Lingo Boingo Posted April 7, 2019 #101 Share Posted April 7, 2019 I really feel for RCL, broken ship plus 3 cruises cancelled (I was on the transatlantic, REALLY looking forward to that one). Yes, they have been very generous, already got my FCC and applied it to another cruise. However (am I greedy?) would like to have had my OBC credited to my next cruise, but apparently that is not to be. However, still a RCL fan and probably will always be (great entertainment, ships, etc). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volk904 Posted April 7, 2019 #102 Share Posted April 7, 2019 Royal has lots of transatlantic cruises and I doubt the others are sold out. Why not Just book another with your credit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted April 7, 2019 #103 Share Posted April 7, 2019 27 minutes ago, volk904 said: Royal has lots of transatlantic cruises and I doubt the others are sold out. Why not Just book another with your credit. They are definitely filling up, plus not all go to Barcelona. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare twangster Posted April 7, 2019 #104 Share Posted April 7, 2019 5 hours ago, wytygr8 said: It’s easy to do the right thing when someone else’s insurance is paying for it. Given that Royal owns the ship and 40% of the shipyard, plus they may be self insured, who is this "someone else's" insurance company? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fsjosh Posted April 7, 2019 #105 Share Posted April 7, 2019 33 minutes ago, twangster said: Given that Royal owns the ship and 40% of the shipyard, plus they may be self insured, who is this "someone else's" insurance company? Large companies like this are usually self insured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare steamboats Posted April 7, 2019 #106 Share Posted April 7, 2019 1 hour ago, volk904 said: Royal has lots of transatlantic cruises and I doubt the others are sold out. Why not Just book another with your credit. Maybe because the folks have flights to the US in two weeks and the other TA cruises are earlier (Jewel just arrived) or later? 😉 And maybe the folks are not retired and have to plan their vacation... steamboats 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare steamboats Posted April 7, 2019 #107 Share Posted April 7, 2019 @Thorben-Hendrik You should have received a new FCC in Euro covering the full price (including taxes & fees). That´s what I just read in a German FB group. As an explanation: Here in Europe the prices have to include everything (by law). So we don´t have any invoices showing port fees or taxes. Cabin price or cruise fare is the amount shown on the website - nothing added when you click "buy". steamboats 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorben-Hendrik Posted April 7, 2019 #108 Share Posted April 7, 2019 8 hours ago, John&LaLa said: Americans get points for every cruise. Then I should be fine!😀 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorben-Hendrik Posted April 7, 2019 #109 Share Posted April 7, 2019 5 hours ago, volk904 said: Royal has lots of transatlantic cruises and I doubt the others are sold out. Why not Just book another with your credit. All longer cruises in April are sold out!👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorben-Hendrik Posted April 7, 2019 #110 Share Posted April 7, 2019 4 hours ago, steamboats said: Maybe because the folks have flights to the US in two weeks and the other TA cruises are earlier (Jewel just arrived) or later? 😉 And maybe the folks are not retired and have to plan their vacation... steamboats Europeans do not plan their vacations...according to the Americans on this board......🙄😜 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorben-Hendrik Posted April 7, 2019 #111 Share Posted April 7, 2019 3 hours ago, steamboats said: @Thorben-Hendrik You should have received a new FCC in Euro covering the full price (including taxes & fees). That´s what I just read in a German FB group. As an explanation: Here in Europe the prices have to include everything (by law). So we don´t have any invoices showing port fees or taxes. Cabin price or cruise fare is the amount shown on the website - nothing added when you click "buy". steamboats Thank you - but I got my FCC in $ - taxes as I booked in the US....😱😇 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted April 7, 2019 #112 Share Posted April 7, 2019 6 hours ago, steamboats said: Maybe because the folks have flights to the US in two weeks and the other TA cruises are earlier (Jewel just arrived) or later? 😉 And maybe the folks are not retired and have to plan their vacation... steamboats You know sometimes retired people have to plan their vacations. 😉😇 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorben-Hendrik Posted April 7, 2019 #113 Share Posted April 7, 2019 12 minutes ago, John&LaLa said: You know sometimes retired people have to plan their vacations. 😉😇 They are always on vacation! 