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Thanks to Laszio in the M&G threads, it appears following Gordon, the next Tropical Storm or Hurricane is Florence and current projections include one which brings it to BERMUDA somewhere around the 10th of September and then to the U.S. East Coast.

 

As we are leaving New York on the Escape on the 9th, that would put us behind getting to Bermuda before she hits ("if") and also impact our direct path to Bermuda.

 

So, looks like we wait and see (1) where she goes, (2) when, (3) if impact on Bermuda and sea route, "where do we alternately go," and (4) when will NCL start giving us some direct email and website updates.

 

Again, thanks to Laszio for the heads up.

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As we are leaving New York on the Escape on the 9th, that would put us behind getting to Bermuda before she hits ("if") and also impact our direct path to Bermuda. So, looks like we wait and see (1) where she goes, (2) when, (3) if impact on Bermuda and sea route, "where do we alternately go," and (4) when will NCL start giving us some direct email and website updates.

Florence is still just a tropical storm. Lots of rain and wind. Storms are very unpredictable (spaghetti models still not converging on the exact path of the storm). They change all the time.

 

The cruise line will try to keep the planned itinerary.

 

If you can not safely sail around the storm (e.g., the storm is over Bermuda when you plan to be in Bermuda), the Captain will switch to an alternate itinerary. Alternates could be the Escape's winter itinerary of Orlando, Nassau, GSC (they have done this in the recent past). Last year in the midst of the multiple Cat 5 hurricanes, our Bermuda cruise went north to Halifax (we actually got 2 days notice of the itinerary change since there was no way to sail south). Switching the itinerary of a cruise ship takes a lot more coordination than driving down the interstate in a RV and switching up rest stops. You have to arrange for some place to dock, you have to arrange for a local agent with shore personnel, you have to contract for shore excursions,,,,, all in the matter of days.

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Florence is still just a tropical storm. Lots of rain and wind. Storms are very unpredictable (spaghetti models still not converging on the exact path of the storm). They change all the time.

 

The cruise line will try to keep the planned itinerary.

 

If you can not safely sail around the storm (e.g., the storm is over Bermuda when you plan to be in Bermuda), the Captain will switch to an alternate itinerary. Alternates could be the Escape's winter itinerary of Orlando, Nassau, GSC (they have done this in the recent past). Last year in the midst of the multiple Cat 5 hurricanes, our Bermuda cruise went north to Halifax (we actually got 2 days notice of the itinerary change since there was no way to sail south). Switching the itinerary of a cruise ship takes a lot more coordination than driving down the interstate in a RV and switching up rest stops. You have to arrange for some place to dock, you have to arrange for a local agent with shore personnel, you have to contract for shore excursions,,,,, all in the matter of days.

 

Thanks, similar expressed on M&G thread.

 

I guess we'll watch and see.

 

On Anthem OTS this past January on a SC out of NY (never again) we were sauntering behind a nor'easter. Then, due to a medical emergency and orders to full speed to NY, the Captain told us we would have to cross the front. The roughest we've been on, but it was head on. Was up in the Solarium above the Bridge in the early AM hours. What a ride. We're lucky to have great 'sea legs; but it was not a cup of tea for the majority of passengers that night or the next day.

 

Again, thanks for the informational reply. Much appreciated.

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We sailed were to sail to Bahamas during Hurricane Matthew. We got rerouted to Mexico. Still had a great trip and actually got a extra day and half on the ship. Will admit I was upset that we didn’t get to use much of my 18 months of planning/researching. They will take good care of you and will try to do anything and everything not to cancel the trip.

 

 

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We sailed were to sail to Bahamas during Hurricane Matthew. We got rerouted to Mexico. Still had a great trip and actually got a extra day and half on the ship. Will admit I was upset that we didn’t get to use much of my 18 months of planning/researching. They will take good care of you and will try to do anything and everything not to cancel the trip.

 

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Thanks for the information.

 

As of this morning, here's the update on Florence and Bermuda. Whether direct Bermuda or North Atlantic, calling for some rough seas in Bermuda.

 

https://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-news/where-is-tropical-storm-florence-headed-in-the-atlantic/70005957

 

Again, time will tell over the next several days.

 

Again, thanks.

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October of 2016 we were booked to sail to Bermuda with Hurricane Nicole nearing the island. We boarded at regular time, had our muster drill, then we were told that "Bermuda was not an option". So we overnighted in New York and sailed out at about 8 in the morning to Cape Canaveral and a 6 hour stop in Nassau.

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October of 2016 we were booked to sail to Bermuda with Hurricane Nicole nearing the island. We boarded at regular time, had our muster drill, then we were told that "Bermuda was not an option". So we overnighted in New York and sailed out at about 8 in the morning to Cape Canaveral and a 6 hour stop in Nassau.

 

We might have been on the same cruise with you. I spent the next eighteen months fighting with NCL for some additional compensation for a future cruise. Of course that future cruise is the 09/09/18 sailing but I'm hoping this will blow over some, pun only slightly intended, and it won't affect this trip. Fingers crossed for what's worth.

