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On 6/20/2021 at 9:59 AM, pooky303 said:

Wow thanks so much for all your help. I am using a credit card for our account which doesn't charge for currency conversion (Halifax Clarity) so hopefully this will be ok. Didn't really want to purchase US$ if I didn't need to as unlikely to use them elsewhere in the future. I think I will just use my card. Thanks for all the advice!

Generally, credit cards charge a % fee for charging cash.  

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On 3/4/2022 at 12:15 AM, caribill said:

 

 

postcardswansea asked about chips. Looks as if the response is about slot machines, not the gaming tables where chips are used.

Works the same whether it’s slots or table games.  They keep an eye out on your wagers vs. time.  If you “buy in” $10,000 worth at a table, don’t bet, and then cash out later in your trip, you won’t receive any comps.  Likewise, if you get a ton of chips, and proceed to bet minimum stakes, or big bets, they track your betting accordingly.

 

In earlier times in Vegas, Tahoe, etc., slot players had an advantage as there were no on machine tracking systems, and machines were too spread out to effectively track player activity.  So slot players were tracked on a cash in - cash out basis.  Many people had others cash in their money for them, to keep the tracking in their favor (for comps and taxes).  That’s all changed now though, and casinos are dependent on accurate tracking of player activity for any type of comps.  There are systems in place now to automate tracking of table players, so put bosses don’t have to do the manual entry to track.  In Vegas, you give them your card, and then they track when you bet and when you sit out.  They keep score of table minimum bets, and can also log higher bet activity.  I’m sure on ship, they use similar methods.  

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32 minutes ago, West Coast Gal said:

DH just won $9000 in jackpot bonuses on the first night on the slots . .  the rest of the nights . .lost . . .lost . . .lost . . .lost - gave it all back with a little extra

Limitations - Imgflip

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7 hours ago, WAvoyager said:

 I’m sure on ship, they use similar methods.  

 

I would sure like to know how they do this.

 

If I put a chip down for roulette or craps, how do they automatically keep track that I placed a minimum bet or used a hire value chip?

 

Or if playing 21 or poker at a table, how could they possibly track how I am betting?

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3 hours ago, caribill said:

 

I would sure like to know how they do this.

 

If I put a chip down for roulette or craps, how do they automatically keep track that I placed a minimum bet or used a hire value chip?

 

Or if playing 21 or poker at a table, how could they possibly track how I am betting?

Cameras and pit bosses?  And in Vegas, they have automation which uses your player card, cameras, and RFID devices in the chips you use (“Color In!”).  That’s why they always want players to buy in a color.  And believe me, they know exactly how much you bet each spin once you get a color.  And for non- color chips, you have to bet the minimum, so they know the lower boundary.  If you bet higher, consistently, it’s noted and tracked.  If not consistently, they probably err on the lower end.

 

there are lots of articles and books out there.  Here’s a clif notes recap from a LV insider:  https://www.lasvegasadvisor.com/question/tracking-table-game-play/

 

 

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I think the slots are a waste of time on board, this type of machine is available almost everywhere and therefore not that special.  I find the table games; Blackjack and Craps are worth around $50 investment on two nights of a cruise.  The operators seem to be a lot more helpful on how to play and what your options are.  Last cruise November 21, the craps crew were very helpful on what the bets were if we wanted to do well and I gave up when my profits were $179 but we had a couple of hours entertainment.  If I were $100 down, it is cheaper than an excursion on the bus and more exciting.  It is not a way to make money, more a way of meeting a crowd of friendly people having a good time.

 

Regards John

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1 hour ago, john watson said:

I think the slots are a waste of time on board, this type of machine is available almost everywhere and therefore not that special.  I find the table games; Blackjack and Craps are worth around $50 investment on two nights of a cruise.  The operators seem to be a lot more helpful on how to play and what your options are.  Last cruise November 21, the craps crew were very helpful on what the bets were if we wanted to do well and I gave up when my profits were $179 but we had a couple of hours entertainment.  If I were $100 down, it is cheaper than an excursion on the bus and more exciting.  It is not a way to make money, more a way of meeting a crowd of friendly people having a good time.

 

Regards John

That's exactly my view on gambling. If i can get a few hours of enjoyment out of $100, it's money well spent. The cost of dinner out costs at least that.

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19 hours ago, john watson said:

I think the slots are a waste of time on board, this type of machine is available almost everywhere and therefore not that special.  I find the table games; Blackjack and Craps are worth around $50 investment on two nights of a cruise.  The operators seem to be a lot more helpful on how to play and what your options are.  Last cruise November 21, the craps crew were very helpful on what the bets were if we wanted to do well and I gave up when my profits were $179 but we had a couple of hours entertainment.  If I were $100 down, it is cheaper than an excursion on the bus and more exciting.  It is not a way to make money, more a way of meeting a crowd of friendly people having a good time.

 

Regards John

Agree. Craps is the way I go. Buy $100 chips. Lose all in 15 minutes, win in 15 minutes, or play for an hour winning and losing along the way. Always expect to lose. Know when to stop playing. And throw some chips to the dealers if you walk away a winner.

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3 hours ago, skynight said:

Agree. Craps is the way I go. Buy $100 chips. Lose all in 15 minutes, win in 15 minutes, or play for an hour winning and losing along the way. Always expect to lose. Know when to stop playing. And throw some chips to the dealers if you walk away a winner.

 

The great thing about not being addicted to gambling is only gambling on cruises.  This limits you to one or two chances to play a year.  Gambling on the internet etc. is not good you are alone and can access 24/7 all year round.  Local casinos where you live are worth avoiding as you might start going more regularly.  If I had a big win, on board like a session that amassed $9,000 I would leave gambling completely that cruise and think about booking a future cruise.

 

Regards John

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On 2/25/2022 at 7:30 PM, jwattle said:

Not always...some people have the Midas touch...makes for a beautiful cruise🥰

That's a very true statement...Yes, the Casino always wins, but not everyone loses!!  Both can be true at the same time!

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4 hours ago, skynight said:

Agree. Craps is the way I go. Buy $100 chips. Lose all in 15 minutes, win in 15 minutes, or play for an hour winning and losing along the way. Always expect to lose. Know when to stop playing. And throw some chips to the dealers if you walk away a winner.

Many decades ago my father told me "only gamble with money you are willing and able to lose".  I've always lived by that.  Don't gamble if I can't afford it and when I do, don't expect to bring any back to the cabin with me.

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Until recently my mother lived near a newish casino on Long Island. She went every Wed.  Once I went with her. Lost quite a bit. But...we didn't want to go home with anything (lol) so we each played pour last 50 cents in one of those lock-link machines.  On that last play, my mom would $14,800. It took me at least 5 minutes to convince her that she had won that much.  They cam over and paid her is cash (minus 1/3 for witholding). They did offer us an escort to the car. 

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On 3/5/2022 at 7:52 PM, caribill said:

Or if playing 21 or poker at a table, how could they possibly track how I am betting?

On land, there is usually a floor person walking around in the pit, make notes in a pocket notebook.

 

They are checking the rack and ordering fills.  Watching the dealer, and watching for cheats...

 

And, they notice how much the players are betting.

 

If you ask for a comp, they may grant it, or say your're not betting enough ... so they

at least have an idea of your play.

 

Ocean Players Club?  Who knows.

 

 

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