bbrule7 Posted January 9, 2018 #1 Share Posted January 9, 2018 Received from guest services during a Dec 2017 cruise. img011.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silkroad Posted January 9, 2018 #2 Share Posted January 9, 2018 This is very interesting. I wish they’d broken the dining services amount down a bit more though. Thanks so much for posting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
easyboy Posted January 9, 2018 #3 Share Posted January 9, 2018 Nice to be aware of where the auto tips go. Thanks for the share. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHEZMARYLOU Posted January 9, 2018 #4 Share Posted January 9, 2018 Looks like another Celebrity miss-step, the $ are off by .50 for CC, Aqua and Suites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fouremco Posted January 9, 2018 #5 Share Posted January 9, 2018 Looks like another Celebrity miss-step, the $ are off by .50 for CC, Aqua and Suites. Maybe they'll get it right with the increased rates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fshagan Posted January 9, 2018 #6 Share Posted January 9, 2018 Looks like another Celebrity miss-step, the $ are off by .50 for CC, Aqua and Suites. That .50 goes to me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanatravel Posted January 10, 2018 #7 Share Posted January 10, 2018 Celebrity recently increased the per person gratuities for all categories; $1 per person per day I believe. If you have already pre-paid your tips, the amount will remain the same as 2016 rates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Keith1010 Posted January 10, 2018 #8 Share Posted January 10, 2018 Thanks for sharing this. Keith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monctonguy Posted January 10, 2018 #9 Share Posted January 10, 2018 Very interesting.....as this questions comes up often on many boards. Interesting to see the state room attendant..I don't know how many rooms they are responsible for on average..but if you use 10...they make easily $30,000 USD a year from tips....wow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karynanne Posted January 10, 2018 #10 Share Posted January 10, 2018 Very interesting.....as this questions comes up often on many boards. Interesting to see the state room attendant..I don't know how many rooms they are responsible for on average..but if you use 10...they make easily $30,000 USD a year from tips....wow! Is your “WOW” a negative comment? Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monctonguy Posted January 10, 2018 #11 Share Posted January 10, 2018 not negative...amazed....average Canadian income is about $35,000 USD...so surprised to see that they could make as much or more than that...just in "tips" alone...didn't realize just how much those tips add up to! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaneAustenCruiser Posted January 10, 2018 #12 Share Posted January 10, 2018 I hope they do make that amount in tips! I'm assuming that's pre-tax. This has got to be a tough job. Away from your family for weeks at a time, stuck on a boat, very small personal quarters, anything customer service can be brutal. This will be my first cruise, but I don't need to have been on a ship before to know how some people behave to service workers. :D;p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karynanne Posted January 10, 2018 #13 Share Posted January 10, 2018 I hope they do make that amount in tips! I'm assuming that's pre-tax. This has got to be a tough job. Away from your family for weeks at a time, stuck on a boat, very small personal quarters, anything customer service can be brutal. This will be my first cruise, but I don't need to have been on a ship before to know how some people behave to service workers. :D;p The crew does work extremely hard, and very long hours. They are also away from their families up to 7 months at a time. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jody75 Posted January 10, 2018 #14 Share Posted January 10, 2018 Interesting to see the state room attendant..I don't know how many rooms they are responsible for on average..but if you use 10...they make easily $30,000 USD a year from tips....wow! In fact the the number is 14 and they have dispensed with his assistant. You are assuming everyone leaves their auto-gratuity in place which is far from reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScubesDad Posted January 10, 2018 #15 Share Posted January 10, 2018 not negative...amazed....average Canadian income is about $35,000 USD...so surprised to see that they could make as much or more than that...just in "tips" alone...didn't realize just how much those tips add up to! I'm surprised by your response. The average CDN work week is 35 - 40 hours per week over 4 or 5 days, not 90 - 100 hours over 7 days continuous for a 6 month or longer period. also, consider how many gratuities are removed by passengers for whatever reason. I would calculate a 6 month contract at around $20,000. ($3.59 x 2 x 7 x 15 x 26 double occupancy, 15 staterooms 6 months) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tbird58 Posted January 10, 2018 #16 Share Posted January 10, 2018 not negative...amazed....average Canadian income is about $35,000 USD...so surprised to see that they could make as