What CDC Grading System Does & Doesn’t Mean For Cruise Ships

[sushitex]

...and Allure has just started to sail out of the Engish Channel, with the projected arrival date in Coco Cay, Bahamas,  on January 8th. 

Edited December 15, 2020 by sushitex

[Biker19]

CCL added a bunch of ships across 3 brands.

[Biker19]

Carnival has been adding more ships, though quite a few are in the red:

 

Crew Disembarkations through Commercial Travel | CDC

 

Other than fairly frequent updates to ship coloring, not much has changed on the CDC site with respect to return to cruising since early Nov.

[Biker19]

For the first time in a long time, all ships listed are in the green. Still nothing new on the technical instructions since last year.

[Biker19]

Rhapsody dropped to yellow. I don't see any update to the technical instructions based on the letter to the lines about vaccinations.

 

This was the only change last month:

 

April 2, 2021

Added the Routine COVID-19 Laboratory Screening Testing of All Crew Section, the Procedures for Embarking Contractors Overnight and Visitors Overnight Section, and the Procedures for Embarking Day Contractors and Day Visitors Section. Clarified laboratory parameters and testing options. Updated surveillance reporting requirement to daily, revised the color-coding system, and COVID-19-like illness definition.

Edited May 5, 2021 by Biker19

[Biker19]

Sometime in the recent past a fourth color code was added to mix - explanation here:

 

Technical Instructions for Mitigation of COVID-19 Among Cruise Ship Crew | Quarantine | CDC

 

Freedom dropped to Yellow while Rhapsody is now Orange.

[smokeybandit]

8 hours ago, Biker19 said:

Sometime in the recent past a fourth color code was added to mix - explanation here:

 

Technical Instructions for Mitigation of COVID-19 Among Cruise Ship Crew | Quarantine | CDC

 

Freedom dropped to Yellow while Rhapsody is now Orange.

 

It's hilarious that you can be moved to Orange or Yellow with zero covid cases. Just people with a cold or the flu.

[BecciBoo]

On 7/29/2020 at 5:59 AM, Biker19 said:

It looks like with yesterday's update a number of RCI ships (Freedom, Liberty, Mariner, Oasis, Rhapsody and Symphony) have gotten a full green Yes on CDC's crew charges via commercial means.

 

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/travelers/crew-disembarkations-commercial-travel.html

I hope Allure is in there, all those ships you mentioned are just floating out around CoCo Cay this morning, waiting.....just a few hrs away.  Oops must 've done something wrong with my Paint.

Edited May 8, 2021 by BecciBoo

[Biker19]

47 minutes ago, BecciBoo said:

I hope Allure is in there, all those ships you mentioned are just floating out around CoCo Cay this morning, waiting.

The list has grown since that post, and, yes, most RCI ships, including Allure are hanging out around CocoCay.

[smokeybandit]

Interesting (though expected due to schedules) that Adventure and Vision are not on the list. 

Edited May 8, 2021 by smokeybandit

[broberts]

2 hours ago, smokeybandit said:

 

It's hilarious that you can be moved to Orange or Yellow with zero covid cases. Just people with a cold or the flu.

 

And it's sad people find common sense hilarious.

[smokeybandit]

7 minutes ago, broberts said:

 

And it's sad people find common sense hilarious.

What's the common sense in having your ship fall out of compliance because someone has a cold?

[Ocean Boy]

15 minutes ago, smokeybandit said:

What's the common sense in having your ship fall out of compliance because someone has a cold?

There is no common sense. There doesn't seem to be much science involved either.

[keyboardjunkie]

Seeing this chart makes me very hopeful.  The fact the Royal has mostly 'green' ships is a testament to their efforts to resume cruising ASAP.

 

We are ready!

[broberts]

16 minutes ago, smokeybandit said:

What's the common sense in having your ship fall out of compliance because someone has a cold?

 

Read the link again. The status only changes if there is some doubt about the actual disease presenting. From the link "...One or more cases of COVID-19-like illness with negative or repeatedly inconclusive/invalid (i.e., never able to register a positive or negative result) NAAT results for COVID-19 within the past 14-days (with no other laboratory-confirmed respiratory pathogens (e.g., influenza, RSV, Legionella, Streptococcal pharyngitis))...".

 

I take it you think common sense would suggest letting an infection spread until one is able to confirm COVID-19?

[SherriZ366]

On 5/8/2021 at 8:04 AM, BecciBoo said:

I hope Allure is in there, all those ships you mentioned are just floating out around CoCo Cay this morning, waiting.....just a few hrs away.  Oops must 've done something wrong with my Paint.

Allure is in the what I call the "pod"  Right now, she is sailing into the Port of Miami for crew vaccinations.  She comes in at 5 AM and leaves at 6 PM.  She is also categorized as Green by the CDC

[smokeybandit]

On 5/8/2021 at 8:54 AM, broberts said:

 

Read the link again. The status only changes if there is some doubt about the actual disease presenting. From the link "...One or more cases of COVID-19-like illness with negative or repeatedly inconclusive/invalid (i.e., never able to register a positive or negative result) NAAT results for COVID-19 within the past 14-days (with no other laboratory-confirmed respiratory pathogens (e.g., influenza, RSV, Legionella, Streptococcal pharyngitis))...".

 

I take it you think common sense would suggest letting an infection spread until one is able to confirm COVID-19?

 

Let it spread? Yeah because a sick crew member, no matter the illness, on a ship is just going to be allowed to gallivant around the ship licking everyone's doorknobs.

[Biker19]

Symphony also dropped to Orange.

[Biker19]

Looks like the CDC web site updates are almost daily now - Freedom is green again.

[Biker19]

Allure and Grandeur dropped to orange.

[smokeybandit]

WIth the increase in cold viruses as covid wanes, you're going to see more ships dropping from green.

[mauraoel]

Sorry I didn't read the whole thread.. Could dropping from green to orange mean that they have added crew members that need to pass the protocols before they can go back to green?

Edited May 15, 2021 by mauraoel
Auto correct sucks.

[Biker19]

29 minutes ago, mauraoel said:

Sorry I didn't read the whole thread.. Could dropping from green to orange mean that they have added crew members that need to pass the protocols before they can go back to green?

All of the color codes are explained in detail on the CDC web site.

[Biker19]

While no colors changed for RCI ships, I did notice the absence of Odyssey, which RCI is supposed to try to sail out of Florida soon. For context, while still in Europe (due to sail her TA to Florida at the end of this week), CCL added Mardi Gras and is provisionally green.

[Biker19]

Adventure and Mariner dropped all the way to red, while Allure, Brilliance, and Freedom are orange.