Fire Aboard Carnival Triumph

[Krazy Kruizers]

:eek: Not a good thing to have happened. The good news is that everyone is all right.

 

LuLu

~~~

 

That is a blessing.

[Krazy Kruizers]

Concerning the passports -- read post #9 on this thread:

http://boards.cruisecritic.com/showthread.php?p=37070870#post37070870

[mamaofami]

Fire on a ship is pretty scary. I'm glad everyone is OK.

 

Another reason to get a passport and never leave home without it when traveling. You never know what could happen.

[mamaofami]

I had a friend on board Azamar Quest when she had a fire in the engine room last year.They had no air conditioning either and no power for cooking.

 

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/fire-damaged-cruise-ship-azamara-quest-safely-reaches-harbor

[Northshorecruisers]

I am glad that everyone is OK and feel sorry for what people will need to go through the next two days waiting to get into a port. I am sorry for people who planned to board this ship and their plans have been cancelled.

 

I don't think I have ever read on any cruiselines Board other than Carnival the number of people who do not take their passports (or don't even have passports). People are looking for cheap fun and are younger and thinking nothing bad can happen to them. When airfare is twice as much as the cost of your cabin, paying for the cost of a passport is not on the horizon. Trying to figure out how to smuggle booze on board or paying for a "booze package" is.

 

As bad as I feel for the passengers that will be extremely inconvienenced by this, I hope it is a wake up to other cruisers that you should always take your passport. It's just not for us "oldies" cruising HAL that may have some type of emergency and need to fly home from a foreign port.

[3rdtimecruising]

I am glad that everyone is OK and feel sorry for what people will need to go through the next two days waiting to get into a port. I am sorry for people who planned to board this ship and their plans have been cancelled.

 

I don't think I have ever read on any cruiselines Board other than Carnival the number of people who do not take their passports (or don't even have passports). People are looking for cheap fun and are younger and thinking nothing bad can happen to them. When airfare is twice as much as the cost of your cabin, paying for the cost of a passport is not on the horizon. Trying to figure out how to smuggle booze on board or paying for a "booze package" is.

 

As bad as I feel for the passengers that will be extremely inconvienenced by this, I hope it is a wake up to other cruisers that you should always take your passport. It's just not for us "oldies" cruising HAL that may have some type of emergency and need to fly home from a foreign port.

Hello Northshorecruisers,

I agree with you completely, and after the Concordia it is very important to have access to your passport. We sent copies of them to our email so that wherever we may be we can get a copy. We also make photocopies and keep with all our documents as well as leaving a copy on the kitchen table for the kids to have in case we are stranded....small effort with good results. Three weeks for these "oldies" to head out on the Zaandam from San Diego to Hawaii...My advice be prepared....and have a quick bag ready at all times with your meds, passport, warm clothes. Must be the Mom in me remembering the diaper bag on the ready LOL.....:D

Ann

[Viesczy]

This is another huge black eye for the cruise industry. We continue to see cuts made right here on HAL. Carnival Corp paid out a lot due to Concordia and there is still more coming with that issue. Add to that the Costa Allegra engine room fire last year that sent that ship to the scrap yards. It all starts adding up to a company that is self insured in this area.

 

It isn't going to hurt Carnival's bottom line, in the end all this is written off and because of their operating loss they're going to net more money paid back to them from the gov't in taxes than they paid into the gov't in taxes. Yes, they're going to be all "OMG" and fair to customers affected & then "OMG we're hurting with revenue/expenses" but on the back end they're going to reap rewards. Having operating losses isn't always a bad thing. Just watch and read over their full statements for this year as compared to prior years.

 

You're right that they'll use that excuse to further overwork their crew and gouge us for money. There is a sociopath's level of greed within the Corporate world, but that is a far different/off topic convo.

 

Derek

[durangoscots]

While it is best to have a passport at all times when leaving the country... this will not be a problem on this particular incident. Passengers will board bus...be transported to airport for charter flight and their arrival in the US will be handled by special arrangements. The paperwork is probably already underway. Now, if someone wanted to book their own return and did not have a passport there might be problem.

 

Susan

[DFD1]

Derek: Seems to me you're being a bit harsh about Carnival.

 

From what I've seen and read, they're reasonable and fair in their handling of these difficult situations. Far more so than some of the other mass market cruise lines.

 

If they accrue a tax advantage from this, it's the fault of the tax code, not the corporation. Blame would be better placed on the clowns in Washington who created the moster we call the tax code.

 

IMO.

[leen50]

we were just cancelled from our Triumph cruise on Feb. 16 due to the fire. Spoke to our Carnival agent & they are being more than fair on compensations. We have taken 25 cruises on all the major lines & Carnival is our favorite!

[solocanadian]

Yes, they likely have insurance but what happens to premiums when there are many incidents?

 

Unortunately, they rise. :(

[jtl513]

Those 2,000 people can sit in the Yucatan for a few weeks waiting for a very expensive emergency passport - or they can ride a bus for a few days from Yucatan to the USA.