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We might have been on the same cruise with you. I spent the next eighteen months fighting with NCL for some additional compensation for a future cruise. Of course that future cruise is the 09/09/18 sailing but I'm hoping this will blow over some, pun only slightly intended, and it won't affect this trip. Fingers crossed for what's worth.

 

:o

 

You might want to let us know when you're booking the next one.

 

:D

 

That's unbelievable.

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Latest..... bwsWTNT21.jpg?201894144914

 

You're the best source of information on this; hope you'll keep us updated. Best map I've seen.

 

I'm a novice at TS/H's coming from the Northeast. To my unskilled eyes, it looks like it is expected to track NORTH?

 

Do you have a link to the site hosting this map?

 

Again, thanks.

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You're the best source of information on this; hope you'll keep us updated. Best map I've seen.

 

I'm a novice at TS/H's coming from the Northeast. To my unskilled eyes, it looks like it is expected to track NORTH?

 

Do you have a link to the site hosting this map?

 

Again, thanks.

 

Right from the source....... http://www.royalgazette.com/news/article/20180901/tropical-storm-florence-strengthens

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Be cautious. Not hitting Bermuda is good. But it does not necessarily mean that there would safe course to get from the NE to Bermuda (although if the storm continues a easterly track, it will be ok).

 

That was our problem last year. Bermuda was fine, but we could not get there from NY, so we went north.

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Thanks.

 

Hope it turns out well. If not, we'll make the best of whatever alternative develops. Time to enjoy the ship (recently on Escape end of November first of December last year out of Miami) again, shows, food and drinks.

 

We can make Bermuda another time if we have to.

 

Hope it works out; CAVES and WAVES excursion, WildKat power boat excursion and private guide for Cliff Jumping @ Admiralty Park.

 

Again, thanks.

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Thanks.

 

Hope it turns out well. If not, we'll make the best of whatever alternative develops. Time to enjoy the ship (recently on Escape end of November first of December last year out of Miami) again, shows, food and drinks.

 

We can make Bermuda another time if we have to.

 

Hope it works out; CAVES and WAVES excursion, WildKat power boat excursion and private guide for Cliff Jumping @ Admiralty Park.

 

Again, thanks.

 

I hope it works out, last thing we want to do is Florida, GSC and Nassau

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We were on the Boston to Bermuda cruise that "split" Matthew and Nicole 2 years ago. They got us around Matthew (I got some amazing storm wall shots of Matthew) and into Bermuda early on Monday. They then had to pull us out of Bermuda early on Wednesday (around 8am) as Nicole was right behind us. It was a VERY rough ride out of there and through that entire day and Bermuda took a direct hit from Nicole. Personally, I would have preferred it if they got us out of there on Tuesday night, but no one but the Captain can really say for sure why we stayed as long as we did. We got out fine... though I saw a few people with stitches on that Thursday! We spent an additional day at sea instead and it was fine. As luck would have it (or not have it!) we too are on the cruise leaving out of NY for Bermuda this coming Sunday the 9th. *Sigh* Hoping for better results this time around. ;)

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We were on the Boston to Bermuda cruise that "split" Matthew and Nicole 2 years ago. They got us around Matthew (I got some amazing storm wall shots of Matthew) and into Bermuda early on Monday. They then had to pull us out of Bermuda early on Wednesday (around 8am) as Nicole was right behind us. It was a VERY rough ride out of there and through that entire day and Bermuda took a direct hit from Nicole. Personally, I would have preferred it if they got us out of there on Tuesday night, but no one but the Captain can really say for sure why we stayed as long as we did. We got out fine... though I saw a few people with stitches on that Thursday! We spent an additional day at sea instead and it was fine. As luck would have it (or not have it!) we too are on the cruise leaving out of NY for Bermuda this coming Sunday the 9th. *Sigh* Hoping for better results this time around. ;)

 

YIKES, another repeat experience. Starting to get that Stephen King movie chill. :o

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We go through this every year. No one knows where any storm is going to go a week away. In my experience, its always best to be in the cone 7 days out because 5 days later the cone moves away. Its very possible this storm will miss Bermuda completely.

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Willl NCLlet us know before we board ship if there is a change in course due to Florence?
Good question. In my experience they are very closed lipped about their plans. Two years ago they were saying there were no changes planned when we checked in but changed the itinerary just prior to the muster drill.

 

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Willl NCLlet us know before we board ship if there is a change in course due to Florence?

 

Good question. In my experience they are very closed lipped about their plans. Two years ago they were saying there were no changes planned when we checked in but changed the itinerary just prior to the muster drill.

