Something funny that happened on the Mariner this week

[katiel53]

As for the parents, I bet he did get in trouble. If the parents did not care, the 18 year old would not have been so sneaky about it.

 

I don't think it had anything to do with trying to hide the bottles and be sneaky because of the parents. It had to do with trying to be sneaky to get them through security. I also believe the 14 year old was going to have some of it too. I doubt he would go through all the trouble just to help an 18 year old if he weren't going to benefit from it.

 

I think Mike is pretty right on. I would love it though if he were wrong and the parents took some action against the kids.

 

 

Katie

[danajjj]

IMNSPHO stands for "In my not so popular humble opinion."

 

Here is my take. An 18 year old person should be responsible and old enough to leave a ship with a 14 year old. Secondly, in most ports the age to purchase liquor is 18. My guess is that the 14 year old was being used by the older kid and the booze was to be smuggled for his use when he returned home rather than for being consumed on the ship (3 bottles of booze is a lot for anyone to consume on the ship). It is just another teenage kid trying to beat the system. As for the parents, I bet he did get in trouble. If the parents did not care, the 18 year old would not have been so sneaky about it.

 

Lastly, if it was an adult who was smuggling booze in his baggy pants, would those of you who said you would have ratted the kids out for smuggling the booze have done the same for the adults? Or is it the underage drinking that would have compelled you to report it?

 

Just a thought from a 40 year old well adjusted adult male that was raised with parents that would not have approved of the booze smuggling at that age but I sure would have tried it.

 

I would probably not let my 14yr be chaperoned in port by an 18yr old even if the 18yr old was someone I considered to be responsible. Ask me in a few years since my kids are 5, 7, and 10. I would probably not be thrilled with my 18yr old being in port with a friend of the same age given some of the incidents in the news lately. I guess it would greatly depend on what port and what they were going to be doing.

 

I would not rat out an adult. I would curiously board nearby to see if they got caught or not though.:D And no, I have never smuggled booze onboard myself. I would definitely rat out underage kids or unruly young adults. I would rather them receive some consequences for inappropriate behavior and hopefully learn some kind of lesson. Not to mention that if they did consume the alcohol onboard, their behavior could affect my or others cruise in a negative way.

[Teacherloves2Cruise]

I am a teacher that would rat them out!!

 

 

Even being only 25 years old, that isn't cool and I would have said something. What if it got through and then one of the boys became seriously ill because of it? If I didn't say something and then that happened, I woudn't feel too good about myself.

[la_croisiere_s'amuse]

In all fairness, I, and all other teachers, regularly encounter wonderful kids with great parents who supervise their kids and teach them right from wrong. If there are teachers who have never encountered the other kind, I wonder how they have been so fortunate.

 

Oh, I agree . . . you certainly see all kinds! :) I guess I've just been lucky enough to rub shoulders primarily with stand-up parents who sincerely try to do the right thing by their kids. Not perfect parents, certainly, and they don't raise perfect kids either. But I'd like to believe that the sort of parenting you describe in your scenario is still in the minority.

 

Maybe the trick is to only teach foreign language classes -- that's where all the good parents send their kids! :p :D

[Nitra]

I am with those that would have reported it. I have no problem getting involved when I see something that could cause someone harm or is illegal. Smuggling booze in itself is breaking the rules but is not illegal, but underage drinking is, as is supplying booze to a minor.

 

Myself and a couple of others got involved on my last cruise and prevented what could have been some very drunk young girls possibly getting raped. Because we alerted the bar manager, and he got security involved, they found them, split them up and escorted the girls to their cabin and made sure they stayed put for the night. There is a lot more to the story and without going into a long detailed thing, just know sometimes you have to step up and get involved.

 

I dont know if I would have tried that as a kid but heaven knows I tried many other things. My poor mom, bless her heart, she actually survived and even now in my 40s mom still has to be a mother to me.

[Nliedel]

Just a couple of asides.

