ipeeinthepool Posted January 10, 2021 #1 Share Posted January 10, 2021 I'm considering sailing on the Nieuw Statendam when cruising resumes and I'm looking for some help on identifying the smoking areas. I'm sensitive to smoke and I want to avoid selecting a balcony cabin above a smoking area. Many other cruise lines allow smoking on the lifeboat deck on either port or starboard sides and I want to avoid that situation. For the Nieuw Statendam is it true the only smoking areas are in the Sun Bar and in the casino? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Essiesmom Posted January 10, 2021 #2 Share Posted January 10, 2021 You might browse through this thread: 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ipeeinthepool Posted January 10, 2021 Author #3 Share Posted January 10, 2021 4 minutes ago, Essiesmom said: You might browse through this thread: That's a long tread a couple years old and I did check the last few pages. I was hoping someone could answer a specific question for a specific ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruiserBruce Posted January 10, 2021 #4 Share Posted January 10, 2021 7 minutes ago, ipeeinthepool said: That's a long tread a couple years old and I did check the last few pages. I was hoping someone could answer a specific question for a specific ship. The answer is in the info posted by Essiesmom. The Sea Bar area, and the casino are the only legal smoking areas. There are no cabins above the Sea Bar. The Casino is an internal room with no window that open to the outside. You can't have a balcony above a smoking area...they don't exist. If someone smokes on their balcony, and you get smoke, report it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ipeeinthepool Posted January 10, 2021 Author #5 Share Posted January 10, 2021 It's good to know that you can't have a balcony above a smoking area. Thank you. I'm not sure I've ever been on a ship that doesn't have a smoking area on some area of the lifeboat deck. Holland stated policy also includes: Note that outdoor smoking areas may be designated as port or starboard, varying by ship. I wanted to know if they also had any additional smoking areas. I don't think I've ever been on a ship where there was only 1 outdoor smoking area, even to a non-smoker this seems pretty restrictive so I wanted to confirm the areas on a specific ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruiserBruce Posted January 10, 2021 #6 Share Posted January 10, 2021 17 minutes ago, ipeeinthepool said: It's good to know that you can't have a balcony above a smoking area. Thank you. I'm not sure I've ever been on a ship that doesn't have a smoking area on some area of the lifeboat deck. Holland stated policy also includes: Note that outdoor smoking areas may be designated as port or starboard, varying by ship. I wanted to know if they also had any additional smoking areas. I don't think I've ever been on a ship where there was only 1 outdoor smoking area, even to a non-smoker this seems pretty restrictive so I wanted to confirm the areas on a specific ship. Again, your info has been posted here and in the Smoking thread, where all smoking discussions are supposed to be posted. The comment on port or starboard refers to which side the Seaview Bar smoking is on. Sometimes it's in front of the bar (starboard) sometimes not...placed on the port side. Other than casino and Seaview Bar area, there are no other legal smoking areas on HAL ships. None. Full stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Roz Posted January 10, 2021 #7 Share Posted January 10, 2021 Ever since HAL changed their smoking policy, I've never been a ship that has smoking on the lifeboat deck. My sister is a smoker so I'm very aware of the smoking areas. We try to get an aft cabin on a higher deck so she just has to walk up one or two flights to the Seaview Bar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zelker Posted January 10, 2021 #8 Share Posted January 10, 2021 (edited) From HAL's website, Know Before You Go ... SMOKING POLICY All staterooms, suites, and verandahs are non-smoking. Guests in violation of our policy will be charged a $250 per day cleaning fee. E-cigarettes are permitted in staterooms, otherwise only in designated smoking areas. Except as otherwise noted, cigar and pipe smoking is not allowed anywhere inside the ship; it is only permitted in designated outdoor smoking areas. Designated Smoking Areas - Eurodam, Nieuw Amsterdam, Noordam, Oosterdam, and Westerdam, Zuiderdam º Sea View Bar area º Oak Room (Noordam only, including cigar and pipe smoking) Koningsdam, Nieuw Statendam º Sea View Bar area º Casino (designated nights, active players only) Amsterdam, Maasdam, Volendam, and Zaandam º Sea View Bar area º Sports Deck, outside Crow’s Nest º Casino (designated nights, active players only) Rotterdam, and Veendam º The Retreat Bar area º Sports Deck, outside Crow’s Nest º Casino (designated nights, active players only) Note that outdoor smoking areas may be designated as port or starboard, varying by ship. Please comply with ship signage. Holland America Line reserves the right at any time to modify the smoking policy onboard or alter the locations where smoking is permissible. Edited January 10, 2021 by zelker 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ipeeinthepool Posted January 10, 2021 Author #9 Share Posted January 10, 2021 36 minutes ago, Roz said: Ever since HAL changed their smoking policy, I've never been a ship that has smoking on the lifeboat deck. My sister is a smoker so I'm very aware of the smoking areas. We try to get an aft cabin on a higher deck so she just has to walk up one or two flights to the Seaview Bar. Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leerathje Posted January 10, 2021 #10 Share Posted January 10, 2021 59 minutes ago, zelker said: From HAL's website, Know Before You Go ... SMOKING POLICY All staterooms, suites, and verandahs are non-smoking. Guests in violation of our policy will be charged a $250 per day cleaning fee. E-cigarettes are permitted in staterooms, otherwise only in designated smoking areas. Except as otherwise noted, cigar and pipe smoking is not allowed anywhere inside the ship; it is only permitted in designated outdoor smoking areas. Designated Smoking Areas - Eurodam, Nieuw Amsterdam, Noordam, Oosterdam, and Westerdam, Zuiderdam º Sea View Bar area º Oak Room (Noordam only, including cigar and pipe smoking) Koningsdam, Nieuw Statendam º Sea View Bar area º Casino (designated nights, active players only) Amsterdam, Maasdam, Volendam, and Zaandam º Sea View Bar area º Sports Deck, outside Crow’s Nest º Casino (designated nights, active players only) Rotterdam, and Veendam º The Retreat Bar area º Sports Deck, outside Crow’s Nest º Casino (designated nights, active players only) Note that outdoor smoking areas may be designated as port or starboard, varying by ship. Please comply with ship signage. Holland America Line reserves the right at any time to modify the smoking policy onboard or alter the locations where smoking is permissible. Except the several of these ships listed on the above post were sold. The information on here is about the Rotterdam that was sold, and so the Rotterdam VII info will be the same as the Koningsdam and Nieuw Statendam. L. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare VMax1700 Posted January 10, 2021 #11 Share Posted January 10, 2021 30 minutes ago, leerathje said: Except the several of these ships listed on the above post were sold. The information on here is about the Rotterdam that was sold, and so the Rotterdam VII info will be the same as the Koningsdam and Nieuw Statendam. L. We could hope that Rotterdam VII is smoke free or at the very least no smoking inside the ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Crew News Posted January 10, 2021 #12 Share Posted January 10, 2021 4 hours ago, ipeeinthepool said: I'm considering sailing on the Nieuw Statendam when cruising resumes and I'm looking for some help on identifying the smoking areas. I'm sensitive to smoke and I want to avoid selecting a balcony cabin above a smoking area. Many other cruise lines allow smoking on the lifeboat deck on either port or starboard sides and I want to avoid that situation. For the Nieuw Statendam is it true the only smoking areas are in the Sun Bar and in the casino? Thanks It must be noted that only a small portion of the Casino allows smoking and that area is fitted with some very efficient exhaust fans to negate the smoke from moving to other areas of the Casino. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ipeeinthepool Posted January 10, 2021 Author #13 Share Posted January 10, 2021 1 minute ago, Crew News said: It must be noted that only a small portion of the Casino allows smoking and that area is fitted with some very efficient exhaust fans to negate the smoke from moving to other areas of the Casino. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmoviezombie Posted January 17, 2021 #14 Share Posted January 17, 2021 On 1/10/2021 at 10:51 AM, Crew News said: only a small portion of the Casino allows smoking We have found this depends a lot on the ship. On some ships it's hard to avoid walking thru the Casino and the smoke can be very noticeable and annoying, other ships you bypass the casino and/or you don't notice the smoke. And yes, I agree with others, the only other place you get smoke is up on one side of the aft pool deck, which is easy to avoid. Never smelt smoke anywhere else on a HAL ship. I have read rumors on CC about avoiding the cabins directly under the aft pool deck because sometimes the smoke gets sucked down to the balconies, but I would avoid those from the deck chair scraping noises anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare CineGraphic Posted January 17, 2021 #15 Share Posted January 17, 2021 On 1/10/2021 at 9:54 AM, CruiserBruce said: your info has been posted here and in the Smoking thread, where all smoking discussions are supposed to be posted. Dear OP, Never take anyone who makes up their own rules, seriously. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruiserBruce Posted January 17, 2021 #16 Share Posted January 17, 2021 1 hour ago, CineGraphic said: Dear OP, Never take anyone who makes up their own rules, seriously. You might notice the title of the Sticky at the top of the board...particularly the phrase "for all smoking discussions". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottC4746 Posted January 18, 2021 #17 Share Posted January 18, 2021 On 1/10/2021 at 5:50 AM, ipeeinthepool said: I'm considering sailing on the Nieuw Statendam when cruising resumes and I'm looking for some help on identifying the smoking areas. I'm sensitive to smoke and I want to avoid selecting a balcony cabin above a smoking area. Many other cruise lines allow smoking on the lifeboat deck on either port or starboard sides and I want to avoid that situation. For the Nieuw Statendam is it true the only smoking areas are in the Sun Bar and in the casino? Thanks I cannot tell you too much about this ship or smoking, but will say I am an RCCL convertee to HAL. Went on a 7 nighter Mexico on Eurodam and fell in love with HAL. Service is top notch, we thought the food was very good, and Tamrand (sp) is worth the fee we went twice. HAL does draw and older crowd. I was 54 when I went and it was about my age give about 5 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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