 

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Agree with all of you pointing out a week is a long time for a storm and the path is far from certain. I have been studying the models and at this early time, most show a curve northward before reaching Bermuda. But that's far from certain. I was on that Breakaway sailing 2 years ago. So many people boarding said they called NCL or asked at check in and they "said we're going!" But there were not one, but TWO hurricanes, one passing between NYC and Bermuda, and one bearing down on Bermuda. What those people really heard was "We're still going" but not WHERE. They waited until we had all checked in and then announced we would wait an extra night before leaving to let the first storm pass, and then we were heading to.. yup: Port Canaveral, and Nassau, but not GSC as we no longer had the time to stop there. But the point is they don't have to say before you sail, and they may very well not decide until that day and not tell you until you board.

 

P.S. we had over a hundred people get off the ship and leave even though they were told there would be no refund!

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P.S. we had over a hundred people get off the ship and leave even though they were told there would be no refund!

 

I bet NCL didn't mind at all. Thats 100 less people to feed, win win for NCL Lol

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I bet NCL didn't mind at all. Thats 100 less people to feed, win win for NCL Lol

 

And we who sailed didn't need the complainers being miserable all week either! But it was funny to watch. I hung around Customer Service a little, then by the gangway, and watched even more leave, luggage in tow, from my balcony! They even had porters helping some of them!

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Were all who stayed offered any onboard credit to make up for lost itinerary? I had my HIgh School reunion on a cruise (in between Hurricane Frances and Ivan). We were all given the chance to cancel with refund or stay and receive an onboard credit. But then again, that was another cruise line.

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We go through this every year. No one knows where any storm is going to go a week away. In my experience, its always best to be in the cone 7 days out because 5 days later the cone moves away. Its very possible this storm will miss Bermuda completely.

 

Hope it doesn't impact.

 

However, fair to say at the least, if booked on our cruise fair to at least be concerned and watch.

 

I don't know if "we" go through this every year. Agreed, no one knows "with certainty" where any storm will go a week away. However, to ignore the forecast "range of paths" with certainty is not for all.

 

Hope it works out.

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Just a quick FYI.....

 

If any of you have booked and paid for excursions thru a third party (Non NCL) be sure you bring the contact info with you in the case you need to cancel. I have a boat booked and paid for for Friday and they have a 24 hour cancelation policy. Just in case NCL decides on Sunday we are not going to Bermuda. I'm giving this warning because on our last Bermuda cruise we were a day late. I ran into a number of people who had not canceled their excursions for the day and were charged the full amount. Just because the ship does not make it don't assume the company you are booking with will automatically cancel and refund your money.

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We're on Dawn to Bermuda in two days now. I cannot imagine stomping off the boat because the captain chose not to put us in danger. The WORST that can happen is that we spend seven days resting and drinking on board rather than harvesting and processing the food gardens. Not bad!

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Were all who stayed offered any onboard credit to make up for lost itinerary? I had my HIgh School reunion on a cruise (in between Hurricane Frances and Ivan). We were all given the chance to cancel with refund or stay and receive an onboard credit. But then again, that was another cruise line.

 

$100 of shipboard credit each. That's the reason I spent eighteen months going back and forth with their customer service department about.

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We're on Dawn to Bermuda in two days now. I cannot imagine stomping off the boat because the captain chose not to put us in danger. The WORST that can happen is that we spend seven days resting and drinking on board rather than harvesting and processing the food gardens. Not bad!
See you Friday!!

 

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Florence is taking an unfortunate wobble in today's updated path forecast, and it strengthened further, defying the models and forecasters, all of whom did not see it coming. The site I like to use for path studying has windfields and now shows Bermuda just at the edge of the 5 day path. I sure hope it finds a way to swizzle, and mean fizzle out. Note if the path and pace hold, we are looking at Bermuda being affected about September 12-13.

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So who's ready for Nassau? I know I am. Even if Flo doesn't hit Bermuda directly, the surrounding seas will not be fun.

 

I can recommend a lovely place with an outdoor terrace overlooking the waterfront in Nassau. Giant strong drinks for not much money and good food. I found it when we went to Nassau instead of hurricane-threatened Bermuda 2 years ago!

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I'm ready. As long as we don't sail into danger, I am going to have a fun cruise. I want Bermuda, but will be very happy with every other possible itinerary change. I've done them all and I love them all. The only itinerary I've never done is a cruise-to-nowhere. Since I've never been on The Escape, and it's quite large, that can be a destination in itself.

 

My famous last words are: A cruise is what you make of it.

 

Have fun everyone and stay safe.

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I am on the 9th sailing on Escape. I have been to Bermuda 7 times but just love the Island and would be disappointed if we don't make it but I am good for anywhere but that lousy Florida, Nassau and Great Stirrup Cay route. I have invested $9,100 for 3 cabins and would not feel I got my monies worth going to Florida etc.

 

People are packing for warm weather so hopefully they don't say well we are going to new England instead.

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I decided to book the Escape to Bermuda for mid-October, knowing full well that the height of hurricane season could be a factor. I decided that as long as I am on a cruise ship, I will be happy! I have the UBP, so I am good to go wherever! :p

 

I will probably be tracking storm activity as we get closer all the same. I am an information junkie.

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