 

1. I'm lucky I'm not dead, from all the bone headed things I did when I was a young woman. Darwin should have had a field day, with my doofus hiney.

 

2. Gene (DH) and I went to a New Years Eve party the year before we were married. There was a kid there (fifteen), getting so trashed, that he went to the hospital with alcohol poisoning and almost died. We left immediately, after telling the hostess to cut everyone off, or we would call the police (she did not. She was twenty five and some of these kids were fourteen and very drunk). We ended up not having to call the law. Someone else did. I think my ex friend is lucky she's not in jail on a manslaughter rap.

 

We all get booze before we're supposed to. Okay, not everyone, but I bet most kids do. I know it goes on and I'm not here to police the universe, but if I see a young kid doing something like that, I just get nervous.

 

Of course, my mom was killed by an impaired driver, so I am a tad more touchy on this, than most (long time ago. No apologies or comments required).

[English Jane]

Just a couple of asides.

 

1. I'm lucky I'm not dead, from all the bone headed things I did when I was a young woman. Darwin should have had a field day, with my doofus hiney.

 

 

Who was it who said that we are two nations divided by a common language?

 

I don't know what a 'doofus' or a 'hiney' is, enlighten me please.

 

:confused: :D

[FLCruiseGirl]

This past December, I went "solo" on Freedom. So happens, my parents were on the same ship, travelling with a group of friends. I am FORTY years old, and my mother made me SWEAR that I would not get off the ship in MoBay by myself. LOL

 

T

 

 

My husband and I sailed on the Freedom in April with my brother and his wife. Before we left, my mother told me not to get too close to the railing if I drank any alcohol - and told me to tell my brother too. My brother is 50 and I'm 51!!! Good parents never stop parenting!!!

[TRadle]

I’m curious as to how the ages of these individuals are known? :rolleyes:

If a person is old enough to go to war at 18 years of age I think they are old enough to go to port with a 14 year old.

In many ports the legal age to purchase and consume alcohol is 18 so the only rule broken was trying to bring it on board. It seems the 18 year old knew that it wasn’t allowed and should not have put the 14 year old in that situation.

My 20 year old daughter has made arrangements with my 24 year old son to purchase tequila in port as a gift for a 24 year old friend and check it at security for her. She can legally purchase the liquor, but knows she can’t bring it onboard, even checked, because she is not yet 21. Does this make her a bad person? I think not! Knowing that they are doing this does not make me a bad parent either.

[Nliedel]

Who was it who said that we are two nations divided by a common language?

 

I don't know what a 'doofus' or a 'hiney' is, enlighten me please.

 

:confused: :D

 

Doofus = moron, numbskull, idiot with a death wish.

 

hineym = hind end, butt, person who is behaving like the hind end of a butt. :D

[Nliedel]

I don't have as much issue with the eighteen year old, as I do with the fourteen year old and you're a parent, Tradle, you know we can be pretty accurate on guessing ages.

 

I also don't think eighteen is old enough to go to war. I don't really think there's any age that's old enough. Wish war would just move along. Nothing to see here.

[TRadle]

I don't have as much issue with the eighteen year old, as I do with the fourteen year old and you're a parent, Tradle, you know we can be pretty accurate on guessing ages.

 

I also don't think eighteen is old enough to go to war. I don't really think there's any age that's old enough. Wish war would just move along. Nothing to see here.

 

 

I’m not so sure about guessing ages. My 20 year old DD looks 14! She is a tiny thing with perfect skin. I sure hope it last for her!

My sons also looked about 4 years younger then they were for a very long time. They are just now losing that teenage look and they are both well into their twenties.

On the other hand, they have friends that much older than the actually are, so it really is not an exact science. I wouldn’t be so quick to judge age.

As for war, I don’t think you are ever old enough to go. However, legally in the States you are considered an adult at eighteen. Your parents are no longer given medical information, you can vote, and you can go to war……but you can’t drink.

