Single Smoking Thread (Use for all smoking discussions on HAL) )

[Fouremco]

19 minutes ago, Ipeeinthepools said:

Can someone tell me about the smoking area on the Noordam by the rear pool?  Does the smoke get blown out and affect a much larger area?

The smoke certainly travels beyond the confines of the designated area, but the extent to which it does varies with the number of smokers puffing away at any given time. We've simply learned to avoid the Sea View Bar area completely.

[Ipeeinthepools]

1 hour ago, Fouremco said:

The smoke certainly travels beyond the confines of the designated area, but the extent to which it does varies with the number of smokers puffing away at any given time. We've simply learned to avoid the Sea View Bar area completely.

 

Thanks, I was afraid that was the situation.

[RuthC]

7 hours ago, Ipeeinthepools said:

Can someone tell me about the smoking area on the Noordam by the rear pool?  Does the smoke get blown out and affect a much larger area?

Depends a lot on the speed and direction of the wind. 

[Ipeeinthepools]

4 hours ago, RuthC said:

Depends a lot on the speed and direction of the wind. 

Thanks for the info 

[jsn55]

22 hours ago, Ipeeinthepools said:

Can someone tell me about the smoking area on the Noordam by the rear pool?  Does the smoke get blown out and affect a much larger area?

I would assume the smoking area would not affect the rest of the ship while underway ... isn't that why they put it aft?

[Ipeeinthepools]

29 minutes ago, jsn55 said:

I would assume the smoking area would not affect the rest of the ship while underway ... isn't that why they put it aft?

 

You know what they say about assuming something.  I’m sure that’s the plan but it doesn’t work very well on the Rotterdam.  

[pilot]

On Nieuw Amsterdam the smoke was very noticeable on the starboard side of the Lido buffet. 

[Ipeeinthepools]

26 minutes ago, pilot said:

On Nieuw Amsterdam the smoke was very noticeable on the starboard side of the Lido buffet. 

That’s not good.

[Haljo1935]

It is an open area so the smoke will move about as the air does.

[scooter6139]

The Aerodynamics of the aft pool area where the smoke does some very odd things depending on wind direction and where the smokers are standing.  Was on deck 10 above on Westerdamn during sail and any shift in the breeze could bring all the scent and 2nd had smoke up into our faces.  We just moved to another spot until it changed again. Surface dynamics and such.   

[KroozNut]

4 hours ago, jsn55 said:

I would assume the smoking area would not affect the rest of the ship while underway ... isn't that why they put it aft?

Yes..

[JAFM]

Are bonfires allowed in the staterooms?  We like a nice evening bonfire.  Does HAL provide kindling?

[kirkc]

Bonfires are only allowed in Neptune Suites on Pinnacle class ships. Kindling is included in the Have It All package.😉

[Haljo1935]

26 minutes ago, kirkc said:

Bonfires are only allowed in Neptune Suites on Pinnacle class ships. Kindling is included in the Have It All package.😉

Good to know - I thought it was Pinnacle Suite only. I will tell DH he can unpack the kindling.

Edited March 20 by Haljo1935
Typo

[KroozNut]

4 hours ago, Haljo1935 said:

Good to know - I thought it was Pinnacle Suite only. I will tell DH he can unpack the kindling.

Good idea.. get rid of some of that unnecessary extra weight 👍

[scooter6139]

1 hour ago, KroozNut said:

Good idea.. get rid of some of that unnecessary extra weight 👍

That's what I call the wife's shoe bag/suitcase, as she likes to have lots of options.  🙄

[Bill B]

On 3/20/2024 at 9:23 PM, JAFM said:

Are bonfires allowed in the staterooms?  We like a nice evening bonfire.  Does HAL provide kindling?

