No more balcony smoking on Carnival

[CasinoCruzGirl]

It seems to me if NCL bans smoking on balconies people will jump ship like many have just done from carnival however I do see that NON smokers stay but just complain about it but don't go anywhere so it's NCLs best interest to stay the way they are

 

And all of this is kind of a mute point because this hasn't happened on NCL it happened on Carnival.

[mommyto2girls]

I never said you were a moron. I'm one of the few that agree with you. I'm on your side lol

 

That was not directed at you sorry if you thought it was.. It was for the people who just have no clue what they are talking about but yet continue to talk. . Sorry 😊

[KeithJenner]

It seems to me if NCL bans smoking on balconies people will jump ship like many have just done from carnival however I do see that NON smokers stay but just complain about it but don't go anywhere so it's NCLs best interest to stay the way they are

 

Not necessarily.

 

I am a non smoker, who generally doesn't have a problem with NCL's smoking policy. It would be better for me if smoking wasn't allowed, but I'm not too fussed either way.

 

I like to sit on my balcony at night (we travel with our son so tend to be in our cabin after 10ish when he's finished in the kids club. Only once have I noticed smoking from other balconies and, whilst it wasn't a major problem, it made the experience less enjoyable.

 

If there is actually a big influx of smokers from Carnival (and I'm not convinced there will actually be) then it could increase the probability of me being affected by smoke on the balcony.

 

There could be similar issues in other smoking areas (principally the Casino), where the proportion of smokers increase.

 

Judging by comments on here, I think I am bothered less by the smoke than a lot of others are, so it isn't unreasonable to suggest that NCL could lose a number of non smoking customers. It is possible that at some point I could be one of them, for example.

 

The deciding factor for NCL will end up being whether the number of smokers who move over from Carnival is more than the number of non smokers that they lose. We don't know the answer to that, but it is a fact that there are significantly more non smokers than there are smokers. That means that if, for example 1% of smokers moved to NCL and 1% of non smokers moved away then that would equal a net reduction in customers (the percentage was just for an example, I'm not actually suggesting that 1% would change).

 

One thing that NCL need to be careful to avoid is losing non smoking customers now and then changing the policy a year or two down the line. Smoking customers who come to NCL may not be loyal if they were unable to smoke. If they can't smoke on NCL or their current preference then perhaps they would go back to that preference. Meanwhile non smoking customers who have tried other lines wouldn't necessarily come rushing back if NCL subsequently banned (or partially banned).

 

It's a very difficult one to predict, but I'd be surprised if NCL aren't giving it a lot of thought.

[ggooglyboogly]

I hope NCL bans smoking on balconies, hearing droves of CCL smokers are coming to NCL sounds terrible! I guess the next thing to solve is how to deal with a smoker stinking up the elevator when they get on

[negc]

They tried that once on the Paradise, but it did not work at that time.

 

Never say never. Things have changed with regard to smoking in the years since the Paradise sailed as a totally non-smoking ship. The number of smokers has decreased considerably over the past several years and the number of lines which have decreased the areas of their ships were smoking is permitted has grown. As smoking becomes less prevalent among the cruising population, you can expect lines to increase those restrictions on smoking or perhaps ban it altogether. A decade ago, who would have confidently predicted that hotels, restaurants, bars, public spaces etc. would totally ban smoking?

[kteachcruiser52]

Not necessarily.

 

I am a non smoker, who generally doesn't have a problem with NCL's smoking policy. It would be better for me if smoking wasn't allowed, but I'm not too fussed either way.

 

I like to sit on my balcony at night (we travel with our son so tend to be in our cabin after 10ish when he's finished in the kids club. Only once have I noticed smoking from other balconies and, whilst it wasn't a major problem, it made the experience less enjoyable.

 

If there is actually a big influx of smokers from Carnival (and I'm not convinced there will actually be) then it could increase the probability of me being affected by smoke on the balcony.

 

There could be similar issues in other smoking areas (principally the Casino), where the proportion of smokers increase.

 

Judging by comments on here, I think I am bothered less by the smoke than a lot of others are, so it isn't unreasonable to suggest that NCL could lose a number of non smoking customers. It is possible that at some point I could be one of them, for example.

 

The deciding factor for NCL will end up being whether the number of smokers who move over from Carnival is more than the number of non smokers that they lose. We don't know the answer to that, but it is a fact that there are significantly more non smokers than there are smokers. That means that if, for example 1% of smokers moved to NCL and 1% of non smokers moved away then that would equal a net reduction in customers (the percentage was just for an example, I'm not actually suggesting that 1% would change).

 

One thing that NCL need to be careful to avoid is losing non smoking customers now and then changing the policy a year or two down the line. Smoking customers who come to NCL may not be loyal if they were unable to smoke. If they can't smoke on NCL or their current preference then perhaps they would go back to that preference. Meanwhile non smoking customers who have tried other lines wouldn't necessarily come rushing back if NCL subsequently banned (or partially banned).

 

It's a very difficult one to predict, but I'd be surprised if NCL aren't giving it a lot of thought.

 

We are non smokers who do not have strong feelings one way or the other concerning balcony smoking. I agree that economics will be the deciding factor if NCL follows Carnival in banning balcony smoking. Less than 20 % of people in the US are smokers. It has been estimated that less than that percentage are cruisers. If NCL finds they are losing more customers than they are gaining by allowing smoking on balconies, they too will adopt this no smoking policy. Their first obligation is to make money for the shareholders. I have read that NCL has been considering adopting the no smoking on balconies policy for the last 6 months. it is rumored that they will implement at the beginning of 2015. Perhaps an influx of smoking passengers will change this. Only time will tell.

[gooch47]

We are non-smokers and have often been chased off our balcony by smokers nearby. But we don't make a big deal out of it. We knew in advance that NCL allowed smoking on balconies.

