The_Big_M Posted March 21, 2020 #26 Share Posted March 21, 2020 22 hours ago, NSWP said: I hate to say it but what a stuffup by Princess Cruise Line, permitting 2700 pax to disembark before the test results were known. The pax should have been held on board until results known. Now potentially there are a couple of thousand infected former Ruby passengers now walking around NSW and probably Australia or even gone overseas. They could be in your town, your street, your local club or café. Plus the crew still on board. A potential disaster. It has the media attention, big time. I don't think it's with PRincess. If the government give clearance to depart, Princess doesn't have any ability to hold on to the passengesr. There was a stuff up, but from what's reported it's not with Princess (unless e.g. they didn't tell the government at clearance). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MMDown Under Posted March 21, 2020 Author #27 Share Posted March 21, 2020 (edited) Tracking of just two American passengers returning home to US from Ruby Princess - one bussed to Sydney Airport (MFR) packed plane to San Francisco (no health screening) plane to Boston (no screening) Received email and phone call from NSW Health 2nd passenger (Brandee - NY) Qantas 73 to San Francisco empty plane to JFK Received an unidentified phone call which he didn't pick up. On research, it was an Australian phone number for callers outside Australia. This is just two examples of how quickly this virus can spread. NT Govt has just announced two extra people from Ruby Princess tested positive for the virus. Keep healthy everyone! Edited March 21, 2020 by MMDown Under Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Kev Posted March 21, 2020 #28 Share Posted March 21, 2020 BREAKING: Two more people have tested positive for coronavirus in the NT. The Heath Department has confirmed a Territory couple who disembarked from the Ruby Princess cruise ship in Sydney and flew to Darwin yesterday went straight into isolation and immediately underwent testing which confirmed the positive results. They will be admitted to the Royal Darwin Hospital today and remain in a stable condition. It brings the total number of cases in the Territory to five. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSWP Posted March 21, 2020 #29 Share Posted March 21, 2020 (edited) OK as I said earlier, we have 2 friends locally - local Probus Club members like us, who disembarked Ruby last week, they were told nothing re virus. They travelled home via motor coach from Sydney to Batemans Bay. Since then, on Friday arvo he got an E mail from NSW Health, telling him and his wife to quarantine at home and if they wanted to, go to a local virus testing facility at Moruya Hospital, which they did straight away. Their results will be available early next week. My friend is of the opinion the ship did know there were possible cases on board as the results were known only a few hours after disembarkation and testing allegedly takes a couple of days right? As I said before, a monumental stuff by one or more agencies. Personally I feel the number of positive results from the Ruby will increase in the near future. Edited March 21, 2020 by NSWP 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porky55 Posted March 21, 2020 #30 Share Posted March 21, 2020 (edited) “Personally I feel the number of positive results from the Ruby will increase in the near future.” You are probably right but would like you to be wrong about the results 🥺 Hope it turns out ok for your friends 🤔 Edited March 21, 2020 by Porky55 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MicCanberra Posted March 21, 2020 #31 Share Posted March 21, 2020 I fear it is going to get worse before it gets better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pushka Posted March 21, 2020 #32 Share Posted March 21, 2020 (edited) Three positive from Ruby in Tasmania. That makes five extra with the NT count. Princess has left a dreadful legacy. Edited March 21, 2020 by Pushka 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peacefulness Posted March 21, 2020 #33 Share Posted March 21, 2020 On 3/20/2020 at 4:04 PM, NSWP said: I hate to say it but what a stuffup by Princess Cruise Line, permitting 2700 pax to disembark before the test results were known. The pax should have been held on board until results known. Now potentially there are a couple of thousand infected former Ruby passengers now walking around NSW and probably Australia or even gone overseas. They could be in your town, your street, your local club or café. Plus the crew still on board. A potential disaster. It has the media attention, big time. Or panic buying at your local supermarket. Tania Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSWP Posted March 22, 2020 #34 Share Posted March 22, 2020 (edited) 13 hours ago, Pushka said: Three positive from Ruby in Tasmania. That makes five extra with the NT count. Princess has left a dreadful legacy. And the count from Ruby is just beginning and Ovation too.