lollylew Posted September 16, 2019 #1 Share Posted September 16, 2019 I plan to sail in 2022 to the Mediterranean and would REALLY like to do it on a Carnival ship. I know that with the change of shipyards, it won't be possible except when an older ship gets refurbished. Have there been any announcements lately about any ships having this done over in Italy? Or where could I find this information? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trvlgirlmq Posted September 16, 2019 #2 Share Posted September 16, 2019 They do have a new build planned for 2022 deployment. No information has been published on dates though. If you move it up to 2021 the Legend is spotted on several port calendars indicating Northern Europe sailings for June -August and Med for September & October. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xDisconnections Posted September 16, 2019 #3 Share Posted September 16, 2019 Why limit yourself to Carnival? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Essiesmom Posted September 16, 2019 #4 Share Posted September 16, 2019 4 minutes ago, xDisconnections said: Why limit yourself to Carnival? If you have enough loyalty points to get free laundry, that would be enough for me. EM 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xDisconnections Posted September 16, 2019 #5 Share Posted September 16, 2019 5 minutes ago, Essiesmom said: If you have enough loyalty points to get free laundry, that would be enough for me. EM If it were that important, the few dollars to have it sent out shouldn't make or break anyone planning a cruise... especially to Europe. Although the laundry perk on Carnival was nice, it wasn't too much of an inconvenience to lose until I earned it back on Princess (albeit back to unlimited). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trvlgirlmq Posted September 16, 2019 #6 Share Posted September 16, 2019 16 minutes ago, xDisconnections said: Why limit yourself to Carnival? Having looked at other cruise lines Carnival is usually the best bargain even in the Med. We have been wanting to do a British Isles cruise forever and Princess has a great itinerary but it would cost my family over $10,000 for just the cruise before gratuities. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xDisconnections Posted September 16, 2019 #7 Share Posted September 16, 2019 24 minutes ago, trvlgirlmq said: Having looked at other cruise lines Carnival is usually the best bargain even in the Med. We have been wanting to do a British Isles cruise forever and Princess has a great itinerary but it would cost my family over $10,000 for just the cruise before gratuities. Might be the best bargain but certainly not always the best value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trvlgirlmq Posted September 16, 2019 #8 Share Posted September 16, 2019 9 minutes ago, xDisconnections said: Might be the best bargain but certainly not always the best value. It's all relative. Maybe when I don't have to pay for kids to travel I can branch out and try other lines. For now I have to be careful with my travel funds and get the most bang for my buck. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xDisconnections Posted September 16, 2019 #9 Share Posted September 16, 2019 15 minutes ago, trvlgirlmq said: It's all relative. Maybe when I don't have to pay for kids to travel I can branch out and try other lines. For now I have to be careful with my travel funds and get the most bang for my buck. You have to do what works best for your travel patterns. I would never make the mistake of doing Carnival in Europe again and I’ve been lucky to subsequently do Europe on Princess and Royal Caribbean soon with another European cruise in the early planning period. Luckily I learned not to make the mistake of taking Carnival to Alaska. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christieSF Posted September 16, 2019 #10 Share Posted September 16, 2019 1 hour ago, xDisconnections said: You have to do what works best for your travel patterns. I would never make the mistake of doing Carnival in Europe again and I’ve been lucky to subsequently do Europe on Princess and Royal Caribbean soon with another European cruise in the early planning period. Luckily I learned not to make the mistake of taking Carnival to Alaska. Can you expand on why Carnival in Europe was bad? We're doing a Med cruise next summer on the Legend and I have only read positive reviews about both the Legend and Carnival in Europe. I'd love to hear the other side of the coin. Our financial alternatives would be a shorter Norwegian, RCI, or MSC cruise or doing it by land. Princess would be about $5000 more expensive for our family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crzndeb Posted September 16, 2019 #11 Share Posted September 16, 2019 17 minutes ago, christieSF said: Can you expand on why Carnival in Europe was bad? We're doing a Med cruise next summer on the Legend and I have only read positive reviews about both the Legend and Carnival in Europe. I'd love to hear the other side of the coin. Our financial alternatives would be a shorter Norwegian, RCI, or MSC cruise or doing it by land. Princess would be about $5000 more expensive for our family. I will let xDisconnections give your their experience, but I did 2 legs on the Vista, and I have 2 legs booked on the Legend next year. I had no issues at all in Europe with Carnival. In fact, I liked that they allowed us to bring on alcohol on at embarkation and in ports. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruizergal70 Posted September 16, 2019 #12 Share Posted September 16, 2019 (edited) I did a 10 day Mediterranean cruise on Carnival in 2018. Currently booked for Northern Europe in 2020 on Carnival. There's nothing wrong with Carnival's European cruises. I say it all comes down to expectations. You essentially get the same Carnival product that you would find on any of their journey cruises. Edited September 16, 2019 by cruizergal70 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare jimbo5544 Posted September 16, 2019 #13 Share Posted September 16, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, xDisconnections said: You have to do what works best for your travel patterns. I would never make the mistake of doing Carnival in Europe again and I’ve been lucky to subsequently do Europe on Princess and Royal Caribbean soon with another European cruise in the early planning period. Luckily I learned not to make the mistake of taking Carnival to Alaska. Carnival is Carnival is Carnival (and that really is a good thing), if you and John kiss and make up we can get you back on some funnel ships on a regular basis. I know you miss the FUN. Edited September 16, 2019 by jimbo5544 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trvlgirlmq Posted September 16, 2019 #14 Share Posted September 16, 2019 1 hour ago, christieSF said: Can you expand on why Carnival in Europe was bad? We're doing a Med cruise next summer on the Legend and I have only read positive reviews about both the Legend and Carnival in Europe. I'd love to hear the other side of the coin. Our financial alternatives would be a shorter Norwegian, RCI, or MSC cruise or doing it by land. Princess would be about $5000 more expensive for our family. We did a Med cruise on Vista in 2016 and to this date it is the favorite vacation our family has ever taken! The ports were all new to us and we just had the best time exploring new places and eating of course. We did enjoy being on a new ship but really viewed it as the vehicle to get us to new places. I can't wait to book another Europe cruise on Carnival. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare jimbo5544 Posted September 16, 2019 #15 Share Posted September 16, 2019 12 minutes ago, trvlgirlmq said: We did a Med cruise on Vista in 2016 and to this date it is the favorite vacation our family has ever taken! The ports were all new to us and we just had the best time exploring new places and eating of course. We did enjoy being on a new ship but really viewed it as the vehicle to get us to new places. I can't wait to book another Europe cruise on Carnival. I AGREE on all counts. It was a really special cruise for us as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickrate Posted September 16, 2019 #16 Share Posted September 16, 2019 3 hours ago, xDisconnections said: Might be the best bargain but certainly not always the best value. Cruising Carnival in the Med is totally different from cruising with them in the Caribbean. Diiferent clientel. Pat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickrate Posted September 16, 2019 #17 Share Posted September 16, 2019 1 hour ago, crzndeb said: I will let xDisconnections give your their experience, but I did 2 legs on the Vista, and I have 2 legs booked on the Legend next year. I had no issues at all in Europe with Carnival. In fact, I liked that they allowed us to bring on alcohol on at embarkation and in ports. We as well have done Vista and Horizon in Europe and have the same 2 cruises booked on the Legend and have enjoyed all the cruises with Carnival inEurope. Pat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare jimbo5544 Posted September 16, 2019 #18 Share Posted September 16, 2019 18 minutes ago, quickrate said: Cruising Carnival in the Med is totally different from cruising with them in the Caribbean. Diiferent clientel. Pat I have not found that to be the case, we have found returning Carnival guests to be the vast majority of cruisers on CCL med cruises. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19cruiser59 Posted September 16, 2019 #19 Share Posted September 16, 2019 12 minutes ago, jimbo5544 said: I have not found that to be the case, we have found returning Carnival guests to be the vast majority of cruisers on CCL med cruises. What about the ratio of kids to adults when comparing a carnival med cruise to a carnival Caribbean cruise? Do you find fewer kids on the med cruise? This is not an anti kids post i am just curious as to how it compares. 🙂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare jimbo5544 Posted September 16, 2019 #20 Share Posted September 16, 2019 Of course it depends on the time of year. I certainly do not have access to statistics, but on our 3 med cruises, we were surprised at the number of kids (obviously less than on a Caribbean cruise though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xDisconnections Posted September 17, 2019 #21 Share Posted September 17, 2019 7 hours ago, jimbo5544 said: Carnival is Carnival is Carnival (and that really is a good thing), if you and John kiss and make up we can get you back on some funnel ships on a regular basis. I know you miss the FUN. Lol, who knows what the future brings. Maybe I’ll fall in love with the new Carnival again soon... we’ll see. I’m sure you’ll be one of the first to know 🙂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xDisconnections Posted September 17, 2019 #22 Share Posted September 17, 2019 7 hours ago, quickrate said: Cruising Carnival in the Med is totally different from cruising with them in the Caribbean. Diiferent clientel. Pat Sure, the targeted demographic may be different but are you really willing to say the passengers are more desirable on a European sailing than a Caribbean sailing with Carnival? Please help me understand what you are suggesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickrate Posted September 17, 2019 #23 Share Posted September 17, 2019 (edited) 10 hours ago, xDisconnections said: Sure, the targeted demographic may be different but are you really willing to say the passengers are more desirable on a European sailing than a Caribbean sailing with Carnival? Please help me understand what you are suggesting. I'm not saying that at all. Just a totally different experience. I have no issue with Carnival passengers on Caribbean sailings as well as European sailings. I have enjoyed every Carnival Cruise I have been on. Obviously, they are not your choice of cruise line. To each their own. Pat Edited September 17, 2019 by quickrate word spelled wrong 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickrate Posted September 17, 2019 #24 Share Posted September 17, 2019 17 hours ago, jimbo5544 said: I have not found that to be the case, we have found returning Carnival guests to be the vast majority of cruisers on CCL med cruises. I think you misunderstood what I was saying. On European Carnival cruises there are very few families and kids and yes, many regular Carnival customers. The atmosphere is much differen than those in the Caribbean- I like both experiences, they are just different from each other. Pat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mafiadon Posted September 17, 2019 #25 Share Posted September 17, 2019 21 hours ago, xDisconnections said: You have to do what works best for your travel patterns. I would never make the mistake of doing Carnival in Europe again and I’ve been lucky to subsequently do Europe on Princess and Royal Caribbean soon with another European cruise in the early planning period. Luckily I learned not to make the mistake of taking Carnival to Alaska. I did Carnival in Europe and it was a fantastic cruise, why is the reason you wouldn't do Carnival. Just curious as we had over 100 of us and all loved the cruise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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