Vaping in Casino on Equinox

[maiaaya]

3 minutes ago, the penguins said:

Is X showing this on the current cruise?

Yes. This was in our daily planner earlier in the week. 

[TeeRick]

19 hours ago, TheHawk1 said:

 

 

Kind of contradicts your theory that Celebrity should just let the boomers go and focus instead on a younger market.  Boomers (and some older Gen X) are the ones who can primarily afford the Retreat, which is a huge cash cow for them. I guess you'll just have to put up with some old folks photo bombing your endless selfies on your next vacation "experience", as the millennials say.

 

I not sure this is anything more than a speculation.  

[wrk2cruise]

9 minutes ago, maiaaya said:

Yes. This was in our daily planner earlier in the week. 

 

On S class ships aren't the shops on the Port side of the ship with the Casino being Starboard?  I don't remember the port side reference in the posting a few weeks ago.  To me none of the tables would be included given the description.  I guess whoever made the policy has never been on the ship!

 

[Georgia_Peaches]

2 hours ago, maiaaya said:

I went back to the first daily planner to find it. 
 

And thanks! This is our first Celebrity cruise and we love it! 

 

The portside only caveat was not in our planner on July 2nd embarkation.  That's so silly.  Do most people even know port from starboard...in a casino, no less?

[MamaFej]

1 minute ago, Georgia_Peaches said:

The portside only caveat was not in our planner on July 2nd embarkation.  That's so silly.  Do most people even know port from starboard...in a casino, no less?

Yeah... that seems weird. 

I fully admit that, when I am inside, away from a window where I can see our movement relative to the ocean, I have to first think about which way is forward or aft, then extrapolate that to Port or Starboard, on the rare occasions it might be necessary. I'm guessing I'm not alone. 

[zitsky]

15 minutes ago, MamaFej said:

Yeah... that seems weird. 

I fully admit that, when I am inside, away from a window where I can see our movement relative to the ocean, I have to first think about which way is forward or aft, then extrapolate that to Port or Starboard, on the rare occasions it might be necessary. I'm guessing I'm not alone. 

Is the ventilation better on the port side?

[TheHawk1]

1 hour ago, TeeRick said:

I not sure this is anything more than a speculation.  

Right, the same millennial (and Gen Z) generation who only have part time gig economy jobs rather than full time employment?  The ones still living at home into their thirties, saddled with six figure college tuition debt?  Sounds like the perfect demographic for Celebrity to market their luxury suite cruises to.

[zitsky]

1 minute ago, TheHawk1 said:

Right, the same millennial (and Gen Z) generation who only have part time gig economy jobs rather than full time employment?  The ones still living at home into their thirties, saddled with six figure college tuition debt?  Sounds like the perfect demographic for Celebrity to market their luxury suite cruises to.

Are these the same kids with degrees in parchment making during the latter Babylonian empire?  The ones who now can’t get a job?

[the penguins]

6 minutes ago, zitsky said:

Is the ventilation better on the port side?

On S line ships the port side opens up to the double height space that houses the shops.

Depending on how X defines Port/Starboard I would have said that all the Roulette tables are Starboard. Craps and some Black Jack tables would be Port. 

Or, if all the tables are counted as central, the only thing to Port would be the Slots that run up to the shops and the Poker Tables.

I always find the staff at the Cashier Cage/Desk very helpful so perhaps one of the current passengers would ask there for an accurate definition.

[wrk2cruise]

It would be interesting to know what the casino manager thinks about all this.......

 

BTW.   I think the definition of port side on a ship is pretty standard.   Draw an imaginary line down the center of the ship, anything to the left of that when looking forward is port side.    Drawing that imaginary line through the center of the casino would indeed split the tables.

 

Anyway the port side of the casino is completely open to the main corridor which seems to me to be a bad idea as it exposes even the non-casino passengers.   Plus I'm sure the casino bar would be a hot spot for vaping even though they specify actively playing.

 

[MarKay525]

35 minutes ago, zitsky said:

Is the ventilation better on the port side?

Of course. There is all that open space just outside the shops where everyone walks every day to get to the theatre!

[The_Big_M]

On 7/21/2023 at 2:26 AM, RedIguana said:

To the best of my knowledge all reputable vape juice manufacturers

 

...Except are patrons onboard restricted to only sales screened by Celebrity from "reputable" manufacturers?

 

No.

 

Is there any other control that limits what people use to coming from "reputable" manufacturers?

 

No. 

 

Hence your arbitrary restriction to a vague classification of repute isn't relevant to the discussion, since people onboard will be using products from wherever they choose, reputable or not.

 

As for the rest of what you wrote, none of it addressed my comment, which is that there is nothing to show it is just steam left over either, since there was no test on what was produced - but the rest of the inputs aside from water don't automatically, arbitrarily disappear.

[mdcelebrity]

1 hour ago, zitsky said:

Is the ventilation better on the port side?

I am going to guess what happened here (specifying the port side of the Casino):

Who ever wrote the Smoking specifications just echoed what was done with the text re. the outside areas (specifying which side), without really considering how absurd it is to do so with a facility that is in the center of the ship.  It sounds like this was a rush job -- at least the documentation -- and, frankly, errors such as this are not so usual with communications from X.

[Georgia_Peaches]

4 hours ago, maiaaya said:

I went back to the first daily planner to find it. 
 

And thanks! This is our first Celebrity cruise and we love it! 

