Pinnacles back to Suite lounges Mar. 15 and other questions

[twangster]

18 minutes ago, Cigar King said:

I obviously don't care what the space is called.  As you say, it's just a name.

This is my entire concern.  The number of suite guests is somewhat a finite number.  The number of C&A members with status can vary widely depending on ship and cruise.  The lounges simply do not have the capacity to deal with numbers in excess of the suite guests and a smaller number of those with status.  

 

If Royal wants to highlight one of the perks I pay for as this lounge, then I expect it to be reasonably available.  I'm willing to see how this shakes out.  Frankly, I'd like to see a statement from Royal to their suite guests saying how they intend to establish and protect the "desired capacity."  I'm not convinced that Royal will be able to allow access on cruises with lower numbers of Pinnacles and restrict them on cruises when they are higher.  I am prepared to be amazed though.

 

 

They highlight it as a reason to climb the ladder.  With the carrot dangled, they can't yank it away.  

 

A lot of suites are from casino comps.  Better to force those folks out of the SL and back into the casino.  🙂. I'm kidding!  

[island lady]

1 hour ago, John&LaLa said:

 

So there is still an approved list for off hours?

 

What would you like in invent?  😉 

[njkruzer]

As a D+ who enjoyed the CL on Anthem and booked a cabin near it, I was teed off when heard we could no longer use CL.   Understood during covid but want back in.  Oh well. Next Anthem cruise until TA in October.   On Jewel in April I expect we'll be back in D lounge.  Time will tell.

[island lady]

37 minutes ago, Cigar King said:

I obviously don't care what the space is called.  As you say, it's just a name.

This is my entire concern.  The number of suite guests is somewhat a finite number.  The number of C&A members with status can vary widely depending on ship and cruise.  The lounges simply do not have the capacity to deal with numbers in excess of the suite guests and a smaller number of those with status.  

 

If Royal wants to highlight one of the perks I pay for as this lounge, then I expect it to be reasonably available.  I'm willing to see how this shakes out.  Frankly, I'd like to see a statement from Royal to their suite guests saying how they intend to establish and protect the "desired capacity."  I'm not convinced that Royal will be able to allow access on cruises with lower numbers of Pinnacles and restrict them on cruises when they are higher.  I am prepared to be amazed though.

 

 

Would you like to hazard a guess as to how many of us Pesky Pinnacles actually sail in full suites.  If you were to strike up a conversation with me...not wearing a pin...would you be horrified if you found out I was a Pinnacle?  😉 

[smokeybandit]

I think suite guests should approve or disapprove which pinnacles may enter the suite lounge after a gladiator-style fight

 

[John&LaLa]

18 minutes ago, island lady said:

 

What would you like in invent?  😉 

 

Beach Kite and Tisdale of course😉🤣🤣

 

I'm afraid this may only be a benefit to the LMP's

Edited February 28, 2022 by John&LaLa

[island lady]

7 minutes ago, smokeybandit said:

I think suite guests should approve or disapprove which pinnacles may enter the suite lounge after a gladiator-style fight

 

 

And if you are a Pinnacle IN a suite....guess who will say "Et Tu Brute"   😄 😄 

[John&LaLa]

Does anyone have a copy of the old DL/SL drink list?

[island lady]

4 minutes ago, John&LaLa said:

 

Beach Kite and Tisdale of course😉🤣🤣

 

I'm afraid this may only be a benefit to the LMP's

 

😄 😄 😄 

[island lady]

1 minute ago, John&LaLa said:

Does anyone have a copy of the old DL/SL drink list?

 

Ummm...I was too saturated to notice?  😉 

[Lady Hudson]

I like the statement put out by Royal.  I understand the need for, on some cruises, limiting the number of Pins in the lounge.  Sounds like a good plan to me.  On a side note — I will love being able to sit in the Anthem suite lounge again mid morning until lunch.  Katherine 

[twangster]

17 minutes ago, smokeybandit said:

I think suite guests should approve or disapprove which pinnacles may enter the suite lounge after a gladiator-style fight

 

 

Kind of fits with the Ides of March theme...

[John&LaLa]

2 minutes ago, Lady Hudson said:

I like the statement put out by Royal.  I understand the need for, on some cruises, limiting the number of Pins in the lounge.  Sounds like a good plan to me.  On a side note — I will love being able to sit in the Anthem suite lounge again mid morning until lunch.  Katherine 

 

Never sailed Anthem, but on Odyssey, I think we had 70 Pins. About the same or more for all of our Oasis Class sailings these past several months. That's a lot of stress on the SL

[twangster]

3 minutes ago, John&LaLa said:

 

Never sailed Anthem, but on Odyssey, I think we had 70 Pins. About the same or more for all of our Oasis Class sailings these past several months. That's a lot of stress on the SL

 

The SL on Q class is quite generous especially when they don't block half of it for distancing.  If you took the PL space they used in the Music Hall you could put at least three of those into the SL space.  If one of those could manage 70 pins I think the entire SL space could handle the load.  It's not like every pin uses it and all at the same time.

