Bobbiegentry Posted January 23, 2023 #51 Share Posted January 23, 2023 4 hours ago, WAvoyager said: Majority may rule, but that doesn’t mean the minority opinion doesn’t exist/matter. You’re right to smoke ends where my nose begins. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbiegentry Posted January 23, 2023 #52 Share Posted January 23, 2023 5 minutes ago, Bobbiegentry said: You’re right to smoke ends where my nose begins. @justafem☝️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare JimmyVWine Posted January 23, 2023 #53 Share Posted January 23, 2023 5 hours ago, WAvoyager said: but part of the opposing view is a) smokers enjoy smoking when they’re playing, You could delete the word “playing” and insert any number of things and the statement would be just as true, yet special rules do not apply. Smokers enjoy smoking when they’re: Dining Enjoying a comedy show Listening to a band Having sex Drinking at a bar Sitting on their balcony. There is no logic behind the idea that “pulling the handle of a slot machine” should be treated differently. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruisnDeb Posted January 23, 2023 #54 Share Posted January 23, 2023 1 hour ago, justafem said: Especially when covid protocols showed the real loss of gambling income, because nonsmokers DIDN'T make up the loss as they said they would. 5 months, 5 months without smoking in the casinos and everyone who said they'd gamble didn't. My issue with this argument is the ships were sailing at 25%-50% capacity at this time so not really a fair assessment. I agree with the others that talk about Celebrity Cruises—every Celebrity ship I’ve been on, the casino is very crowded each evening and often times I can’t find a table with an open seat. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Cruise Raider Posted January 23, 2023 #55 Share Posted January 23, 2023 6 minutes ago, CruisnDeb said: My issue with this argument is the ships were sailing at 25%-50% capacity at this time so not really a fair assessment. I agree with the others that talk about Celebrity Cruises—every Celebrity ship I’ve been on, the casino is very crowded each evening and often times I can’t find a table with an open seat. I completely agree with your assessment. Plus, when there was no smoking in the casino during CoVid, we are told that ‘everyone’ who said they would gamble more didn’t .. blatantly false! For me and the friends that I’ve cruised with actually gambled a lot more often and for longer periods of time. I didn’t have to choose from the small number and variety of machines the cruiselines placed in the non smoking section. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SargassoPirate Posted January 23, 2023 #56 Share Posted January 23, 2023 19 hours ago, davekathy said: The stench still drifts into all surrounding areas, including outside of the casino. I avoid Crooner$ because of the smoke drifting out of the Casino. There must be a bunch of smokers at Princess top management. Seems like they could place a call over to Celebrity and see how their casino revenues compare before and after the smoking ban. Smoking bans haven't killed the restaurant and bar industries like the tobacco lobby said they would. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PTMary Posted January 23, 2023 #57 Share Posted January 23, 2023 17 minutes ago, justafem said: Celebrity has nonsmoking casinos, which means smokers aren't booking those cruises at the rate they do with other lines. Celebrity is the only line that disallows smoking in casinos. Casino revenue went UP after Celebrity banned smoking in their casinos. How do you explain that inconvenient truth? 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davekathy Posted January 23, 2023 #58 Share Posted January 23, 2023 27 minutes ago, SargassoPirate said: I avoid Crooner$ because of the smoke drifting out of the Casino. There must be a bunch of smokers at Princess top management. Seems like they could place a call over to Celebrity and see how their casino revenues compare before and after the smoking ban. Smoking bans haven't killed the restaurant and bar industries like the tobacco lobby said they would. I'd like to see Princess lockdown the casinos aka smoking lounges whenever gambling isn't allowed. Absolutely no reason for smokers to use the casino as their smoking lounge. That would help eliminate the stench going out into other surrounding venues for those times. Best fix would be Princess needs to follow Celebritys lead on banning all inside smoking. OK, back to reality. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pathi Posted January 23, 2023 #59 Share Posted January 23, 2023 With Mexico's recent ban on smoking in public.(Similar to Canada's) I think that the US will follow suit in the next few years. Once that happens the Cruise lines will follow along. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SargassoPirate Posted January 23, 2023 #60 Share Posted January 23, 2023 From the CDC: Cigarette smoking is responsible for more than 480,000 deaths per year in the United States, including more than 41,000 deaths resulting from secondhand smoke exposure. This is about one in five deaths annually, or 1,300 deaths every day. On average, smokers die 10 years earlier than nonsmokers. That's double the current death rate from Covid. From Princess.com Your Cruise Health Comes First Rest assured our top priority continues to be the health and safety of you, our crew and the communities we visit. Anyone else see the disconnect when it comes to allowing smoking inside ships? (Apologies for the sloppy cut and paste - using a smart phone.) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
memoak Posted January 23, 2023 #61 Share Posted January 23, 2023 14 hours ago, Bobbiegentry said: You’re right to smoke ends where my nose begins. I am very affected by strong perfume and colognes. Can we just ban the use of them throughout all ships 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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