Just so you know I’m not a drinking advocate here. I just don’t like how people are so quick to judge other people’s actions….and not just those engaging in certain behavior, but their parents as well.

[bplazo]

I was going to also comment about kids being allowed to roam the port by themselves, however, I remember my daughter and her friend sneaking off the ship when they were both 16. Maybe other people were thinking what kind of parent I was.

 

I try to keep a close eye on my daughter but there are times they she thinks that she can pull one over on me (and I think sometimes she does and I just have not found out about) so maybe this is what happened in this case.

 

By the way, I did go searching for her and embarressed her on the dock when I found her. I climbed up on a bench and announced to anyone who wanted to listen on how upset I was that these girls thought they could leave the ship without an adult. At 16 this was a punshiment!

[Dario M]

...man these kids are giving teenagers a bad name

Im 17 and i dont bother trying to sneak booze and drugs, that stuff dosent really intrest me. But regardless these kids are the reason i get searched at every port by customs and by ship security, and after the 4th or 5th time you begin to get edgy about it (anybody would) so now i ask them for the cause and if the cause is becasue im 17 and most 17 year olds are bad kids.......they need something in writing than.....now i dont pick fights by any means or try to start legal trouble...in fact i avioid it at all costs, i just protect my rights

[Fran Harp]

Well, from my position as a teacher, let me guess ... first, the parents wanted to know why security was bothering them about it. Then they said they OK'd the purchase so just send it and the kids up to the cabin. Then they berated security for taking the booze and said it should be turned over to them since it was bought and paid for. Then they threatened to sue the ship since the security officers patted their kids down and "nobody can put their hands on MY kid!" When the kids came up to the cabin they taught them that they were dumb to try to bring two bottles on board, and showed them how they could have concealed one bottle better. They then turned the kids loose to roam the ship while the parents got blasted in the bar.

 

HMMMMMM?

 

OR the kids might have managed to sneak it through security, hide it from parents who trusted them too much (and no matter how much you love them, no you can't always trust them, no matter how well you've raised them)......proceed to get blasted themselves, and one of them, probably the 14 year old, would go over the side and lose his life. ...and then the parents would sue the cruise line for not finding the alcohol and preventing the tragedy.

 

Personally I think the kids and families should have been removed from the ship. If the parents had given their permission for two kids to go off the ship alone and buy alcohol, *knowing* what the cruise line policy is, they're not too bright in any event.

 

Putting on flame retardant suit now.

 

Fran

[Havana Daydreamin]

pop pop pop pop pop

Thank you for providing the source for the popcorn! :0

I have raised three through teenager age....not one of them would have attempted this....Thanks be to God for that!

Too bad for the family to be ripped across the washboard on this one.

[Kruuzin]

[quote name='MercedMike']Well, from my position as a teacher, let me guess ... first, the parents wanted to know why security was bothering them about it. Then they said they OK'd the purchase so just send it and the kids up to the cabin. Then they berated security for taking the booze and said it should be turned over to them since it was bought and paid for. Then they threatened to sue the ship since the security officers patted their kids down and "nobody can put their hands on MY kid!" When the kids came up to the cabin they taught them that they were dumb to try to bring two bottles on board, and showed them how they could have concealed one bottle better. They then turned the kids loose to roam the ship while the parents got blasted in the bar.

HMMMMMM?[/quote]

As a fellow teacher--thank you for saying it. I was getting a mental picture of the parents, as we know, saying that their kids would never do anything like that.:D

[MercedMike]

[quote name='Toddcan']I'll bet that those kids' parents have, in the past, put their diaper-wearing babies in the ship's pools while reserving deck chairs at the other end of the ship while their 10 year olds are sitting in the adult-only hot tubes and then soon after, put on shorts and headed off to the dining room to eat![/quote]

ROFLMAO!!