 

The concierge in the CL(SL) on Ovation in Australia told me they use 90 D+ as the threshold to ban D+ from the CL on Ovation.  She didn't have Pin on her radar screen back then, it was the D+ that was the focus.

[suzyluvs2cruise]

We recently sailed on Navigator in a Suite. The interior part of the SL, during Happy Hour, had maybe a couple of empty seats.....with only 2 seats marked for Social Distancing....and they were by the Concierge desk. I'm curious on a ship with that size lounge what the "magic #" will be to allow Ps access. I guess I'll find out as we're sailing again Mar 25. 

[twangster]

If I recall the highest Pin counts on my Odyssey cruises were in the high eighties.  The most I ever saw in the PL at the same time was about 20 Pins and that was only because Mario was holding court.  Most of the time there were a dozen or fewer Pins in the PL.    

Edited February 28, 2022 by twangster

[smokeybandit]

41 minutes ago, island lady said:

 

And if you are a Pinnacle IN a suite....guess who will say "Et Tu Brute"   😄 😄 

In that case you have to pick a side. 

[ScubaCat3]

59 minutes ago, John&LaLa said:

Does anyone have a copy of the old DL/SL drink list?

@John&LaLa  Is this what you are looking for?

 

Edited March 1, 2022 by ScubaCat3

[John&LaLa]

49 minutes ago, twangster said:

If I recall the highest Pin counts on my Odyssey cruises were in the high eighties.  The most I ever saw in the PL at the same time was about 20 Pins and that was only because Mario was holding court.  Most of the time there were a dozen or fewer Pins in the PL.    

 

The SL will draw a lot more Pins than Music Hall did. Especially if they go back to unlimited drinks like Suite guests are enjoying

[Cigar King]

2 hours ago, twangster said:

They highlight it as a reason to climb the ladder.  With the carrot dangled, they can't yank it away.  

I'm guessing the Diamonds who no longer have access to the concierge lounge would love to know this.

[smokeybandit]

49 minutes ago, ScubaCat3 said:

@John&LaLa  Is this what you are looking for?

 

I remember when they added Glenfiddich to the menu.  The whiskey options immediately went from terrible to mediocre

[topnole]

1 hour ago, twangster said:

 

The SL on Q class is quite generous especially when they don't block half of it for distancing.  If you took the PL space they used in the Music Hall you could put at least three of those into the SL space.  If one of those could manage 70 pins I think the entire SL space could handle the load.  It's not like every pin uses it and all at the same time.

 

The concierge in the CL(SL) on Ovation in Australia told me they use 90 D+ as the threshold to ban D+ from the CL on Ovation.  She didn't have Pin on her radar screen back then, it was the D+ that was the focus.

Well.  On a TA with 300 pins it sure gets crowded fast.  The poor staff was crushed for 13 days straight.  And it made for a horrible service experience for every suite guest who used the SL.  The long line for the concierge was filled with pins making all kinds of requests I’ve never imagined the one time I really needed his help.  Too many pins and it easily destroys the SL.  

[Cigar King]

1 hour ago, island lady said:

Would you like to hazard a guess as to how many of us Pesky Pinnacles actually sail in full suites.  If you were to strike up a conversation with me...not wearing a pin...would you be horrified if you found out I was a Pinnacle?  😉 

I couldn't care less about your status.  Nor is the issue of suite guests who are also Pinnacle a concern.  At least it isn't too me.  You bring it up in these conversations.  I'm wondering why?

[John&LaLa]

4 minutes ago, Cigar King said:

I'm guessing the Diamonds who no longer have access to the concierge lounge would love to know this.

 

Wow, that's going way back. You sure you don't mean D+

[njkruzer]

3 minutes ago, Cigar King said:

I'm guessing the Diamonds who no longer have access to the concierge lounge would love to know this.

Diamond's didn't have access but D+ did.  I do recall when we were just D and then created D+ and we lost access to a lounge, etc.  Oh well, time will tell what happens 

 

On the Jewel Australia circumnavigation in 2020, gosh that was a long time ago, we were pushed out of CL because of the large number.  As D lounge was way too small they used Safari Lounge, which was packed