To Have or Not to Have Smoke Free Casions

[Bobbiegentry]

4 hours ago, WAvoyager said:

Majority may rule, but that doesn’t mean the minority opinion doesn’t exist/matter.

You’re right to smoke ends where my nose begins.

[Bobbiegentry]

5 minutes ago, Bobbiegentry said:

You’re right to smoke ends where my nose begins.

@justafem☝️

[JimmyVWine]

5 hours ago, WAvoyager said:

but part of the opposing view is a) smokers enjoy smoking when they’re playing,

You could delete the word “playing” and insert any number of things and the statement would be just as true, yet special rules do not apply. 
Smokers enjoy smoking when they’re:

Dining

Enjoying a comedy show

Listening to a band

Having sex

Drinking at a bar

Sitting on their balcony. 
 

There is no logic behind the idea that “pulling the handle of a slot machine” should be treated differently. 

[CruisnDeb]

1 hour ago, justafem said:

Especially when covid protocols showed the real loss of gambling income, because nonsmokers DIDN'T make up the loss as they said they would.  5 months, 5 months without smoking in the casinos and everyone who said they'd gamble didn't. 

My issue with this argument is the ships were sailing at 25%-50% capacity at this time so not really a fair assessment. I agree with the others that talk about Celebrity Cruises—every Celebrity ship I’ve been on, the casino is very crowded each evening and often times I can’t find a table with an open seat. 

[Cruise Raider]

6 minutes ago, CruisnDeb said:

My issue with this argument is the ships were sailing at 25%-50% capacity at this time so not really a fair assessment. I agree with the others that talk about Celebrity Cruises—every Celebrity ship I’ve been on, the casino is very crowded each evening and often times I can’t find a table with an open seat. 

I completely agree with your assessment.  
Plus, when there was no smoking in the casino during CoVid, we are told that ‘everyone’ who said they would gamble more didn’t .. blatantly false!  For me and the friends that I’ve cruised with actually gambled a lot more often and for longer periods of time.  I didn’t have to choose from the small number and variety of machines the cruiselines placed in the non smoking section.  
 

[SargassoPirate]

19 hours ago, davekathy said:

The stench still drifts into all surrounding areas, including outside of the casino. 

I avoid Crooner$ because of the smoke drifting out of the Casino.  

 

There must be a bunch of smokers at Princess top management.

 

Seems like they could place a call over to Celebrity and see how their casino revenues compare before and after the smoking ban.

 

Smoking bans haven't killed the restaurant and bar industries like the tobacco lobby said they would.

[PTMary]

17 minutes ago, justafem said:

 

Celebrity has nonsmoking casinos, which means smokers aren't booking those cruises at the rate they do with other lines.  Celebrity is the only line that disallows smoking in casinos.

 

Casino revenue went UP after Celebrity banned smoking in their casinos. How do you explain that inconvenient truth?

[davekathy]

27 minutes ago, SargassoPirate said:

I avoid Crooner$ because of the smoke drifting out of the Casino.  

 

There must be a bunch of smokers at Princess top management.

 

Seems like they could place a call over to Celebrity and see how their casino revenues compare before and after the smoking ban.

 

Smoking bans haven't killed the restaurant and bar industries like the tobacco lobby said they would.

I'd like to see Princess lockdown the casinos aka smoking lounges whenever gambling isn't allowed. Absolutely no reason for smokers to use the casino as their smoking lounge. That would help eliminate the stench going out into other surrounding venues for those times. Best fix would be Princess needs to follow Celebritys lead on banning all inside smoking. OK, back to reality. 

[pathi]

With Mexico's recent ban on smoking in public.(Similar to Canada's) I think that the US will follow suit in the next few years. Once that happens the Cruise lines will follow along.

[SargassoPirate]

From the CDC:

 

Cigarette smoking is responsible for more than 480,000 deaths per year in the United States, including more than 41,000 deaths resulting from secondhand smoke exposure. This is about one in five deaths annually, or 1,300 deaths every day. On average, smokers die 10 years earlier than nonsmokers.

That's double the current death rate from Covid.

From  Princess.com

Your Cruise Health Comes First

Rest assured our top priority continues to be the health and safety of you, our crew and the communities we visit.

 

Anyone else see the disconnect when it comes to allowing smoking inside ships?

 

(Apologies for the sloppy cut and paste - using a smart phone.)

[memoak]

14 hours ago, Bobbiegentry said:

You’re right to smoke ends where my nose begins.

I am very affected by strong perfume and colognes. Can we just ban the use of them throughout all ships