 

No, but the Oak Room on the Noordam - designed as smoking lounge (where you can't smoke anymore) - has a beautiful fireplace. The woman who claims to be allergic to purified water 🤔 and can only drink spring water, is also allergic to wood. So, kindling has been banned. 🙄

[jsn55]

8 hours ago, Bill B said:

 

No, but the Oak Room on the Noordam - designed as smoking lounge (where you can't smoke anymore) - has a beautiful fireplace. The woman who claims to be allergic to purified water 🤔 and can only drink spring water, is also allergic to wood. So, kindling has been banned. 🙄

I think that woman should soak her kindling in purified water.

[KroozNut]

On 3/23/2024 at 9:20 AM, jsn55 said:

I think that woman should soak her kindling in purified water.

Or should be banned..

[mightycruisequeen]

On 3/23/2024 at 2:58 AM, Bill B said:

 

No, but the Oak Room on the Noordam - designed as smoking lounge (where you can't smoke anymore) - has a beautiful fireplace. 

According to HAL's website, the Oak Room on Noordam does currently allow smoking.   

For the comfort of all of our guests, all staterooms (cabins), showrooms and most other indoor areas are designated non-smoking. No smoking of any kind will be permitted on any stateroom verandah.

Designated Smoking Areas

Eurodam, Nieuw Amsterdam, Noordam, Oosterdam, Westerdam, Zuiderdam

• Sea View Bar area
• Oak Room (Noordam only, including cigar and pipe smoking)

Koningsdam, Nieuw Statendam, Rotterdam

• Sea View Bar area
• Casino-smoking is allowed in designated areas for active players only and only when outside of 12NM from the Netherlands

Volendam, Zaandam

• Sea View Bar area
• Casino-smoking is allowed in designated areas for active players only and only when outside of 12NM from the Netherlands
• Sports Deck, outside Crow's Nest

Cigar and pipe smoking is not allowed anywhere inside the ship; it is only permitted on the outside decks where smoking is otherwise allowed.

Electronic cigarettes are not permitted in staterooms or in other public areas of the ship other than designated smoking areas.

Any guest who smokes inside staterooms or on verandahs in violation of our policy will be charged a US$250 cleaning fee per day of violation and will risk being removed from the ship for repeated violations.

Holland America Line reserves the right at any time to modify the smoking policy onboard or alter the locations where smoking is permissible.

Edited March 26 by mightycruisequeen

[Mary229]

Restatement

 

the website gibberish is always superseded by the cruise contract.  The current contract states:

 

No Guest under the age of 21 may purchase, possess or consume alcohol on board during the Cruise. No Guest under the age of 18 shall be permitted to engage in any gaming activities on board any vessel or to purchase cigarettes or tobacco products. On some sailings the minimum age for alcohol is under 21 and each Guest agrees to abide by whatever alcohol age restriction is in place on the vessel during the Guest’s cruise. Indoor areas on board the vessels are non-smoking and smoking is only permitted in designated sections. Outdoor smoking areas are clearly posted throughout the vessel. Smoking is prohibited in Guest staterooms and on balconies. Violations to the onboard smoking policy will result in a $250 cleaning fee for each occurrence, which will be charged to Your stateroom account. Repeated violations may result in You being disembarked prior to the end of the Cruise without any refund and at Your cost. The use of electronic cigarettes, personal vaporizers, or electronic nicotine delivery systems is allowed within the confines of the Guest's stateroom (balcony not included) and within designated smoking areas only.

[no-name-at-all]

Does anyone know if smoking in the casino on the Volendam gets out into any of the public areas?

[sandiego1]

2 hours ago, no-name-at-all said:

Does anyone know if smoking in the casino on the Volendam gets out into any of the public areas?

Yes it does.

[Bill B]

On 3/26/2024 at 10:34 PM, mightycruisequeen said:

According to HAL's website, the Oak Room on Noordam does currently allow smoking.   

 

You are correct.

However, remember the adage - "Don't believe everything you read on the internet." (especially HAL's website) 🚬

[Mary229]

3 hours ago, Bill B said:

 

You are correct.

However, remember the adage - "Don't believe everything you read on the internet." (especially HAL's website) 🚬

Exactly.  The website is fraught with errors.  The cruise contract is the only document you can hold them to.