 

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Edited July 21, 2023 by Georgia_Peaches

[RedIguana]

26 minutes ago, The_Big_M said:

As for the rest of what you wrote, none of it addressed my comment, which is that there is nothing to show it is just steam left over either

You are the one claiming there is nothing but steam left over...no one else on this board has. 

 

31 minutes ago, The_Big_M said:

Is there any other control that limits what people use to coming from "reputable" manufacturers?

Black market products exist for just about everything. However, there is very little reason not to just buy reputable products from a store in the case of legal products such as vaping products. I guess if one  really wanted to go out of their way to find products not from a reputable manufacturer they could, but I suspect you are grasping at straws here. 

[zitsky]

18 minutes ago, RedIguana said:

You are the one claiming there is nothing but steam left over...no one else on this board has. 

 

Black market products exist for just about everything. However, there is very little reason not to just buy reputable products from a store in the case of legal products such as vaping products. I guess if one  really wanted to go out of their way to find products not from a reputable manufacturer they could, but I suspect you are grasping at straws here. 

Don’t be so hard on the poster.  I’ve had people (vapers) claim on the internet that the exhaust is nothing more than CO2.  Which is why I always ask about it.

 

[RedIguana]

Just now, zitsky said:

Don’t be so hard on the poster.  I’ve had people (vapers) claim on the internet that the exhaust is nothing more than CO2.  Which is why I always ask about it

I apologize if I am coming off harsh or being hard on @The_Big_M. My intent is to be as neutral as possible. 

[Ex-Airbalancer]

3 hours ago, zitsky said:

Is the ventilation better on the port side?

 

2 hours ago, MarKay525 said:

Of course. There is all that open space just outside the shops where everyone walks every day to get to the theatre!

 

1 hour ago, mdcelebrity said:

I am going to guess what happened here (specifying the port side of the Casino):

Who ever wrote the Smoking specifications just echoed what was done with the text re. the outside areas (specifying which side), without really considering how absurd it is to do so with a facility that is in the center of the ship.  It sounds like this was a rush job -- at least the documentation -- and, frankly, errors such as this are not so usual with communications from X.

With out looking at the mechanical drawning, it is impossible to tell which side has better ventilation 

 

outside , on the port side is the exhaust outlet from the ventilation system , starboard side is the air intake into the ventilation unit 

That is  why smoking is usually on the port side of the ship outside 

[zitsky]

31 minutes ago, Ex-Airbalancer said:

 

 

With out looking at the mechanical drawning, it is impossible to tell which side has better ventilation 

 

outside , on the port side is the exhaust outlet from the ventilation system , starboard side is the air intake into the ventilation unit 

That is  why smoking is usually on the port side of the ship outside 

If that’s the case, it doesn’t seem so bad.

[phoenix_dream]

4 hours ago, TeeRick said:

I not sure this is anything more than a speculation.  

I agree. If anything, these days it seems the younger (than Boomer) crowd seems to be the ones spending like crazy. For example, recently stayed at Wynn in Vegas, where the crowd normally tends to be 50 and up as it is one of the nicer and more expensive casino/hotels.  Couldn’t believe how many families running around, many with strollers and toddlers. And I’m talking about eating there, and in the elevator hallways, so not just walking through. What used to be the norm no longer is. It’s no surprise credit card debt is the highest in history. 
 

[zitsky]

24 minutes ago, phoenix_dream said:

I agree. If anything, these days it seems the younger (than Boomer) crowd seems to be the ones spending like crazy. For example, recently stayed at Wynn in Vegas, where the crowd normally tends to be 50 and up as it is one of the nicer and more expensive casino/hotels.  Couldn’t believe how many families running around, many with strollers and toddlers. And I’m talking about eating there, and in the elevator hallways, so not just walking through. What used to be the norm no longer is. It’s no surprise credit card debt is the highest in history. 
 

 

How old were the parents?  20s?  30's?  If they are using credit cards they will wake up to a big surprise.  They must be working but I'm always hearing how young people can't find jobs.

[NorthStarStateCruiser]

2 hours ago, phoenix_dream said:

It’s no surprise credit card debt is the highest in history. 

This. Debt in America is just way too common practice. HELOCs, layaways, intro 0% financing, deferred payments, and the list goes on. There are so many ways for people to take on debt they can't afford to pay back. Heck you can even finance your cruise payments with Royal Caribbean!

[zitsky]

15 minutes ago, NorthStarStateCruiser said:

This. Debt in America is just way too common practice. HELOCs, layaways, intro 0% financing, deferred payments, and the list goes on. There are so many ways for people to take on debt they can't afford to pay back. Heck you can even finance your cruise payments with Royal Caribbean!

Say what?!  I can put a cruise on layaway?

[NMTraveller]

10 hours ago, TheHawk1 said:

Right, the same millennial (and Gen Z) generation who only have part time gig economy jobs rather than full time employment?  The ones still living at home into their thirties, saddled with six figure college tuition debt?  Sounds like the perfect demographic for Celebrity to market their luxury suite cruises to.

Sooner or later their stimulus money will run out 🙂 

[NMTraveller]

3 hours ago, zitsky said:

Say what?!  I can put a cruise on layaway?

Other cruise lines have a much much smaller deposit or deals for a smaller deposit.  Much like putting a cruise on layaway...

Edited July 22, 2023 by NMTraveller