Are Vax and Unvax differentiated on Celebrity now that everyone can cruise?

[hovank]

I am traveling with a group in NOV and just received a notice from Celebrity for dining which stated that vax and unvax guests are seated in different locations in the dining room.  Has anyone run into this onboard now that Celebrity is allowing all passengers to sail?  Is the theater area for shows designated seating for vax and unvax also?  Do your room cards have vaccination status on them or do guests wear wrist bands?  I would appreciate any input from anyone that has recently sailed.  Thank you!  

[Jim_Iain]

No.    It's kinda like at home when you go to a store there is no one wearing a giant Scarlet Letter.

[Georgia_Peaches]

5 minutes ago, Jim_Iain said:

No.    It's kinda like at home when you go to a store there is no one wearing a giant Scarlet Letter.

But according to OP's letter they are separating out guests.  What would be their method for doing this?  And if they aren't doing it, then why the letter?  Just my shower musings...

[cangelmd]

Can you post a link or repost email, etc?

 

off topic, we have family in Augusta and will be there in a couple of weeks, nice town

[Georgia_Peaches]

1 minute ago, cangelmd said:

Can you post a link or repost email, etc?

Agree this would be helpful.  We are traveling in March with a pair of non-vaxed friends.  Such a separation would change our plans completely.

[RichYak]

5 minutes ago, Georgia_Peaches said:

But according to OP's letter they are separating out guests.  What would be their method for doing this?  And if they aren't doing it, then why the letter?  Just my shower musings...

This is one of those "I'll believe it when I see it" moments for me. I can't even think of the rationale for doing this, let alone a method.

[Georgia_Peaches]

Just now, RichYak said:

This is one of those "I'll believe it when I see it" moments for me. I can't even think of the rationale for doing this, let alone a method.

Exactly my thoughts.

[Jim_Iain]

12 minutes ago, Georgia_Peaches said:

But according to OP's letter they are separating out guests.  What would be their method for doing this?  And if they aren't doing it, then why the letter?  Just my shower musings...

Great question..... I can't imagine how they would do that.    Prior to allowing all unvaxed aboard we were on a number of sailings with unVaxed kids --   For those supposedly the kids had colored wrist bands but of course they disappeared after a day or two.    The only restriction I saw was the parents and they children could not leave the ship in I believe all of the ports.  Their cards were coded so would alert the security. 

 

Maybe an Unvax member can enlighten us when they cruise.

[C-Dragons]

28 minutes ago, Georgia_Peaches said:

But according to OP's letter they are separating out guests.  What would be their method for doing this?  And if they aren't doing it, then why the letter?  Just my shower musings...

If this is true, IMO, X would probably be seating groups of guests sailing together at the same table, regardless of Vaccination status. All other guests would be separated accordingly.

But considering how close the dining room tables are, in reality, I don’t know what  X thinks separating guests will accomplish.

Edited September 26, 2022 by C-Dragons

[prmssk]

The only way they can truly do this is if the crew have an easy way of knowing who is vaccinated and who is not.  When Royal restarted last year, vaccinated individuals were given a wristband and couldn't enter vaccinated areas without their wristband.  I can't imagine we are going back to that.

[BridgeMates]

Just a question....

how effective Now are the original 2 shots we received when the vaccinations first came out early in 2021?

We have followed up with all of our additional boosters, but I know there are people who only got the first two shots.

As I understand it,  to board the ship today we just have to present our Vaccination Card.  There may not be any follow up boosters on it.

So, if the original 2 shots are still effective, why do we need boosters?  and if the original vac's aren't still effective, then maybe those without boosters should be considered UnVac'd!

Just asking......😟

 

 

 

[hovank]

When we booked, we had to state whether vaccinated or unvaccinated.

For the doubting Thomas'--  Here's the Celebrity email.

 

Dear Travel Partner,

Attached is the list of your group clients travelling on a future Celebrity Cruises. Please review and complete all pages of this form advising of your client's dining seating preferences and identify who would like to dine together during their upcoming cruise. Completed group dining forms must be submitted to CelebrityGroupSupport@celebrity.com no later than XXXXXX days to sailing. General guidelines: We commit to seat your clients as close to your request as possible; however, we ask for understanding if some of the requests cannot be accommodated due to seating limitations.

Health Protocol Guidelines:

•Groups that are 100% fully vaccinated will be seated together at their assigned dining time.

• Groups with both vaccinated and unvaccinated members will be split for dining: º Group guests will eat at the assigned time in early or late dining but will be seated per vaccination status: • Vaccinated group members will be seated together in the vaccinated area of the dining room. • Unvaccinated group members will be seated by household or stateroom with physical distancing in place in the unvaccinated area of the dining room. • Vaccinated parents will be seated in the unvaccinated area of the dining room with their unvaccinated children. º Due to the limited availability in the unvaccinated dining room area, vaccinated group members may not elect to sit with unvaccinated guests from different staterooms or households. • Table sizes may vary by homeport. %DiningSummaryTerms% • If vaccination status is blank, guests will be seated as an unvaccinated guest. Final dining assignments are printed on your client's SeaPass card, which is received upon boarding. For further questions regarding this form or other specific dining needs for your group, please contact your group specialist.