much or more than that...just in "tips" alone...didn't realize just how much those tips add up to! Keep in mind that anything they purchase on board (drinks, gifts, etc) are taken from that check as well. And most end up sending the money back home to help support their families. We always give extra to our waiters, bartenders and cabin stewards in envelopes at the end of the trip if we feel they do a great job. I'd rather know they're getting the money than wonder about the sharing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SetU2 Posted January 10, 2018 #17 Share Posted January 10, 2018 Looks like another Celebrity miss-step, the $ are off by .50 for CC, Aqua and Suites. It was correct. There is a separate number for Aqua/CC which is 50cents higher. Or maybe my math is horribly off. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fshagan Posted January 10, 2018 #18 Share Posted January 10, 2018 Very interesting.....as this questions comes up often on many boards. Interesting to see the state room attendant..I don't know how many rooms they are responsible for on average..but if you use 10...they make easily $30,000 USD a year from tips....wow! I think you're estimating high. $3.59 per day per person, based on two people per stateroom, is $7.18 per stateroom, or $71.80 per day if they have 10 staterooms. That's $503 per week. Equal to about $12.55 per hour for 40 hours for a worker in the US. They work about a 9 month term, if I recall correctly, so that's about 39 weeks. 39 x $503 is $19,601. Even if they worked 52 weeks a year it would be only $26,156 (I'm assuming we're averaging two people per stateroom, but it might be slightly higher than that). Better yet if it is expressed as "tips" on their paycheck because many countries don't tax tips. The Philippines don't, maybe in order to encourage their excess workers to take just these kinds of jobs and bring money home. It is nice to see X actually saying how the money is distributed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Sixth? Posted January 11, 2018 #19 Share Posted January 11, 2018 (edited) Oops double post Edited January 11, 2018 by A Sixth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Sixth? Posted January 11, 2018 #20 Share Posted January 11, 2018 (edited) Shoot..... try again Edited January 11, 2018 by A Sixth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Sixth? Posted January 11, 2018 #21 Share Posted January 11, 2018 These "how little the crew is paid" certainly reflect our first world problems IMHO When you get a chance to leave a place where you may be making less than a US dollar an hour, you take it. Working a week at min wage in Jamaica pays about $ 50.00 US a week. A Nurse in India makes less than $ 4,000 US per year. Just saying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C 2 C Posted January 11, 2018 #22 Share Posted January 11, 2018 How old is the chart? Minimum hourly rate in Ontario is now $15 per hour. Many of the staff on board have degrees but the pay at home is so low, that just about any job on board pays better. We have talked to a bar server who makes $50,000 per year... whether that is typical or not was beyond the scope of our conversation. Some staff will not work (are reluctant to take assignments) on ships that sail mostly in "non-tipping waters" These "how little the crew is paid" certainly reflect our first world problems IMHO When you get a chance to leave a place where you may be making less than a US dollar an hour, you take it. Working a week at min wage in Jamaica pays about $ 50.00 US a week. A Nurse in India makes less than $ 4,000 US per year. Just saying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fouremco Posted January 11, 2018 #23 Share Posted January 11, 2018 How old is the chart?Minimum hourly rate in Ontario is now $15 per hour. Many of the staff on board have degrees but the pay at home is so low, that just about any job on board pays better. We have talked to a bar server who makes $50,000 per year... whether that is typical or not was beyond the scope of our conversation. Some staff will not work (are reluctant to take assignments) on ships that sail mostly in "non-tipping waters" The chart provides the rate for Canada, not Ontario, which is now $14. It jumps to $15 on January 1, 2019. That said, the lowest provincial minimum wage is Nova Scotia's $10.85 effective last April, so I agree, the chart must be quite dated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Sixth? Posted January 11, 2018 #24 Share Posted January 11, 2018 The chart provides the rate for Canada, not Ontario, which is now $14. It jumps to $15 on January 1, 2019. That said, the lowest provincial minimum wage is Nova Scotia's $10.85 effective last April, so I agree, the chart must be quite dated. The chart is from Aug 2013.... https://westkootenaylabourcouncil.wordpress.com/2013/08/20/the-u-s-has-a-7-25-minimum-wage-australias-is-16-88/ It still makes the point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mynki Posted January 11, 2018 #25 Share Posted January 11, 2018 I wonder how many will pick up on the fact that some people consider the top four countries as non tipping nations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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