sail7seas Posted February 15, 2006 #1 Share Posted February 15, 2006 May sound like a silly question, but I have noticed that some people say they cruised 'in' a ship to wherever........while others says, they sailed "on" a ship. Which is it? Is there a correct and incorrect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LolaWiz Posted February 15, 2006 #2 Share Posted February 15, 2006 i always have said "on the XXXdam" . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K&RCurt Posted February 15, 2006 #3 Share Posted February 15, 2006 Good question S7S. This reminds me of an old George Carlin routine. "Pepole say they are getting ON the plane...."*@" them, I'm getting IN the plane...Let the stupid daredevils get ON the plane!" LOL I guess technically unless you are out on deck you are "In" the ship. I don't think it matters which term you use unless you are a stickler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashdog_1 Posted February 15, 2006 #4 Share Posted February 15, 2006 And what ever happened to "permission to come aboard" with the response, "permission granted." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Druke I Posted February 15, 2006 #5 Share Posted February 15, 2006 Many oddities in the English language. My dad was a Brit, and he certinly spoke differenly than those of us born in CA. Just look at the regional differences here in the US; sometimes difficult for those of us in the West to understand some of the New Englanders, or someone from the Deep South. My adult children, also raised in California, were taught many different rules of English than I had been taught. It is a constantly changing, evolving language. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sail7seas Posted February 15, 2006 Author #6 Share Posted February 15, 2006 Chuckling ...:) :) .....went the same way as forward/aft; port/starboard. I always get a kick out of it when, at the Mariners' Parties, the Captains say that by the time a passenger has their '25 day pin', they are expected to know port from starboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babyher Posted February 15, 2006 #7 Share Posted February 15, 2006 I don't know which is the proper Queens English way to say it, but being "on" board or while we were "on" Maasdam sounds right to me :) At least that is what I always say it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randyk47 Posted February 15, 2006 #8 Share Posted February 15, 2006 Hmm.....interesting. I've always used "on" for ships, planes, and trains....but I've always been "in" my car. :) Seems to me I somehow connect the usage with the idea of boarding. You board a ship, plane or train but I never think of boarding a car. English is interesting........now if we could just teach HAL the difference between deluxe and superior. :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fllcruiser Posted February 15, 2006 #9 Share Posted February 15, 2006 I say on the ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevNeal Posted February 15, 2006 #10 Share Posted February 15, 2006 I say "On the ship." As for: And what ever happened to "permission to come aboard" with the response, "permission granted." That's a good question. I still sometimes ask it ... and the response, through a cocky grin, is often "Permission granted, sir." No salute. No ... check that ... a Dutch officer once actually did salute me when, as I was waiting to enter the ship at the top of the stairs post-tendering, I mumbled "Permission to come aboard, sir?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevNeal Posted February 15, 2006 #11 Share Posted February 15, 2006 In Science Fiction it's becoming common to hear "inboard" and "in" for space craft. I understand that it comes from NASA's usage relative to Shuttle operations and the Space Station. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lougee1043 Posted February 15, 2006 #12 Share Posted February 15, 2006 heres my take on it -- i go cruising by ship - when i board i am on a ship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBCall Posted February 15, 2006 #13 Share Posted February 15, 2006 I would tend to say on the ship or on board the ship. But the question got me wondering... Are we posting on a message board or in a message board? ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kakalina Posted February 15, 2006 #14 Share Posted February 15, 2006 Great question! It always seemed to me that if one goes aboard a ship, and one is on board a ship, then on a ship would be appropriate usage. Trisha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashdog_1 Posted February 15, 2006 #15 Share Posted February 15, 2006 Hmm.....interesting. I've always used "on" for ships, planes, and trains....but I've always been "in" my car. :) Seems to me I somehow connect the usage with the idea of boarding. You board a ship, plane or train but I never think of boarding a car. English is interesting........now if we could just teach HAL the difference between deluxe and superior. :rolleyes: Could it have something to do with "leaving land" to go "on the sea" therefore on board.Same with a plane which will take you off land and into the air. Uh oh, I said in to. A car doesn't leave land, so we say we are in a car. ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randyk47 Posted February 15, 2006 #16 Share Posted February 15, 2006 You almost had me convinced until I remember the train.....you board a train and most folks....though certainly not all....say they're "on" the train. And how about a bus? Until you all made me paranoid I would have said "I going to get on the bus." Neither leave the ground....hopefully. Now I'm so confused!!!! :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fridayeyes Posted February 16, 2006 #17 Share Posted February 16, 2006 Hmm, I walk on the deck, and I sail on the ship, but I go in my cabin and luggage is kept in the hold. I get on a plane, a train, a bus, a bicycle or a horse, but I get in a car or a taxi. I get in an elevator, but on an escalator. Interesting. :) Friday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
