification question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallie5446 Posted July 6, 2015 #474 Share Posted July 6, 2015 AndyBecause of booking on board and the 1,2, 3 package we will have $650 of non-refundable OBC. Karen, you can always go to the casino and withdraw it for the 5% fee. EW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a2zarts Posted July 6, 2015 #475 Share Posted July 6, 2015 (edited) For all those who were wondering if you could upgrade to the Premium Drinks package within the go big or better options. The answer is yes. It's an $11.00 PP Per Day charge and can be added at booking or on board. I'm on an industry call with Celebrity now and asked the question. In case you were wondering where the info came from. Edited July 6, 2015 by a2zarts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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