Celebrity Cruises

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Check which best describes your group:

______ Group has guest(s) with mobility/disability needs that require special seating arrangements. **For guests with mobility issues or other disabilities that may require special seating accommodation in the dining room, you must contact your group agent coordinator for further assistance. **

______ Entire group should be seated in the same area of the dining room. This option is used if all guests know each other, are cruising together, and would like to dine together. Vaccinated and unvaccinated guests will be seated in separate areas of the dining room, except as noted in the health protocol guidelines above.

______ It is not necessary for the group to be seated together except guests marked as "Dining Together". This option is used mainly for promotional groups where the guests do not know each other and do not wish to dine together. If there are any guests that wish to dine together, please identify them below. Below are the names of the guests travelling in your group. Please mark the guests who would like to sit together in the Dining Together column. For example, mark the first group of guests who wish to sit together with a "1", the second group of guests with a "2", etc Guests travelling in the same stateroom will always be seated at the same table unless otherwise requested. Note: Due to table size limits, all guests marked to be seated together may not be seated at the same table but will be seated near each other in the vaccinated or unvaccinated areas of the dining room.

[hovank]

So,  since I was appalled at this email from Celebrity, I wondered if other areas of the ships (shows, casinos, etc) are separated for vax or unvax guests.  I do appreciate any input from anyone that has recently sailed to confirm this.  Thank you again.

[RichYak]

Wow, I agree. This is truly appalling.

[gizmodog]

That’s terrible

[Georgia_Peaches]

9 minutes ago, hovank said:

So,  since I was appalled at this email from Celebrity, I wondered if other areas of the ships (shows, casinos, etc) are separated for vax or unvax guests. 

I'm gobsmacked!

 

5 minutes ago, RichYak said:

Wow, I agree. This is truly appalling.

I can't imagine this will keep up for long.   Not a good look, Celebrity!

[dlh015]

It's almost as silly as their testing requirements...

 

ETA: Come to think of it...it's sillier...

Edited September 26, 2022 by dlh015

[Georgia_Peaches]

1 minute ago, dlh015 said:

It's almost as silly as their testing requirements...

Right!?  I can take a pic of my self-test results and submit at check in but I will be segregated from my fellow cruise passenger who may be non-vaxed...but only in the MDRs?  Where's the logic here?

[Lena11033]

24 minutes ago, hovank said:

When we booked, we had to state whether vaccinated or unvaccinated.

For the doubting Thomas'--  Here's the Celebrity email.

 

Dear Travel Partner,

Attached is the list of your group clients travelling on a future Celebrity Cruises. Please review and complete all pages of this form advising of your client's dining seating preferences and identify who would like to dine together during their upcoming cruise. Completed group dining forms must be submitted to CelebrityGroupSupport@celebrity.com no later than XXXXXX days to sailing. General guidelines: We commit to seat your clients as close to your request as possible; however, we ask for understanding if some of the requests cannot be accommodated due to seating limitations.

Health Protocol Guidelines:

•Groups that are 100% fully vaccinated will be seated together at their assigned dining time.

• Groups with both vaccinated and unvaccinated members will be split for dining: º Group guests will eat at the assigned time in early or late dining but will be seated per vaccination status: • Vaccinated group members will be seated together in the vaccinated area of the dining room. • Unvaccinated group members will be seated by household or stateroom with physical distancing in place in the unvaccinated area of the dining room. • Vaccinated parents will be seated in the unvaccinated area of the dining room with their unvaccinated children. º Due to the limited availability in the unvaccinated dining room area, vaccinated group members may not elect to sit with unvaccinated guests from different staterooms or households. • Table sizes may vary by homeport. %DiningSummaryTerms% • If vaccination status is blank, guests will be seated as an unvaccinated guest. Final dining assignments are printed on your client's SeaPass card, which is received upon boarding. For further questions regarding this form or other specific dining needs for your group, please contact your group specialist.

Celebrity Cruises

------------------

Check which best describes your group:

______ Group has guest(s) with mobility/disability needs that require special seating arrangements. **For guests with mobility issues or other disabilities that may require special seating accommodation in the dining room, you must contact your group agent coordinator for further assistance. **

______ Entire group should be seated in the same area of the dining room. This option is used if all guests know each other, are cruising together, and would like to dine together. Vaccinated and unvaccinated guests will be seated in separate areas of the dining room, except as noted in the health protocol guidelines above.

______ It is not necessary for the group to be seated together except guests marked as "Dining Together". This option is used mainly for promotional groups where the guests do not know each other and do not wish to dine together. If there are any guests that wish to dine together, please identify them below. Below are the names of the guests travelling in your group. Please mark the guests who would like to sit together in the Dining Together column. For example, mark the first group of guests who wish to sit together with a "1", the second group of guests with a "2", etc Guests travelling in the same stateroom will always be seated at the same table unless otherwise requested. Note: Due to table size limits, all guests marked to be seated together may not be seated at the same table but will be seated near each other in the vaccinated or unvaccinated areas of the dining room.

