Banning smoking in casinos anytime soon seems unlikely

[hotsauce126]

I’m pretty libertarian but in a confined space like a cruise ship any indoor common area that allows smoking is a pain for all nonsmokers. If you want to go to the casino you have to breathe in secondhand smoke the whole time and walk out smelling like a cigarette butt. I can’t imagine all the people defending casino smoking singing the same tune if they suddenly let you smoke weed in the casino

[davekathy]

2 hours ago, hotsauce126 said:

I’m pretty libertarian but in a confined space like a cruise ship any indoor common area that allows smoking is a pain for all nonsmokers. If you want to go to the casino you have to breathe in secondhand smoke the whole time and walk out smelling like a cigarette butt. I can’t imagine all the people defending casino smoking singing the same tune if they suddenly let you smoke weed in the casino

I'd spend a lot more time in the casino. Cheap contact high. 😁

Edited July 5, 2022 by davekathy

[Wlhoeft]

I’ve been on 5 cruises with RC since the restart. Casinos were packed except for our cruise in February on Freedom. In Mid Jan - mid Feb, masks were required in all indoor spaces because of Omicron. Casino was also no smoking. It was dead in there. Considering that sailing was about 70% capacity, compared to the other 4 cruises that were 25%-50%. Never have seen a casino so empty on a cruise.

[BND]

9 minutes ago, Wlhoeft said:

I’ve been on 5 cruises with RC since the restart. Casinos were packed except for our cruise in February on Freedom. In Mid Jan - mid Feb, masks were required in all indoor spaces because of Omicron. Casino was also no smoking. It was dead in there. Considering that sailing was about 70% capacity, compared to the other 4 cruises that were 25%-50%. Never have seen a casino so empty on a cruise.

Interesting, we were on HOTS in Nov/Dec for a b2b when masks were required and the casino was non-smoking and busy even though they were at about 40-50% capacity and I heard tons of people talking about how much they enjoyed the casino not being smoky.  

[Sunshine3601]

12 minutes ago, Wlhoeft said:

I’ve been on 5 cruises with RC since the restart. Casinos were packed except for our cruise in February on Freedom. In Mid Jan - mid Feb, masks were required in all indoor spaces because of Omicron. Casino was also no smoking. It was dead in there. Considering that sailing was about 70% capacity, compared to the other 4 cruises that were 25%-50%. Never have seen a casino so empty on a cruise.

We have been on 4 cruises and experienced the same.   Our January cruise with smoking temporarily banned and everyone had to mask up the casino was dead.    they would start to clean up to close by 11 every night since it was so empty.    I spoke with Casino Host and she said due to the masks and no smoking temp policy that all ships were experiencing very low casino play.      

Then boarded the same ship in March with no masks and smoking permitted and casino was packed and ship was sailing at 60% capacity.   

[Wlhoeft]

The  first 3 sailings on Symphony 2021, Freedom 2021 and Mariner 2021were masked with vaccinated areas. You didn’t have to wear a mask in casino and could smoke. Casino was packed. Feb 22 on Freedom sailing masks everywhere and no smoking in casino. It was dead. Also it was a B2B. April 2022 on Independence B2B you didn’t have to wear masks at all. Casino was back to smoking. Packed!

[cruising sister]

I don’t think you can generalize smoking and no mask to increase casino use.  When cruising first started up people were still nervous about crowded areas. As people loosen up so has their behavior. The casinos are not full of smokers but the smell sure is. 

[PTC DAWG]

On 7/1/2022 at 2:30 PM, rudeney said:

 

Maybe because Celebrity charges so much more for their cruises, they don't need to supplement profits with casino revenue (same with DCL that has no casins).

I don’t find that the case, especially if drink packages are factored in… but now we are getting way off topic.  

[hotsauce126]

52 minutes ago, cruising sister said:

I don’t think you can generalize smoking and no mask to increase casino use.  When cruising first started up people were still nervous about crowded areas. As people loosen up so has their behavior. The casinos are not full of smokers but the smell sure is. 

I think you can attribute it more to the mask rule more than the smoking. On odyssey last year I stuck to vaccinated only areas for the most part — not out of anxiety just because I don’t find it enjoyable to wear a mask

[joeyancho]

Smoking, drinking, and gambling all go hand in hand. You cannot remove one from the equation. Non-smoking has been tried on cruise ships and in casinos. It always fails. The casino is the second largest source of Revenue for a cruise ship. They are not going to make them non-smoking anytime soon. I think that is a generation or two away.

[BND]

57 minutes ago, joeyancho said:

Smoking, drinking, and gambling all go hand in hand. You cannot remove one from the equation. Non-smoking has been tried on cruise ships and in casinos. It always fails. The casino is the second largest source of Revenue for a cruise ship. They are not going to make them non-smoking anytime soon. I think that is a generation or two away.

They will when there's not enough smokers to make any difference and it's heading that way quickly.  If you've read the entire thread, smoking has dropped 40% in the last 15 years.  

 

BTW, there's no rule that those go together lol.  

Edited July 5, 2022 by BND

[BirdTravels]

11 minutes ago, BND said:

They will when there's not enough smokers to make any difference and it's heading that way quickly.  If you've read the entire thread, smoking has dropped 40% in the last 15 years.  

 

BTW, there's no rule that those go together lol.  

But, that demographic is not what the casino wants to cater to. I.e., that is not the demographic that generates the revenue. 

Edited July 5, 2022 by BirdTravels

[livingonthebeach]

9 minutes ago, BirdTravels said:

But, that demographic is not what the casino wants to cater to. I.e., that is not the demographic that generates the revenue. 

 

Which demographic are you referring to? The dwindling smoking percentage vs the increasing non-smoking percentage? Could you elaborate? 

[island lady]

On 7/5/2022 at 9:51 AM, davekathy said:

I'd spend a lot more time in the casino. Cheap contact high. 😁

 

OMG....you would never get your bro out of there!!  😮 

[davekathy]

3 hours ago, island lady said:

 

OMG....you would never get your bro out of there!!  😮 

The casino manager on the Explorer might have been more tolerable that way. 😁Tell Bucky I never did find the stuff! Dave's not here... 

[rudeney]

I have a simple solution to this problem.  For each guests the enters the MDR wearing pants on regular nights, and at least a suit and tie on "formal" nights, give them a special pin to wear that permits them to smoke in the casino.  You wear shorts to the MDR - no smoking got you!  😜

[island lady]

5 hours ago, davekathy said:

The casino manager on the Explorer might have been more tolerable that way. 😁Tell Bucky I never did find the stuff! Dave's not here... 

 

Noo...knock harder!!   Dave is just on break!  😄