Since there are so many, could Carnival do something like charter planes and fly them home under guard as if they are prisoners?

[sppunk]

A bit of good news: they have restored partial bathrooms in the front of the ship and water service for Lido.

 

Two ships have aided ferrying additional provisions and they will transfer a guest needed dialysis to another Carnival ship this afternoon.

[durangoscots]

Since there are so many, could Carnival do something like charter planes and fly them home under guard as if they are prisoners?

 

You don't have to do that. They simply travel as a group with escort and already filled in paper work. It is not a big deal. The problem with not having a passport comes only when you are trying to do it solo. Carnival with have reps with them.

 

Susan

[sassyredhat]

CNN cell phone app said the Elation is aiding.

News was that there is no AC or hot water, however they have running water in the showers..

They are handing out potty bags for #2, and they were supposed to pee in the shower or sink. :eek:

Pat

[Krazy Kruizers]

we were just cancelled from our Triumph cruise on Feb. 16 due to the fire. Spoke to our Carnival agent & they are being more than fair on compensations. We have taken 25 cruises on all the major lines & Carnival is our favorite!

 

Welcome to Cruise Critic.

I have been reading on the Carnival section about how fair Carnival is being to the passengers already oon the ship as well as those who are booked on the next couple of cruises.

[Krazy Kruizers]

Feel so bad that the passengers and crew now have another day on the ship in poor conditions while she is towed to Mobile.

[mamaofami]

The only good news is that because of the currents, the ship will be towed back to the states so no passport worries.

 

I just heard an interview on TV and the woman kept praising the wonderful crew. They have dragged mattresses out onto the decks for sleeping. They are not so much lacking for food as for bathrooms.

[startwin]

I feel so bad for those passengers. On NBC this morning they interviewed a guy whose family is onboard, and they seem to be making the best of a bad situation. They are camping out on the deck with a makeshift tent. They have lots of food and drink but the toilet situation must be dreadful.

[dr.dawg]

gee whiz, you folks must have been in touch with news that is contrary to mine; stink, pee every where, even feces on the decks and in hallways and rooms, only cucumber/onion sandwiches, dwindling water supplies, very few restrooms that work. it is on the news and out there. from folks on the ship. horrendous, and hazardous, to say the least. could this happen on a hal ship, carnival owned? are we in denial?

[sapper1]

gee whiz, you folks must have been in touch with news that is contrary to mine; stink, pee every where, even feces on the decks and in hallways and rooms, only cucumber/onion sandwiches, dwindling water supplies, very few restrooms that work. it is on the news and out there. from folks on the ship. horrendous, and hazardous, to say the least. could this happen on a hal ship, carnival owned? are we in denial?

 

Let's just say it's not exactly a Sunday School picnic.

[mamaofami]

gee whiz, you folks must have been in touch with news that is contrary to mine; stink, pee every where, even feces on the decks and in hallways and rooms, only cucumber/onion sandwiches, dwindling water supplies, very few restrooms that work. it is on the news and out there. from folks on the ship. horrendous, and hazardous, to say the least. could this happen on a hal ship, carnival owned? are we in denial?

 

Fire in an engine room, or other area can happen on any ship. That's one reason to limit smoking on a ship, so it doesn't start someplace else, like in a cabin or public room..

[hvsteve1]

The only good thing about this is it happened to Carnival so current conditions aren't that much worse than one would normally expect on a Carnival Cruise :p (OK, go ahead and flame me for being snarky). I do, actually, feel very sorry for these folks but can't understand why the cruise industry, after a number of such experiences, hasn't figured out to put emergency generators on the system that operates the bathrooms. People can put up with no A/C, limited food, etc. but not being able to get rid of human waste is the deal breaker. I also note the ship has shut off the booze. Big mistake. Keeping the pax in a semi-coma would probably help.

[sapper1]

The only good thing about this is it happened to Carnival so current conditions aren't that much worse than one would normally expect on a Carnival Cruise :p (OK, go ahead and flame me for being snarky). I do, actually, feel very sorry for these folks but can't understand why the cruise industry, after a number of such experiences, hasn't figured out to put emergency generators on the system that operates the bathrooms. People can put up with no A/C, limited food, etc. but not being able to get rid of human waste is the deal breaker. I also note the ship has shut off the booze. Big mistake. Keeping the pax in a semi-coma would probably help.

 

I came to the conclusion that the booze supply was cut off because the last thing you want to do with a large group of angry people is to throw liquor into the mix. I think they are just being very smart so as not to make a bad situation worse.

[CoronaCRZR]

I agree.

As this has been happening more lately, I feel the problem is no proper maintenance is being given to ALL of these cruise ships which run 24/7 year after year, and when they go to drydock all attention is first made to add another fee venue or restaurant, and engine & infrastructure second.

 

As the majority of the ships are getting 'older' and maintanance is not priority one this will be happening more often JMHO.

 

smoking policy had absolutely NOTHING to do with this incident; poor ship standards, systems, etc., did. please, do not jump in and start another smoking thread. and, sapper, i agree with you. actually, some of those sunday school picnics were worse, at least among and betwixt the guys:).