CCC3 Posted February 5, 2017 #26 Share Posted February 5, 2017 Custody dispute? Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QueenofEverything Posted February 6, 2017 #27 Share Posted February 6, 2017 Anyone hear what happened? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adjjb12 Posted February 6, 2017 #28 Share Posted February 6, 2017 There's an ambulance and a police car waiting dockside so I don't think it was drugs. Maybe OD? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matj2000 Posted February 6, 2017 #29 Share Posted February 6, 2017 #fakenews Totally agree. People think that a little drugs on a ship is a huge deal. Although I don't partake, I know other who do and have no issues with it on ships. One guy I knew had the entire hallway reeking weed. The room steward gave them spray to minimize the smell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker19 Posted February 6, 2017 #30 Share Posted February 6, 2017 People think that a little drugs on a ship is a huge deal. or a body in the morgue. Every week RCI has 50K+ passengers, chances are one person will make use of that facility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lisa8 Posted February 6, 2017 #31 Share Posted February 6, 2017 or a body in the morgue. Every week RCI has 50K+ passengers, chances are one person will make use of that facility. I dont think so.You comment startled me I had to do research on it. The research shows 200 deaths a year with all cruise ships worldwide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnjen Posted February 6, 2017 #32 Share Posted February 6, 2017 If someone dies, does the ship have a morgue? I don't suppose they stop a cruise if a guest expires unless it's ship related (cross-wide sickness). Cruise ships might. In contrast I was on a Navy ship and we had a Radioman Chief Petty Officer die during a cruise in the Indian Ocean. Imagine our surprise finding his body in a cardboard box in the reefer near boxes of hamburgers, it was the only place to keep him for the time being. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lisa8 Posted February 6, 2017 #33 Share Posted February 6, 2017 His quote is accurate -- RCCL has 50,000 passengers a week and accounts for 23% of cruises booked. 200 deaths per year x 0.23 = 46 RCCL deaths per year or average of 0.88 deaths per week. So on average, about 1 person dies on an RCCL ship per week. Maybe not the ship you're on, but on one of them. 200 deaths worldwide with ALL cruise ships not just RCCL. There are 300 cruise ships world wide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matj2000 Posted February 6, 2017 #34 Share Posted February 6, 2017 Cruise ships might. In contrast I was on a Navy ship and we had a Radioman Chief Petty Officer die during a cruise in the Indian Ocean. Imagine our surprise finding his body in a cardboard box in the reefer near boxes of hamburgers, it was the only place to keep him for the time being. Modern cruise ships are equip with a morgue to accommodate passenger demographics. With 5000+ passengers and many very unhealthy, it is very needed. Warships probably just stick people in the freezer. As they should. No one is expected to die.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daze6399 Posted February 6, 2017 #35 Share Posted February 6, 2017 Modern cruise ships are equip with a morgue to accommodate passenger demographics. With 5000+ passengers and many very unhealthy, it is very needed. Warships probably just stick people in the freezer. As they should. No one is expected to die.... There some irony for you.... No one expected to die on a warship, totally expected to have people die on vacation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rolloman Posted February 6, 2017 #36 Share Posted February 6, 2017 Warships probably just stick people in the freezer. As they should. No one is expected to die.... No one is expected to die on a warship?? I was on a Carrier, The average is 10 who do not make it back per deployment and that is a peace time number..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamloops50 Posted February 6, 2017 #37 Share Posted February 6, 2017 If someone dies, does the ship have a morgue? I don't suppose they stop a cruise if a guest expires unless it's ship related (cross-wide sickness). Yes they do. They can usually store four bodies. They charge $250 and up per day to store it. Sent from my iPad using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matj2000 Posted February 6, 2017 #38 Share Posted February 6, 2017 There some irony for you....No one expected to die on a warship, totally expected to have people die on vacation. Pretty crazy. Much more unhealthy people on a cruise ship than a warship... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CleverFirst Posted February 6, 2017 #39 Share Posted February 6, 2017 When doing stats like that we should probably take into account that royals passenger health overall is probably better than some lines that cater to much older people... so royal may not have a correlating death percentage and passenger percentage. Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merion_Mom Posted February 6, 2017 #40 Share Posted February 6, 2017 There is a lot of made-up stuff on this thread!!!!:eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lisa8 Posted February 6, 2017 #41 Share Posted February 6, 2017 Correct, and RCCL handles 23% of all cruises world wide. So the math works out -- if RCCL handles 23% of cruises, an estimated 46 people die a year on an RCCL cruise ship, somewhere, or an average of 0.88 deaths on RCCL a week. There are 300 cruise ships worldwide and RCCL has 25 ships, so how is it that they handle 23% of cruises? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhoenixCruiser Posted February 6, 2017 #42 Share Posted February 6, 2017 There is a lot of made-up stuff on this thread!!!!:eek: Right! My head is spinning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lisa8 Posted February 6, 2017 #43 Share Posted February 6, 2017 (edited) Because Royal has ships like the Oasis which carries 6500+ passengers and is full most cruises? And every record setting large capacity ship for the past decade has been RCCL, so passenger count is more important than ship count. The 6 largest ships in the world are RCCL. #7 is NCL. Of the top 10 largest ships, 8 are RCCL. Those variances make a huge difference, after about 70 or so cruise ships the occupancy numbers plummet -- so the bottom 230 cruise ships probably hold fewer people than the top 70. in 2015 research shows around 440,000 people cruise on the the big name ships at the same given time, Royal Caribbean accounts for around 69,000 passengers. That does not work out to be 23% to me. I do the math and its 32 deaths per year assuming deaths were distributed according to head count. Even then every time there is a death on a big ship like Royal Caribbean, it would likely make news. I dont even see news three times a month let alone every week. Actually here, deaths are actually documented on each ship http://www.cruiseshipdeaths.com/Deaths_By_Cruise_Line.html In 2016 there were 5 deaths 2015 - 8 deaths 2014 - 1 death 2013 - 2 deaths 2012 - 9 deaths 2011 - 8 deaths 2010 - 8 deaths 2009 - 4 deaths 2008 - 1 death 2007 - 1 death I went back 10 years, so to prove my point, people dont die every week to be put into the morgue on a Royal Caribbean ship. Thats not even 52 deaths in 10 years, from 2007 to 2016 its 47 deaths. So how you figure 52 deaths on a Royal Caribbean ship in a year? Edited February 6, 2017 by Lisa8 Added stats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshuaA Posted February 6, 2017 #44 Share Posted February 6, 2017 When doing stats like that we should probably take into account that royals passenger health overall is probably better than some lines that cater to much older people... so royal may not have a correlating death percentage and passenger percentage. Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk Fooled me, Anthem could have announced a scooter race on Deck 15 and it would've been a Nascar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lisa8 Posted February 6, 2017 #45 Share Posted February 6, 2017 Some of the deaths are suicide overboard so likely the ship is not going to wait around to find the body so it can be put in the morgue. The body itself might not even be found. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshuaA Posted February 6, 2017 #46 Share Posted February 6, 2017 Does RCI have a 911 system and what kind of paramedics and/or health-medical personnel are on board? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lisa8 Posted February 6, 2017 #47 Share Posted February 6, 2017 Does RCI have a 911 system and what kind of paramedics and/or health-medical personnel are on board? I read that they are fully equipped. http://www.******************.com/2015/09/15/how-royal-caribbean-provides-medical-care-sea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shofer Posted February 6, 2017 #48 Share Posted February 6, 2017 Pretty crazy. Much more unhealthy people on a cruise ship than a warship... Well, you know the old saying "The longer the cruise, the older the passenger". On our last 14-day Hawaiian cruise in '06, the comedian even joked that the ship was full of very old people and their parents! I spoke with one of the nurses and she told me that the medical department was busier than usual with the current demographic on board. Sue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ocean Dancer Posted February 6, 2017 #49 Share Posted February 6, 2017 Cruise ships might. In contrast I was on a Navy ship and we had a Radioman Chief Petty Officer die during a cruise in the Indian Ocean. Imagine our surprise finding his body in a cardboard box in the reefer near boxes of hamburgers, it was the only place to keep him for the time being. And what ship where you on? DH was on several Naval ships and all had morgues. BTW, we sailed Carnival many years ago with two bodies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldgirl2 Posted February 6, 2017 #50 Share Posted February 6, 2017 Ok....... sooooo anyone ever find out what actually did happened on the Liberty?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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