I THOUGHT I recognized them!:D

[TRadle]

[quote name='Havana Daydreamin']
I have raised three through teenager age....not one of them would have attempted this....Thanks be to God for that!

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[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]You mean you haven’t gotten to the part where you are having a lovely dinner with your adult children and they begin to confess? Really, they start to rat each other out! :eek: [/SIZE][/FONT]
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[SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]Most parents do their best to raise wonderful adults. I’m shock by those that are so very quick to pass judgment on parents for the misbehavior of two kids. [/FONT][/SIZE]
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[SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]It was my experience as a teen that the preacher’s kids down the block had the worst behavior and their overly strict parents didn’t have a clue. [/FONT][/SIZE]

[Kruuzin]

[quote=la_croisiere_s'amuse;10371441][SIZE=3][FONT=Book Antiqua]Oh, I agree . . . you certainly see all kinds! :) I guess I've just been lucky enough to rub shoulders [I]primarily[/I] with stand-up parents who sincerely try to do the right thing by their kids. Not perfect parents, certainly, and they don't raise perfect kids either. But I'd like to believe that the sort of parenting you describe in your scenario is still in the minority.[/FONT][/SIZE]

[SIZE=3][FONT=Book Antiqua]Maybe the trick is to only teach foreign language classes -- that's where all the [I]good[/I] parents send their kids! :p :D[/FONT][/SIZE]
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I guess that depends on the foreign language you teach. I've heard their horror stories too.

[mdmourges]

Two points....

One, why wouldn't you let an 18 year old watch over his 14 year old brother? I mean can't an 18 year old vote and serve in the military? Would it make a difference if the older boy were 19? or 20? Anyway, you have to let kids do what they want at some point. Will they make mistakes? Sure, but you can't treat them like 2 year olds all their lives.

Two, when I was 18, I would have done this too (I am now 51) regardess if it were on a ship in some port or if I were at home. lololo. That's what a lot of kids/young adults do. And yes, my adult children have told me things they did that I am glad I know now and not then.

Mark

[J9sling]

[quote name='Nliedel']I do want to state, for clarification, that because I would do it, does not mean others should. I'm a confrontational, old battle axe. I don't bat an eye, but my husband would rather die than make waves. Why we work so well together. He's happy to cheer me on, but from the sidelines. I respect his right to be the one to watch me turn into some bizarre Roman candle and be there to pick up the pieces. :D[/quote]

Thanks for the defense! I am not a confrontational person either (like your husband) but I also wanted to see if RCCL security would be able to spot them somehow. Not every smuggler who gets on the ship is noticed by someone else prior to boarding. Fortunately security was thorough and the kids were caught...and very quickly. A couple of teens smuggling booze is minor compared to what else could be hidden and brought on board. RCCL was on the ball which makes me feel a lot safer.

[TRadle]

[SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]J9sling, why did you title the thread “A funny thing happened…”? :confused: [/FONT][/SIZE]

[KillaFee]

I don't see why an 18 year old and 14 year old in port together is an issue, but that's just me. I was trekking around Spain by myself when I was 17 and I was allowed to be in the ports on cruises when I was 16 as long as I had a buddy - and my parents are by no stretch of the imagination lax at parenting!

The kids that the OP saw sound like little turds for sure, but do you all mean to tell me that [I]none[/I] of you ever tried to pull a fast one when you were that age? :rolleyes:

[J9sling]

[quote name='TRadle'][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]J9sling, why did you title the thread “A funny thing happened…”? :confused: [/FONT][/SIZE][/quote]

Because it was funny to see one of the kids stuff two bottles in his jeans and think he was going to get away with smuggling them on board and get caught as soon as he boarded the ship. Then they both proceeded to blame each other (like they didn't know that it was wrong) and then try to give the bottles to security to avoid a call to the parents.

It would not have been funny if they actually got away with it and security was so lax that they missed two big bottles stuffed in pockets.

But, since that didn't happen...it was funny.