😬 Edited March 22, 2020 by NSWP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MicCanberra Posted March 22, 2020 #35 Share Posted March 22, 2020 Yes, Voyager and Solstice also had confirmed cases aboard, hey have all come in during he week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pushka Posted March 22, 2020 #36 Share Posted March 22, 2020 We all love cruises. But right now I hate them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSWP Posted March 22, 2020 #37 Share Posted March 22, 2020 1 hour ago, Pushka said: We all love cruises. But right now I hate them. We have retired from cruising, but not due to the virus as some of you know. We are still despondent. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MicCanberra Posted March 22, 2020 #38 Share Posted March 22, 2020 It will certainly be a strange new world when they start up again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare OzKiwiJJ Posted March 22, 2020 #39 Share Posted March 22, 2020 (edited) All those passengers would be required to self-isolate for 14 days, just like travellers arriving by air, so the issue probably isn't as bad as the media is trying to make out, assuming there aren't too many people who decide the self-isolation rule doesn't apply to them. Incidentally I haven't noticed the media trumpeting about all the people who arrived by air in the past month or so that tested positive to the virus shortly after they arrived in the country. That issue has been barely mentioned yet the majority of the current cases probably stem from those people. Edited March 22, 2020 by OzKiwiJJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MicCanberra Posted March 22, 2020 #40 Share Posted March 22, 2020 No or that they got off a plane with the virus before the quarantine period was implemented only, to get onto the cruise ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pushka Posted March 22, 2020 #41 Share Posted March 22, 2020 Except one of the US couples has flown from Sydney to Brisbane and back again trying to get out of Australia. 20% were American. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare OzKiwiJJ Posted March 22, 2020 #42 Share Posted March 22, 2020 16 minutes ago, Pushka said: Except one of the US couples has flown from Sydney to Brisbane and back again trying to get out of Australia. 20% were American. Wow, as many Americans as that! That does increase the risk somewhat, at least while they still remain in the country. Hopefully most of them left fairly quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pushka Posted March 22, 2020 #43 Share Posted March 22, 2020 1 hour ago, OzKiwiJJ said: Wow, as many Americans as that! That does increase the risk somewhat, at least while they still remain in the country. Hopefully most of them left fairly quickly. Hopefully on the first plane outta here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megsie Posted March 22, 2020 #44 Share Posted March 22, 2020 Ruby Princess count is now 26 positive cases. Probably more to come sadly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banzaii Posted March 22, 2020 #45 Share Posted March 22, 2020 Hard to see Princess brand surviving all this negative publicity. Does this all trace back to Diamond Princess and staff movements? The must be some reason why the vast majority of cruise aquired cases are Princess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MMDown Under Posted March 22, 2020 Author #46 Share Posted March 22, 2020 16 minutes ago, banzaii said: Hard to see Princess brand surviving all this negative publicity. Does this all trace back to Diamond Princess and staff movements? The must be some reason why the vast majority of cruise aquired cases are Princess. This is something Princess Management should be investigating, then reporting on so other cruise ships don't make the same mistakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pushka Posted March 22, 2020 #47 Share Posted March 22, 2020 (edited) I'm thinking it must be they are transferring crew between ships. I'd not set foot on a Princess ship now. Edited March 22, 2020 by Pushka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MicCanberra Posted March 22, 2020 #48 Share Posted March 22, 2020 9 hours ago, banzaii said: Hard to see Princess brand surviving all this negative publicity. Does this all trace back to Diamond Princess and staff movements? The must be some reason why the vast majority of cruise aquired cases are Princess. Royal have had cases on several ships as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MicCanberra Posted March 22, 2020 #49 Share Posted March 22, 2020 9 hours ago, Pushka said: I'm thinking it must be they are transferring crew between ships. I'd not set foot on a Princess ship now. I am giving all cruise ships a miss until May31st at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banzaii Posted March 22, 2020 #50 Share Posted March 22, 2020 39 minutes ago, MicCanberra said: Royal have had cases on several ships as well. Yes but Rod aside, nowhere near the negative media coverage. I think the cruise industry as a whole will have an uphill battle to recover. Some people will remember cruise ship, some will remember diamonds and rubies, most will remember Princess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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