topnole Posted January 9, 2023 #76 Share Posted January 9, 2023 4 hours ago, cruiseboy89130 said: I would not trust that statement either! They issued the protocol now before final - for a reason! Symphony is well past final payment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wineaux007 Posted January 9, 2023 #77 Share Posted January 9, 2023 5 hours ago, jerseygirl3 said: Not true for a transatlantic. They require a supervised test. That was true for 2022 Transatlantics. Recent guidance for 2023 transatlantics require tests, and they can be unsupervised, which in my opinion is stupid. You either have supervised or no test at all. Unsupervised tests are nothing more than virtue signaling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcur Posted January 9, 2023 #78 Share Posted January 9, 2023 12 hours ago, Wineaux007 said: That was true for 2022 Transatlantics. Recent guidance for 2023 transatlantics require tests, and they can be unsupervised, which in my opinion is stupid. You either have supervised or no test at all. I agree. It should be DIGITALLY DATED unsupervised tests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilkySal Posted January 9, 2023 #79 Share Posted January 9, 2023 (edited) 22 hours ago, Ex-Airbalancer said: I believe you would follow these requirements https://www.celebritycruises.com/ca/healthy-at-sea/international-travel-requirements Yes, thanks, I read the section entitled transatlantic/transpacific cruises but it only mentions Australia and maybe NZ. We are only cruising to Hawaii, then flying home after 5 nights in Honolulu, and it doesn't mention Hawaii from Vancouver, so I'm guessing there will be no requirements. Will definitely keep checking though before flying to Vancouver! Edited January 9, 2023 by SilkySal add Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vjmatty Posted January 9, 2023 #80 Share Posted January 9, 2023 4 minutes ago, SilkySal said: Yes, thanks, I read the section entitled transatlantic/transpacific cruises but it only mentions Australia and maybe NZ. We are only cruising to Hawaii, then flying home after 5 nights in Honolulu, and it doesn't mention Hawaii from Vancouver, so I'm guessing there will be no requirements. Will definitely keep checking though before flying to Vancouver! Believe it or not, as far as Hawaii may seem, it is not even halfway across the Pacific from the US. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crzndeb Posted January 9, 2023 #81 Share Posted January 9, 2023 (edited) 28 minutes ago, SilkySal said: Yes, thanks, I read the section entitled transatlantic/transpacific cruises but it only mentions Australia and maybe NZ. We are only cruising to Hawaii, then flying home after 5 nights in Honolulu, and it doesn't mention Hawaii from Vancouver, so I'm guessing there will be no requirements. Will definitely keep checking though before flying to Vancouver! You’re right. Hawaii is not considered a TP, so your protocols fall under normal sailings. Just keep fingers crossed that Canada doesn’t change their protocols. 😬 Edited January 9, 2023 by crzndeb 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedIguana Posted January 10, 2023 #82 Share Posted January 10, 2023 On 1/7/2023 at 10:45 AM, sibs said: Royal Caribbean has not changed the testing requirements. They’re changing the vaccination requirements. Before I could leave from New York and take a transatlantic over to Europe without needing a vaccine. As of yesterday I was informed that I need a vaccine. You only needed a vaccine if you were going from Europe to the USA Vaccination Requirement All Royal Caribbean guests, regardless of age, on transatlantic sailings must be fully vaccinated against COVID-19 with the final dose administered at least 14 days before sailing. Guests who are not vaccinated will not be permitted to board a transatlantic sailing departing from Europe to the U.S. Each guest’s original vaccine series must include at least two doses of vaccine to board, unless the guest received the single dose Johnson & Johnson vaccine. This is per U.S. CDC guidance, and no exceptions will be made, even if the guest's resident country has authorized a single-shot regimen for a two dose vaccine. Your vaccine must be approved or authorized for emergency use by the World Health Organization (WHO) or European Medicines Agency (EMA) to board the ship. Guests who are up to date on their vaccination will have more time to complete their pre-cruise test. To be considered up to date by all European countries we sail to, your vaccination must meet both of the following requirements. You received your most recent vaccine dose no more than 9 months (270 days) ago. This could have been the final dose in your original vaccine series (or a single dose of Johnson & Johnson), or a booster dose. Your most recent vaccine dose is on this list of EMA-approved vaccines: Pfizer Moderna Johnson & Johnson AstraZeneca Nuvaxovid A Certificate of Recovery is not acceptable in lieu of a full vaccination for guests of vaccine eligible age. All crew onboard the ship and at our private destinations are fully vaccinated and receive a booster dose as they become eligible. Read Detailed Vaccine FAQs These are the requirements from last August. There have been no changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