localady Posted February 16, 2006 #18 Share Posted February 16, 2006 Doesn't matter to this old crazy bag lady if it's On or In, just as long as I am On/In the Dam Ship!!!;) :D :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDHALFAN Posted February 16, 2006 #19 Share Posted February 16, 2006 I always say on since I am on board a ship. Now, I know it's not in answer to Sail's question, what drives me absolutely crazy is when people refer to a ship as a boat. If you can put a boat on it then it's a ship. Sorry - it just drives me nuts! (You would think that I would have more to worry about:D ). Valerie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krazy Kruizers Posted February 16, 2006 #20 Share Posted February 16, 2006 I have always said that "I" or "WE" are "On" the ship. "In" the ship??? Just doesn't sound right to me - but whom am I to judge what people say?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustaRoo Posted February 16, 2006 #21 Share Posted February 16, 2006 what drives me absolutely crazy is when people refer to a ship as a boat. If you can put a boat on it then it's a ship With apologies for this off-topic response...(though I do say on board, on the ship, on the plane but always in the car) Valerie, one of the best lines I've heard/read on this board is the Captain's response, 'The boat is what you get into when the ship is going down!':D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serendipity1499 Posted February 16, 2006 #22 Share Posted February 16, 2006 I always say on since I am on board a ship. Now, I know it's not in answer to Sail's question, what drives me absolutely crazy is when people refer to a ship as a boat. If you can put a boat on it then it's a ship. Sorry - it just drives me nuts! (You would think that I would have more to worry about:D ). Valerie This also is one of my pet peeves..I hate it when my DH calls our ship a boat..He should know better.. However, when you put a boat on another boat it's not always a ship.. For instance: The "Mississippi Queen" is a boat & carries life boats, The canal boats of Europe are boats, A sailboat or cabin cruiser which might carry a dinghy/boat (rubber, hard, hand-powered or motor driven) is not necessarily a ship..It's still a boat.. I've always been taught that a boat is usually considered an inland vessel..A ship is a large ocean going vessel,& a submarine is a boat, not a ship,even though it can carry small boats onboard... I would bet that Prinsendam could give us a much better explanation.. Go figure, no wonder the English language is so difficult to learn for non-English speaking people! I usually say I'm on a ship, on our boat, on a train or on a plane..But I'm in my car.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noblepa Posted February 16, 2006 #23 Share Posted February 16, 2006 I think that saying you are "In" a ship is a correct, but somewhat archaic term. I believe that one of the traditional blessings upon launching a ship is "May God bless this ship and all who sail **IN** her" (emphasis added). ...but I could be wrong... Paul Noble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhannah Posted February 16, 2006 #24 Share Posted February 16, 2006 On. Short for onboard. Definitely! ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDHALFAN Posted February 16, 2006 #25 Share Posted February 16, 2006 I think that saying you are "In" a ship is a correct, but somewhat archaic term. I believe that one of the traditional blessings upon launching a ship is "May God bless this ship and all who sail **IN** her" (emphasis added). ...but I could be wrong... Paul Noble Hi Paul, I believe the blessing is "God bless this ship and all who sail ON her". But then I could be wrong - wouldn't be the first time this year (maybe the second time?:D) Serendipity, The Mississippi Queen is a RiverBOAT, not a cruiseship. The boats that navigate the rivers are all known as boats. They are a great deal smaller than the current cruiseliners. I am really looking forward to my first Riverboat cruise this coming August from Aix en Provence to Chalon sur Saone, and then on to Paris for a couple of days. I have heard nothing but praise for the Riverboats from friends who have previously sailed on them. As far as submarines go - you are 100% correct. My late husband spent 14 years aboard submarines and then taught anti-submarine warfare ("ours" not "theirs") and he and his shipmates always referred to their Sub as their boat, much to the chagrine of the Surface Force who were so proud of their ships, and rightly so. I love your user name - have always loved the Serendipity in my life. Valerie:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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