I'm surprised at this,  I mean if you are traveling together what's even the point of separating at dining?

[GORDONCHICK]

36 minutes ago, hovank said:

When we booked, we had to state whether vaccinated or unvaccinated.

For the doubting Thomas'--  Here's the Celebrity email.

 

Dear Travel Partner,

Attached is the list of your group clients travelling on a future Celebrity Cruises. Please review and complete all pages of this form advising of your client's dining seating preferences and identify who would like to dine together during their upcoming cruise. Completed group dining forms must be submitted to CelebrityGroupSupport@celebrity.com no later than XXXXXX days to sailing. General guidelines: We commit to seat your clients as close to your request as possible; however, we ask for understanding if some of the requests cannot be accommodated due to seating limitations.

Health Protocol Guidelines:

•Groups that are 100% fully vaccinated will be seated together at their assigned dining time.

• Groups with both vaccinated and unvaccinated members will be split for dining: º Group guests will eat at the assigned time in early or late dining but will be seated per vaccination status: • Vaccinated group members will be seated together in the vaccinated area of the dining room. • Unvaccinated group members will be seated by household or stateroom with physical distancing in place in the unvaccinated area of the dining room. • Vaccinated parents will be seated in the unvaccinated area of the dining room with their unvaccinated children. º Due to the limited availability in the unvaccinated dining room area, vaccinated group members may not elect to sit with unvaccinated guests from different staterooms or households. • Table sizes may vary by homeport. %DiningSummaryTerms% • If vaccination status is blank, guests will be seated as an unvaccinated guest. Final dining assignments are printed on your client's SeaPass card, which is received upon boarding. For further questions regarding this form or other specific dining needs for your group, please contact your group specialist.

Celebrity Cruises

------------------

Check which best describes your group:

______ Group has guest(s) with mobility/disability needs that require special seating arrangements. **For guests with mobility issues or other disabilities that may require special seating accommodation in the dining room, you must contact your group agent coordinator for further assistance. **

______ Entire group should be seated in the same area of the dining room. This option is used if all guests know each other, are cruising together, and would like to dine together. Vaccinated and unvaccinated guests will be seated in separate areas of the dining room, except as noted in the health protocol guidelines above.

______ It is not necessary for the group to be seated together except guests marked as "Dining Together". This option is used mainly for promotional groups where the guests do not know each other and do not wish to dine together. If there are any guests that wish to dine together, please identify them below. Below are the names of the guests travelling in your group. Please mark the guests who would like to sit together in the Dining Together column. For example, mark the first group of guests who wish to sit together with a "1", the second group of guests with a "2", etc Guests travelling in the same stateroom will always be seated at the same table unless otherwise requested. Note: Due to table size limits, all guests marked to be seated together may not be seated at the same table but will be seated near each other in the vaccinated or unvaccinated areas of the dining room.

First, I am not doubting this at all.  But I have a question:  when did you book and when did you receive this email?  That's going to make a difference.

[dlh015]

Hovank said  'just received this email' in the OP...

[GORDONCHICK]

1 minute ago, dlh015 said:

Hovank said  'just received this email' in the OP...

I did see that.  I also know some people use "just" many times when they didn't mean that exactly.  But if this was just received for a November cruise, we won't booking.  The whole reason for us even booking specifically with X was to spend time with our friends who live in another part of the country.

[prmssk]

@hovank I’m not sure anyone was doubting you received such an e-mails. The doubts were about whether Celebrity was actually following such a policy. 
 

Although, I can see how a Maitre’D could assign tables like they describe (although it sounds like a nightmare), there isn’t a way for the average crew member (that I’m aware of) in the theater or other venues will know your vaccination status. It’s not printed on your seapass and I haven’t heard of them suddenly requiring wristbands or anything. 

[Georgia_Peaches]

15 minutes ago, GORDONCHICK said:

I did see that.  I also know some people use "just" many times when they didn't mean that exactly.  But if this was just received for a November cruise, we won't booking.  The whole reason for us even booking specifically with X was to spend time with our friends who live in another part of the country.

I can't find this published on Celebrity's website.  Our cruise is in March but I can tell you we wouldn't have booked if this policy was on the site because the whole point of traveling with our friends was to travel with our friends.  Deposit is nonrefundable.  Time to get my TA involved, I guess.

[jelayne]

The  notice is addressed to Travel Partners and is a form for TAs to complete did  you get this from your TA or direct from Celebrity?

This reads like it may from been from  the restart when the number of unvaccinated were primarily  children.

 

Have you asked your TA about this, or contacted Celebrity?

 

Maybe one of our ever helpful and knowledgeable  TAs who are on these boards can shed some light on this.