easyqueasy Posted January 10, 2023 #83 Share Posted January 10, 2023 34 minutes ago, RedIguana said: Vaccination Requirement Guests who are not vaccinated will not be permitted to board a transatlantic sailing departing from Europe to the U.S. These are the requirements from last August. There have been no changes. Yes, it’s changed. It specifically says from Europe to US. Now it’s been changed to generic transatlantic, meaning bidirectional. Even people have been told that when called and have been refunded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedIguana Posted January 10, 2023 #84 Share Posted January 10, 2023 6 minutes ago, easyqueasy said: Yes, it’s changed. It specifically says from Europe to US. Now it’s been changed to generic transatlantic, meaning bidirectional. Even people have been told that when called and have been refunded. The ones from the US to Europe were last spring, vaccines were required for those also. Royal has not had a TA sailing since the restart that did not require vaccines. TA's have always been the exception to the no vaccine requirement that came out last august. I don't think it is a matter of that they changed the requirements as much as they hadn't posted the current protocols for the spring TA's yet. That specifies Europe to the US because Royal does not do US to Europe in the fall season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
easyqueasy Posted January 10, 2023 #85 Share Posted January 10, 2023 9 minutes ago, RedIguana said: The ones from the US to Europe were last spring, vaccines were required for those also. Royal has not had a TA sailing since the restart that did not require vaccines. TA's have always been the exception to the no vaccine requirement that came out last august. I don't think it is a matter of that they changed the requirements as much as they hadn't posted the current protocols for the spring TA's yet. That specifies Europe to the US because Royal does not do US to Europe in the fall season. On their website it states vaccinations are not required for sailings with exceptions of Canada, Bermuda, Transatlantic from Europe to US, etc. during that time period of late August on and continued easing of protocols. Even if you don’t think there’s a change, at least Royal agrees there’s a change in protocol and are refunding those booked and will not meet the vaccination requirement. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisin from florida Posted January 10, 2023 #86 Share Posted January 10, 2023 Royal knows those TA cabins will book up fast (based on how fast the 2024 that we just booked is running out of cabin categories) and they'll probably be able to charge an arm and a leg. Glad those who aren't happy with the protocol are getting full refunds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vjmatty Posted January 10, 2023 #87 Share Posted January 10, 2023 4 minutes ago, cruisin from florida said: Royal knows those TA cabins will book up fast (based on how fast the 2024 that we just booked is running out of cabin categories) and they'll probably be able to charge an arm and a leg. Glad those who aren't happy with the protocol are getting full refunds. That could backfire.... one of the draws of a TA is the cheaper price. Once that goes, bookings will likely take a hit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisin from florida Posted January 10, 2023 #88 Share Posted January 10, 2023 44 minutes ago, vjmatty said: That could backfire.... one of the draws of a TA is the cheaper price. Once that goes, bookings will likely take a hit. Good point ! We got a great price on our JS for fall 2024 TAs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiseboy89130 Posted January 10, 2023 #89 Share Posted January 10, 2023 On 1/9/2023 at 3:39 PM, pcur said: I agree. It should be DIGITALLY DATED unsupervised tests. You realize you can swab the kitchen sink or nothing and have a test? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedIguana Posted January 10, 2023 #90 Share Posted January 10, 2023 4 hours ago, easyqueasy said: On their website it states vaccinations are not required for sailings with exceptions of Canada, Bermuda, Transatlantic from Europe to US, etc. during that time period of late August on and continued easing of protocols. Even if you don’t think there’s a change, at least Royal agrees there’s a change in protocol and are refunding those booked and will not meet the vaccination requirement. from last august 6 hours ago, RedIguana said: All Royal Caribbean guests, regardless of age, on transatlantic sailings must be fully vaccinated against COVID-19 with the final dose administered at least 14 days before sailing Now COVID-19 Vaccination is no longer required to sail, with a few exceptions. At this time, only the following sailings have COVID-19 vaccination requirements: Guests age 12 and older must be fully vaccinated against COVID-19 in order to sail: Cruises from Australia Learn more about cruising from Australia Transatlantic and Transpacific Sailings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcur Posted January 11, 2023 #91 Share Posted January 11, 2023 On 1/10/2023 at 10:23 AM, cruiseboy89130 said: You realize you can swab the kitchen sink or nothing and have a test? Ah, but I don't. I would prefer to inform myself and others that I do not have COVID. I'm kinda fussy about making other people sick. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerseygirl3 Posted January 12, 2023 #92 Share Posted January 12, 2023 So I'm confused. Do TA's from Europe to US still require supervised testing? We are vaccinated, and when we were due to sail from Ravenna to Florida this past October (we had to cancel as I, very unexpectedly, suffered a massive stroke), we had to be tested under supervision. We have rebooked a TA for this coming October (fingers crossed we're able to go healthwise), and I wonder if we need to set up a supervised test. I know it's many months away and things can change, but as of now what are the testing protocols for Europe to US TA's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keksie Posted January 12, 2023 #93 Share Posted January 12, 2023 22 hours ago, pcur said: Ah, but I don't. I would prefer to inform myself and others that I do not have COVID. I'm kinda fussy about making other people sick. Except you can't know for certain you don't have covid because the tests don't always show positive for a few days. Therefore you could be making other people sick and not know it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiggerontheseas Posted January 12, 2023 #94 Share Posted January 12, 2023 10 minutes ago, jerseygirl3 said: So I'm confused. Do TA's from Europe to US still require supervised testing? We are vaccinated, and when we were due to sail from Ravenna to Florida this past October (we had to cancel as I, very unexpectedly, suffered a massive stroke), we had to be tested under supervision. We have rebooked a TA for this coming October (fingers crossed we're able to go healthwise), and I wonder if we need to set up a supervised test. I know it's many months away and things can change, but as of now what are the testing protocols for Europe to US TA's As of now you no longer need a supervised test for Europe to US TA's. This is a very recent change. Here is the wording from the website: Required testing can be completed using any type of PCR or antigen COVID-19 test. It can be professionally proctored at your doctor or drugstore, or it can be a test you administer to yourself at home without supervision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisin from florida Posted January 12, 2023 #95 Share Posted January 12, 2023 1 hour ago, Tiggerontheseas said: As of now you no longer need a supervised test for Europe to US TA's. This is a very recent change. Here is the wording from the website: Required testing can be completed using any type of PCR or antigen COVID-19 test. It can be professionally proctored at your doctor or drugstore, or it can be a test you administer to yourself at home without supervision. If I were doing one of these cruises this spring or fall, I'd be preparing for other potential changes to protocols. Might not happen, but certainly could. We have a TP and New Zealand cruise coming up, and are watching very carefully for any protocol changes for all flights, countries, and cruises. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiggerontheseas Posted January 12, 2023 #96 Share Posted January 12, 2023 1 minute ago, cruisin from florida said: If I were doing one of these cruises this spring or fall, I'd be preparing for other potential changes to protocols. Might not happen, but certainly could. We have a TP and New Zealand cruise coming up, and are watching very carefully for any protocol changes for all flights, countries, and cruises. Absolutely. Everything at the moment is subject to change. 🙂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare HappyTexan44 Posted January 12, 2023 #97 Share Posted January 12, 2023 Out of curiosity. Would travel insurance cover the flights if you couldn't take the cruise because of protocol changes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crzndeb Posted January 12, 2023 #98 Share Posted January 12, 2023 I have read through most of the thread, but may have missed something. Protocols for TA’s posted for 2022, and didn’t think anything had been posted on the Royal website for 2023. So for those that booked, believing you didn’t need to be vaxxed, was there an update for TA’s and TP’s on the website, and then changed, or were you allowed to book with a rep, who told you you didn’t need to be vaxxed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikew0805 Posted January 12, 2023 #99 Share Posted January 12, 2023 On 1/7/2023 at 9:12 AM, gumshoe958 said: You’d never, ever see anyone in shorts in the MDR there. This feels like a challenge. 🤣 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wineaux007 Posted January 13, 2023 #100 Share Posted January 13, 2023 7 hours ago, jerseygirl3 said: So I'm confused. Do TA's from Europe to US still require supervised testing? We are vaccinated, and when we were due to sail from Ravenna to Florida this past October (we had to cancel as I, very unexpectedly, suffered a massive stroke), we had to be tested under supervision. We have rebooked a TA for this coming October (fingers crossed we're able to go healthwise), and I wonder if we need to set up a supervised test. I know it's many months away and things can change, but as of now what are the testing protocols for Europe to US TA's Too early for the Fall TA's. They just released the Spring covid and testing requirements. Standby to standby for the Fall requirements. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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