CSHS1979 Posted August 11, 2020 #1251 Share Posted August 11, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Ocean Boy said: The Crown is a much better place for the DL than the old cigar room location. Granted, but Izumi won out. Star Lounge makes a good overflow, so that's good. VCL can be a problem because of limited elevator access Edited August 11, 2020 by CSHS1979 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milwaukee Eight Posted August 11, 2020 #1252 Share Posted August 11, 2020 8 minutes ago, CSHS1979 said: Granted, but Izumi won out. Star Lounge makes a good overflow, so that's good. VCL can be a problem because of limited elevator access Shut down elevators and using stairs would eliminate any crowding issues in the Loyalty Lounges. 😇 M8 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSHS1979 Posted August 11, 2020 #1253 Share Posted August 11, 2020 8 minutes ago, Milwaukee Eight said: Shut down elevators and using stairs would eliminate any crowding issues in the Loyalty Lounges. 😇 M8 Definitely gives a plus to the lower deck lounges 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milwaukee Eight Posted August 11, 2020 #1254 Share Posted August 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, CSHS1979 said: Definitely gives a plus to the lower deck lounges Depends on what deck ones cabin is located. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapau27 Posted August 11, 2020 Author #1255 Share Posted August 11, 2020 53 minutes ago, CSHS1979 said: Izumi is the issue. So SL got the old DL, and DL moved ro cigar room. Navigator and Voyager are similar. Adventure and Mariner kept the old DL location I wasn't aware Explorer had any sort of Amp because in October 2019 the DL and CL were where I said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSHS1979 Posted August 11, 2020 #1256 Share Posted August 11, 2020 (edited) 53 minutes ago, grapau27 said: I wasn't aware Explorer had any sort of Amp because in October 2019 the DL and CL were where I said. Well, I'm just going by whst was mentioned and completed on Navigator and Voyager. But even I could move the DL sign to the old CL, and make a new SL sign for deck 14. Problem solved Edited August 11, 2020 by CSHS1979 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapau27 Posted August 11, 2020 Author #1257 Share Posted August 11, 2020 9 minutes ago, CSHS1979 said: Well, I'm just going by whstvwas mentioned snd completed on Navigator and Voyager. But even I could move the DL sign to the old CL, and make a new SL sign for deck 14. Problem solved Probably would have happened if covid19 hadn't stopped everything. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikew0805 Posted August 11, 2020 #1258 Share Posted August 11, 2020 On 7/21/2020 at 3:32 PM, cruisegirl1 said: Earned what as D+? The same benefits as someone paying 10 times the cost a standard cabin or the same benefits as one who has over 700 cruise points ( almost 6 times what is needed for D+)? D+ is 180 points, a very nice show of loyalty and rewarded with a variety of generous benefits, but not worthy of what suite and Pinnacle guests should receive. I don't see the issue with using a DL rather than a CL? Who cares what it is called? What have you done on ships with only a suite lounge and diamond lounge? If there is no CL what choice is there. If the lounge name is so important, book a suite, sail enough to reach the Pinnacle category. Other wise, be happy with a DL. M Just to be clear... it's 3.8 times, not almost 6 times. Answer to OP - D+ should have access to CL only, not SL. SL should remain suites and Pinnacle. In reality, I would rather be able to use the three drink vouchers (any time during day/night including specialty coffee) and not have access to any lounge. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapau27 Posted August 11, 2020 Author #1259 Share Posted August 11, 2020 6 minutes ago, Mikew0805 said: Just to be clear... it's 3.8 times, not almost 6 times. Answer to OP - D+ should have access to CL only, not SL. SL should remain suites and Pinnacle. In reality, I would rather be able to use the three drink vouchers (any time during day/night including specialty coffee) and not have access to any lounge CL are being phased out now and being replaced as SL. When cruising returns with social distancing all the lounges are going to be different. I suspect D and D+ will have free drinks vouchers,Pins have the DL and Suite Guests the SL. Graham 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikew0805 Posted August 11, 2020 #1260 Share Posted August 11, 2020 15 minutes ago, grapau27 said: CL are being phased out now and being replaced as SL. When cruising returns with social distancing all the lounges are going to be different. I suspect D and D+ will have free drinks vouchers,Pins have the DL and Suite Guests the SL. Graham Phased out? Well yeah but they are still putting em on new builds. I couldn't care less about the lounges (minus the appetizers) and wish the drink vouchers would be all day and include coffee. It's really moot anyway, as I drink for free all I want in the casino, but the casino does not have coffee!! They would get more money out of me if they had espresso drinks. Alcohol just makes me tired, and uninterested in gambling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapau27 Posted August 11, 2020 Author #1261 Share Posted August 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, Mikew0805 said: Phased out? Well yeah but they are still putting em on new builds. I couldn't care less about the lounges (minus the appetizers) and wish the drink vouchers would be all day and include coffee. It's really moot anyway, as I drink for free all I want in the casino, but the casino does not have coffee!! They would get more money out of me if they had espresso drinks. Alcohol just makes me tired, and uninterested in gambling. They are changing the Concierge name to Suite Lounge on all new builds and on the amps on Independence and Freedom etc. I like to call in for a coffee or 2 during the day as my coffee is a Cappuccino with a double espresso added when I make my own so a good reason I like to call in to either DL or CL Coffee in the Windjammer and Cafe Promenade is not very nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikew0805 Posted August 11, 2020 #1262 Share Posted August 11, 2020 1 minute ago, grapau27 said: They are changing the Concierge name to Suite Lounge on all new builds and on the amps on Independence and Freedom etc. I like to call in for a coffee or 2 during the day as my coffee is a Cappuccino with a double espresso added when I make my own so a good reason I like to call in to either DL or CL Coffee in the Windjammer and Cafe Promenade is not very nice. That is a nice way of putting it. LOL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikew0805 Posted August 11, 2020 #1263 Share Posted August 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, grapau27 said: They are changing the Concierge name to Suite Lounge on all new builds and on the amps on Independence and Freedom etc. I like to call in for a coffee or 2 during the day as my coffee is a Cappuccino with a double espresso added when I make my own so a good reason I like to call in to either DL or CL Coffee in the Windjammer and Cafe Promenade is not very nice. They have Odyssey's listed as Concierge Club, not Suite lounge. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFerrington Posted August 11, 2020 #1264 Share Posted August 11, 2020 Every once in a while I can get a server to bring me coffee in the casino and only once have I ever gotten a cappuccino. No doubt, they had to go somewhere to get it, but I was very grateful to get it !! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milwaukee Eight Posted August 11, 2020 #1265 Share Posted August 11, 2020 (edited) 23 minutes ago, grapau27 said: They are changing the Concierge name to Suite Lounge on all new builds and on the amps on Independence and Freedom etc Pretty sure the CL on Indy and Freedom are now cabins and not a SL. If a ship is built without a CL, how can they change the name? M8 Edited August 11, 2020 by Milwaukee Eight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milwaukee Eight Posted August 11, 2020 #1266 Share Posted August 11, 2020 28 minutes ago, Mikew0805 said: They have Odyssey's listed as Concierge Club, not Suite lounge. Yep but wait and see what the final product becomes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapau27 Posted August 11, 2020 Author #1267 Share Posted August 11, 2020 30 minutes ago, Mikew0805 said: They have Odyssey's listed as Concierge Club, not Suite lounge. Possibly a mistake because pre covid19 Royal were stopping D+ entering the CL and changing to SL as D+ were never given admittance by loyalty alone to a SL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapau27 Posted August 11, 2020 Author #1268 Share Posted August 11, 2020 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Milwaukee Eight said: Pretty sure the CL on Indy and Freedom are now cabins and not a SL. If a ship is built without a CL, how can they change the name? M8 Yes they put inside cabins there on deck 10 on Freedom and Independence and made a SL in the VCL on the opposite side to the DL. Edited August 11, 2020 by grapau27 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisegirl1 Posted August 11, 2020 #1269 Share Posted August 11, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, grapau27 said: CL are being phased out now and being replaced as SL. When cruising returns with social distancing all the lounges are going to be different. I suspect D and D+ will have free drinks vouchers,Pins have the DL and Suite Guests the SL. Graham That would be great, On our last cruise there were less than 20 P. Cruise last summer had 8. Considering those who don't utilize the lounge, those who may be traveling with others who don't have access, those who have other plans, that should make for easy social distancing. Seems it might be easier to social distance in the (mostly empty) lounges than anywhere on the ship. Heck, I may event start having my evening drink there there! The numbers may be even lower if a Pinnacle is also in a suite. M Edited August 11, 2020 by cruisegirl1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milwaukee Eight Posted August 11, 2020 #1270 Share Posted August 11, 2020 12 minutes ago, cruisegirl1 said: That would be great, On our last cruise there were less than 20 P. Cruise last summer had 8. Considering those who don't utilize the lounge, those who may be traveling with others who don't have access, those who have other plans, that should make for easy social distancing. Seems it might be easier to social distance in the (mostly empty) lounges than anywhere on the ship. Heck, I may event start having my evening drink there there! The numbers may be even lower if a Pinnacle is also in a suite. M Seldom do most Pinnacles cruise during the high volume sailings like Summer, Spring Break and some holidays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davekathy Posted August 12, 2020 #1271 Share Posted August 12, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, Milwaukee Eight said: Pretty sure the CL on Indy and Freedom are now cabins and not a SL. If a ship is built without a CL, how can they change the name? M8 The old CL (deck 10) on the Freedom class ships was converted into inside cabins. The Seven Hearts and Cloud Nine (deck 14) was converted into the SL. No longer a CL on Freedom, Liberty and Independence. We preferred the DL over the CL on the Liberty and Freedom. Edited August 12, 2020 by davekathy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milwaukee Eight Posted August 12, 2020 #1272 Share Posted August 12, 2020 5 minutes ago, davekathy said: The old CL (deck 10) on the Freedom class ships was converted into inside cabins. The Seven Hearts and Cloud Nine (deck 14) was converted into the SL. No longer a CL on Freedom, Liberty and Independence. We preferred the DL over the CL on the Liberty and Freedom. Get that. The CL on Indy and Freedom were converted into cabins. It was not converted or renamed a SL. 😇 M8 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davekathy Posted August 12, 2020 #1273 Share Posted August 12, 2020 11 minutes ago, Milwaukee Eight said: Get that. The CL on Indy and Freedom were converted into cabins. It was not converted or renamed a SL. 😇 M8 Got it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisegirl1 Posted August 12, 2020 #1274 Share Posted August 12, 2020 3 hours ago, Milwaukee Eight said: Seldom do most Pinnacles cruise during the high volume sailings like Summer, Spring Break and some holidays. Not sure what your comment has to do with CL, small groups of Pinnacles or Pinnacles who also sail in a suite. Pinnacles sail during summer, spring break and often on Christmas and/or NYE I know this as a fact! m 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yogimax Posted August 12, 2020 #1275 Share Posted August 12, 2020 6 hours ago, grapau27 said: I like to call in for a coffee or 2 during the day as my coffee is a Cappuccino with a double espresso added when I make my own so a good reason I like to call in to either DL or CL Coffee in the Windjammer and Cafe Promenade is not very nice. Cappuccino with a double espresso. I like it! I will definitely try it if we have access to a lounge machine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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