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Can I do this cruise? San Diego to Mexico to Vancouver?

DaveOKC

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44 minutes ago, kevingastreich said:

If they offer it...you can book it. When you book a cruise, you are not required to research laws and rules to make sure you are not violating any.

Yes.  There are people who book several cruises "just in case" and then cancel the ones they don't want to do.  The cruise line doesn't know if that's what someone is doing when they book cruises that can violate the PVSA.  Until it gets too close, and then they will notify you that you have to cancel one or the other.

 

But, it's certainly a better idea to find out ahead of time whether two cruises you may want to take can be combined or not.

 

 

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12 minutes ago, MisterBill99 said:

Aren't you booking it as two separate cruises? If so (and probably even if not), you'd need to go thru immigration between cruise segments anyway, so it would not be an issue.

It really doesn't matter if you go thru immigration or not. It all depends on where the cruise begins and ends for you.

 

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15 minutes ago, MisterBill99 said:

 

So even if you book it as two separate cruises it is considered one?

The PVSA looks at where you got on, and where you eventually get off, and where you stopped. Going through Immigration midway through has absolutely nothing to do with the issue.

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5 minutes ago, MisterBill99 said:

 

So even if you book it as two separate cruises it is considered one?

You could book as many back to backs as you want. As far as the PVSA is concerned, like @CruiserBruce said, it only matters where you board the ship and get off. Time does not matter either.

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5 minutes ago, richwmn said:

You could book as many back to backs as you want. As far as the PVSA is concerned, like @CruiserBruce said, it only matters where you board the ship and get off. Time does not matter either.

And, again, as mentioned previously,  the key rule is...a non US flagged cruise shall not transport passengers between 2 US ports without a stop at a "distant foreign port ". No mention of where you go through Immigration in that.

 

The closest "distant foreign ports" are not in Canada or central America.  They are further away than that. Cartagena and the ABC islands are used for meeting PVSA during repo cruises. Those are the closest distant foreign ports.

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21 hours ago, Shmoo here said:

Yes.  There are people who book several cruises "just in case" and then cancel the ones they don't want to do.  The cruise line doesn't know if that's what someone is doing when they book cruises that can violate the PVSA.  Until it gets too close, and then they will notify you that you have to cancel one or the other.

 

But, it's certainly a better idea to find out ahead of time whether two cruises you may want to take can be combined or not.

 

 

If you leave one ship and get on another ship...it's a new cruise so no problem.  If you are on a B2B that the cruise line offers...again, no problem. If people want to try and find a problem where none exists...be my guest.

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1 hour ago, kevingastreich said:

If you leave one ship and get on another ship...it's a new cruise so no problem.  If you are on a B2B that the cruise line offers...again, no problem. If people want to try and find a problem where none exists...be my guest.

There's been no discussion saying that the 2 cruises are on different ships, but, yes, there's no problem if that's what's booked.

 

As to booking a B2B (on the same ship) where the two cruises taken together there could be a problem. 

 

I doubt that the people who've been notified 3 weeks before a booked B2B that violated the PVSA they have to cancel one or the other of their cruises would agree with you.

 

Yes, I know it's happened.

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26 minutes ago, retafcruiser said:

You do understand why, correct? 

 

Of course. That’s why I didn’t book it when I saw it.

 

Editing to clarify that I didn’t need the email to tell me what I already knew but I think it was a good idea for HAL to send it.

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11 hours ago, *Miss G* said:

I’m doing a Vancouver-Seattle itinerary and received this email regarding the cruise immediately before mine... same ship.

 

 

 

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I have gotten this type of email in the past, so thats why I am asking ahead of booking

 

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Ok - just got a casino mailer that included the Mexico cruise, so I went ahead and booked it (already had the Coastal booked), so we will see (HAL PCC did not say anything about it so I assume it is OK - will double check though).

 

Thanks for all the information!

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