🙄👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare steamboats Posted April 7, 2019 #114 Share Posted April 7, 2019 5 hours ago, Thorben-Hendrik said: Thank you - but I got my FCC in $ - taxes as I booked in the US....😱😇 Then you´re lucked out! That´s why I do book in Germany as I do have German law then. steamboats 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorben-Hendrik Posted April 7, 2019 #115 Share Posted April 7, 2019 Just now, steamboats said: Then you´re lucked out! That´s why I do book in Germany as I do have German law then. steamboats I know US consumer laws are so bad.....😱🙄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare A&L_Ont Posted April 7, 2019 #116 Share Posted April 7, 2019 3 minutes ago, Thorben-Hendrik said: I know US consumer laws are so bad.....😱🙄 Then why did you book that way, possibly a cheaper price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorben-Hendrik Posted April 7, 2019 #117 Share Posted April 7, 2019 1 minute ago, A&L_Ont said: Then why did you book that way, possibly a cheaper price. That might be!😇 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare steamboats Posted April 7, 2019 #118 Share Posted April 7, 2019 4 minutes ago, A&L_Ont said: Then why did you book that way, possibly a cheaper price. You can´t have both... cheaper US price and German consumer protection laws... That´s what I always mention when someone is asking "can I book in the US"... If something´s going wrong you have to deal with US laws and not with German laws and the German call center can´t help you at all as they can´t even acess your booking. steamboats 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorben-Hendrik Posted April 7, 2019 #119 Share Posted April 7, 2019 13 minutes ago, steamboats said: You can´t have both... cheaper US price and German consumer protection laws... That´s what I always mention when someone is asking "can I book in the US"... If something´s going wrong you have to deal with US laws and not with German laws and the German call center can´t help you at all as they can´t even acess your booking. steamboats Absolutely agree!👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare vacationlover_mn Posted April 7, 2019 #120 Share Posted April 7, 2019 I am curious about 3 things- does RCI have insurance that will cover all of their costs/losses? What is the net cost/loss of these cancellations & the accident? How much did RCI lose because of this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volk904 Posted April 7, 2019 #121 Share Posted April 7, 2019 Interesting that Royal owns 40% of the Grand Bah. Ship yard. I had not heard that before. That said with a split partnership and the liabilities involved with working on cruise ships from all lines I tend to believe they were not totally self insured. I would also point out again the if Royal owns 40% it is time for them to push for a floating or regalar drydock large enough for the Oasis class and larger ships. Royal will soon have 5 and there is at least 5-6 similar or larger ships on order for other lines. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorben-Hendrik Posted April 7, 2019 #122 Share Posted April 7, 2019 3 hours ago, vacationlover_mn said: I am curious about 3 things- does RCI have insurance that will cover all of their costs/losses? What is the net cost/loss of these cancellations & the accident? How much did RCI lose because of this? RCI will do fine.....don't worry!🙄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare vacationlover_mn Posted April 7, 2019 #123 Share Posted April 7, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Thorben-Hendrik said: RCI will do fine.....don't worry!🙄 Wasn’t worried, just curious... I guess there is one thing I'm worried about... I hope they don’t cut any of their fall refurb plans!! I was really hoping to see a bunch of new features on Oasis in Feb... Edited April 7, 2019 by vacationlover_mn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ourusualbeach Posted April 7, 2019 #124 Share Posted April 7, 2019 5 hours ago, vacationlover_mn said: I am curious about 3 things- does RCI have insurance that will cover all of their costs/losses? What is the net cost/loss of these cancellations & the accident? How much did RCI lose because of this? This is from their annual filing. I will also post the link to the ring. Insurance details are on pages 14 and 15. They may have coverage for the physical damage however I doubt based on this that they have coverage for the cancelled cruises. “We do not carry business interruption insurance for our ships based on our evaluation of the risks involved and protective measures already in place, as compared to the cost of insurance.” http://app.quotemedia.com/data/downloadFiling?webmasterId=101533&ref=12730403&type=PDF&symbol=RCL&companyName=Royal+Caribbean+Cruises+Ltd.&formType=10-K&dateFiled=2019-02-22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare vacationlover_mn Posted April 7, 2019 #125 Share Posted April 7, 2019 Thx ourusualbeach! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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