Ashland Posted April 26, 2017 #3426 Share Posted April 26, 2017 So when are the Singapore cruises for 2019 going to open :confused: I'm hoping for the Singapore-Shanghai again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaveSplasher Posted April 26, 2017 #3427 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Ovation is going back to Australia end November 2017 via a re-positioning cruise which stops in Singapore. It only has one round trip Singapore sailing in 2018 April before it sails off to Tianjin. Voyager is also going back to Australia as well in October. Quantum will probably remain in China. Now i'm worried Mariner will indeed go back to Europe. This means cutting capacity in Singapore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRUISEBOY305 Posted April 26, 2017 #3428 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Voyagers last sailing in China is October 2018. And both Quantum and Ovation have no sailings after November 2018. Will be interesting to see whether Royal is upgrading capacity in Singapore! Sent from my iPhone using Forums Voyager and Ovation will go back to Australia. (this may perhaps be the last time we'll see Ovation in China if Quantum 4 is coming in in 2019) Quantum is a year-round Shanghai ship and her deployments are released a year at a time (unlike the rest of the fleet) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRUISEBOY305 Posted April 26, 2017 #3429 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Ovation is going back to Australia end November 2017 via a re-positioning cruise which stops in Singapore. It only has one round trip Singapore sailing in 2018 April before it sails off to Tianjin. Voyager is also going back to Australia as well in October. Quantum will probably remain in China. Now i'm worried Mariner will indeed go back to Europe. This means cutting capacity in Singapore. Mariner is not going back to Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRUISEBOY305 Posted April 26, 2017 #3430 Share Posted April 26, 2017 So when are the Singapore cruises for 2019 going to open :confused: I'm hoping for the Singapore-Shanghai again. Singapore and Australia deployments are TBD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRUISEBOY305 Posted April 26, 2017 #3431 Share Posted April 26, 2017 We've seen it before. When Bermuda was not going to get their channel modifed to accommodate Quantum, it was sent to China and Liberty was sent to New Jersey. We've seen it quiet a few times. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I do believe the Quantum "change" was announced before bookings went on sale. Originally Quantum was meant for Bayonne and Anthem was meant for Ft. Lauderdale and Southampton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Ethanol95 Posted April 26, 2017 #3432 Share Posted April 26, 2017 That's sad to hear! :( Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker19 Posted April 26, 2017 #3433 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Quantum is a year-round Shanghai ship and her deployments are released a year at a time or less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropicalgal2 Posted April 26, 2017 #3434 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Yes, the Caribbean Princess could transit the entire Canal without any issues. By the way, the first cruise ship to use the new locks will be the Disney Wonder, one week from Friday. "Similar mega-ships are expected to begin using the locks, including one post-Panamax vessel operated by Princess Cruises. USA Today reported that the cruise line's 118-foot-wide "Caribbean Princess" is scheduled to traverse the new locks on a voyage that launches in Oct 21, 2017. "Caribbean Princess" is likely to be the first mega cruise ship to make use of the Panama Canal expansion. Disney Cruise Line has also scheduled voyages using the new locks for 2017, although its ship, the Disney Wonder, is not a post-Panamax vessel and can fit in the old locks. The Celebrity Cruises, Holland America and Royal Caribbean cruise lines, which operate mega-ships, do not currently have plans to send them through the new locks, according to Travel Weekly. The expansion does not appear to be affecting the recreational travel industry nearly as much as it does commercial shipping." http://www.natureworldnews.com/articles/24756/20160706/new-panama-canal-locks-open-caribbean-princess-will-first-cruise.htm (Hope the web site came through showed on the preview!) :cool: I love this site because I can see what ships will be inthe canal during the next few months! sea cruise chat DOT com has a calendar of ships transiting the canal for the next few months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillB48 Posted April 26, 2017 #3435 Share Posted April 26, 2017 "Caribbean Princess" is likely to be the first mega cruise ship to make use of the Panama Canal expansion. Disney Cruise Line has also scheduled voyages using the new locks for 2017, although its ship, the Disney Wonder, is not a post-Panamax vessel and can fit in the old locks. . As a result of recent additions to the Wonder she is no longer within the length limits to use the old locks, so she will have the privilege of being the first passenger ship to use the new locks. Slight correction, I did not calculate the date correctly, the Wonder will transit the Canal on April 29th. (Saturday). Looks like the Caribbean Princess will be the first ship to use the new locks (that has not transited the Canal previously) and AFAIK the Carnival Splendor will be the first full transit. Think it is safe to say that many on this board would be pleased if Royal added a name to the reservation list! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarea Posted April 26, 2017 #3436 Share Posted April 26, 2017 As a result of recent additions to the Wonder she is no longer within the length limits to use the old locks, so she will have the privilege of being the first passenger ship to use the new locks. Slight correction, I did not calculate the date correctly, the Wonder will transit the Canal on April 29th. (Saturday). Looks like the Caribbean Princess will be the first ship to use the new locks (that has not transited the Canal previously) and AFAIK the Carnival Splendor will be the first full transit. Think it is safe to say that many on this board would be pleased if Royal added a name to the reservation list! I keep thinking that we will find Vision doing a canal transit when her changed itinerary becomes available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodscruise Posted April 26, 2017 #3437 Share Posted April 26, 2017 I have been following this kind of thread for the last 3-4 years and am always amazed that the Australian and Singapore deployments are always delayed by a few weeks, Last year it was because of the deployment of Ovation of the Seas to Australia, the year before was the relocation of Legend to Brisbane, and the one before that I think it was Explorer moving to Sydney. Any guess what this years redeployment might be for the delay yet again of the Australian, Trans Pacific and Singapore could be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillB48 Posted April 26, 2017 #3438 Share Posted April 26, 2017 I keep thinking that we will find Vision doing a canal transit when her changed itinerary becomes available. Anxiously awaiting the release along with fingers crossed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaveSplasher Posted April 26, 2017 #3439 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Hey I don't know if it's just me but did you all realized they removed Ovation deployment and it's not currently on sale anymore? Btw the China deployment of Quantum and Voyager is already out on sale. What is going on with Ovation and Mariner and the people back at Miami? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OfTheSeasCruiser Posted April 26, 2017 #3440 Share Posted April 26, 2017 (edited) Hey I don't know if it's just me but did you all realized they removed Ovation deployment and it's not currently on sale anymore? Btw the China deployment of Quantum and Voyager is already out on sale. What is going on with Ovation and Mariner and the people back at Miami? Ovation redeployed to Alaska? Edited April 26, 2017 by OfTheSeasCruiser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarea Posted April 26, 2017 #3441 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Redeployed to Alaska? 🤞🏼 I hope not Mariner to Alaska. Not really a cold weather ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Ethanol95 Posted April 26, 2017 #3442 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Redeployed to Alaska? 🤞🏼 Is there another ship sailing Alaska if Ovation doesn't? I think its more than a coincidence that both Ovation and Mariner are left unscheduled. Assuming that Mariner does stay in Singapore/China, it would seem likely that Ovation would be going back and forth between Australia and Singapore. I don't think they would cut down capacity in Singapore after Ovation did quite well this season. That means that Alaska is left out? hmmm... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarea Posted April 26, 2017 #3443 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Is there another ship sailing Alaska if Ovation doesn't? ... I believe Radiance and Explorer are still going to Alaska. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OfTheSeasCruiser Posted April 26, 2017 #3444 Share Posted April 26, 2017 I hope not Mariner to Alaska. Not really a cold weather ship. My post was about Ovation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarea Posted April 26, 2017 #3445 Share Posted April 26, 2017 My post was about Ovation. Sorry, got confused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OfTheSeasCruiser Posted April 26, 2017 #3446 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Sorry, got confused. Haha, I'm just as confused. Too many deployment changes, which is so not like Royal...;p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashland Posted April 26, 2017 #3447 Share Posted April 26, 2017 So disappointed in the China releases today...I guess it's really Singapore I was waiting for...Why can't RCI get their business plan figured out by now :mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skiiergirl Posted April 26, 2017 #3448 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Just read where AD is going for the delayed revitalization in Jan/Feb 2018 with cruises being cancelled. That really surprises me. I don't see any additional sailings between it's last SJU run (4/28-5/5) and its first run from NJ on 5/25. Am overlooking something or any "word" on that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
springaussie Posted April 26, 2017 #3449 Share Posted April 26, 2017 From a Sydney Newspaper. Daily Telegraph. In a major blow to the country’s fastest-growing tourism sector that will have major economic ramifications for NSW, cruise companies are bypassing our city in favour of Melbourne and Brisbane, New Zealand and even further afield in Asia because Sydney Harbour’s Overseas Passenger Terminal is at capacity. The Daily Telegraph can reveal the country’s second biggest cruise company Royal Caribbean Cruises will no longer send its 15-deck Voyager of the Seas ‘mini-city’ to Australia because of the issue. Instead the major cruiseliner will remain in Singapore and China for a year-round season. It’s the first time in 10 years a major cruise operator has cut a service. Managing director Adam Armstrong also said its 12-deck ship Radiance of the Seas will also no longer stop in Sydney, bypassing the Harbour City for Melbourne and New Zealand. “We’ve been talking about one day Sydney will be full. That day has come,” he said. “Sydney will lose 65,000 guests a year from Voyager of the Seas and around $32 million in passenger spend.” Mr Armstrong said China and Singapore will benefit from having the Voyager in their markets rather than in Australia. “It’s extremely frustrating. There is no berthing solution in Sydney. In the interim, Singapore, Hong Kong and China have all built world-class terminals,” he said. “Brisbane will have a solution before Sydney does.” Cruising is Australia’s fastest growth tourism industry, worth $5 billion to the NSW economy and supporting 20,000 jobs. In 2015-16, there were 325 cruise ships visiting NSW. Australia’s biggest cruise company, Carnival Australia, which represents seven cruise brands in the market, including P & O Cruises and Princess Cruises, is also struggling to berth in Sydney, with some ships moving to Brisbane and Melbourne. Carnival Legend will have 10 voyages from Melbourne in 2018 that could have been in Sydney. Carnival Australia will base Queen Elizabeth in Australia for a record two months between February and April 2019 — it’s the longest time any of its current fleet of Queens have been in Australia. But, while the company’s preference was to set sail from Sydney, there were no berths available and, so for the first time, three of its cruises will be from Melbourne. Carnival Australia executive chairman Ann Sherry said the city desperately needs new berthing capacity on the eastern side of the Harbour Bridge. “We are finding ourselves increasingly basing ships in other cities,” she said. “I will keep encouraging discussion at both a state and federal level. This is the last big piece of the tourism puzzle now we have agreement on the second airport and have rebuilt the convention and exhibition centre in Sydney.” Ms Sherry said the best solution to the cruise-ship crisis was sharing access to Garden Island with the Royal Australian Navy. “We are nearing crunch point where we need to find a way to unblock the stalemate in Sydney Harbour and find a way of sharing the Garden Island facility between Navy and cruising for the benefit of Sydney,” she said. Mr Armstrong said Royal Caribbean had helped fund cruise terminals in Miami, Fort Lauderdale in Barcelona, Hong Kong and Singapore — and was willing to throw potentially tens of millions of dollars to build a new cruise terminal in Botany Bay.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
springaussie Posted April 26, 2017 #3450 Share Posted April 26, 2017 So Voyager is off to Singapore and no Australia. Where is Mariner going? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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