 

But I'm a little concerned that the problem will get worse as Carnival smokers move over to NCL.

[emcelh]

I don't have many posts either..

 

I smoked for 32 years. I was outraged when Ohio passed the law of no smoking in work places. I was one of those that stood outside in the middle of a snow storm just so i could smoke. 2 packs or more a day..that was me. By not being able to smoke in my workplace, I was cut down to 1 pack a day.

Any cold i got went straight to my chest. I had bronchitis constantly. When a Dr told me that in 10 yrs I'd be on oxygen I knew I had to quit.

 

I was petrified. I had never tried to stop before. I knew i couldn't do it cold turkey.

 

I quit by using Chantix which is a prescription. It's been 7 yrs since i stopped smoking and it does make life easier being a non smoker. No more running outside at airports, or not watching a movie in a theatre without wanting a cigarette.

 

I don't mean this to be a holier than thou post. Just that i know where smokers are coming from and how they're feeling. I was right there with them.

 

I have never smoked another cigarette , but i do have to say that when i smell someone light up, that first whiff stills smells good.

 

I am not for the smokers nor the non smokers. I just wanted to say I understand the anger.

 

I could have written this because I know exactly what you're talking about. I've been there too.

[goldmom]

Trying to be fair to everyone here. When NCL limited indoor public room smoking to just the Casino, the casino became very smoky as all the smokers would go there just to smoke.

 

When they eliminating smoking in the cabins, smokers moved to the balconies.

 

Is they eliminate smoking on the balconies, the few areas left where smoking is permitted will become extremely congested and all the smoke will be condensed into a very small area making it overwhelming.

 

I've seen this in comparing Las Vegas to Atlantic City. In Vegas smoking in the casinos is pretty much everywhere and I didn't really notice much smoke. In Atlantic City it is confined to small sections of the casino and the air in those sections is thick with smoke.

 

Personally, I'd rather have someone smoking on their balcony where the smoke is pulled out on the wind than to concentrate the smoke in small areas around the pool and the casino.

Edited July 9, 2014 by goldmom

[okwriter]

I was going to book my 10th Carnival cruise within a few weeks. Now that won't happen.

I usually cruise with my friends, and we are all gamblers. We have always booked balconies or suites, and we spent PLENTY in the casino each cruise.

Now we'll just need to decide whether to try NCL, book an all-inclusive out of the country, or book a week-long trip to Vegas, Atlantic City, or elsewhere.

I'm disappointed about the new policy, but we girls will have fun wherever we are! It just won't be on a Carnival ship! :)

[realcindylouwho]

Due to the smoking policy changing on CCL, I am now moving my cruising addiction business over to NCL. I have always been a courteous smoker no matter where I am at, so if you are on a balcony next to me, I am approachable:D.

I have also read of the great casino perks the NCL offers, which is a bonus since we love to spend lots of time in the casino:eek:.

I am sure that other CCL smokers will also be coming this way.

Thanks to the poster on the CCL board that said "COME ON OVER TO NCL"...

Here I am and thanks for the invite:D

 

WELCOME TO NCL!!! I am the original poster who invited you, as a dissatisfied Carnival cruiser to sail NCL on the Carnival board. I believe it is post #241 on page thirteen. Long before it became crazy theme of the week. Please don't let any of the rude people try to scare you away. It seems they sail on all cruise lines. I'm certain you have encountered them before.

 

Anyway, as I said yesterday, NCL offers a great product and it seems as though you are learning about our CAS program. I'm not a gambler, so I'm not familiar with that program but please feel free to ask questions about it on a new thread, or search the forums for current info and opinion.

 

As a stockowner, new customers to the NCL base are a good thing. However, no one knows how long passengers will be allowed to smoke on their own balconies. Certainly part of the decision making process that Carnival used had to do with insurance costs and pressures from their insurance company. Everyone is aware that the spaces that smokers can smoke in is getting smaller and smaller. I do not see that trend reversing, ever.

 

I'm not a smoker, nor are any of my close friends or family members. If I could live in my own perfect little world, I would choose smoke free. However, I love to sail NCL and at this time NCL allows smoking on balconies. We have cruised 5 times in the past 5 years and only once have we been "bothered" by cigarette smoke from our neighbors aft suite balcony. Last year we smelled smoke in our aft suite, but it was coming from the service stairway next to us. I suspect the crew had found a place where the security cameras wouldn't capture them lighting up and they were enjoying a minute of relaxation. Didn't ruin or trip and we have two more NCL cruises booked.

 

At the end of the day, we all have to make choices and live with them. If a cruiser absolutely does not want to have to experience second hand smoke, they need to book on a smoke free cruise line. I will put up with a degree of smoke, I love NCL, so I will continue to choose NCL! Again, PittsburghGirlee welcome to NCL. I'm glad you are here.:D - Princess Cindy

[KweezyCruiser]

But I'm a little concerned that the problem will get worse as Carnival smokers move over to NCL.

 

This. I'm holding off on booking another NCL cruise until we see how this shakes out.

[luvtheships]

They tried that once on the Paradise, but it did not work at that time.

 

Ancient history. The thinking has changed in favor of non smoking

 

 

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[mpk218]

For both sides of the battle. If you want to have an impact , dont waste your time here trying to convince the world.. Email NCL corporate and let them know.

They are keeping score . ;)

[aubreyc1988]

I am so excited that CCL has moved to non smoking balconies! Not that being a ship that allows smoking on balconies has ever deterred me from booking, but as a non-smoker this is a definite plus for me! I somehow always get a balcony next to someone who is a heavy smoker and it always pushes me to go back inside my cabin because of the smell!

 

Don't hate, but I cannot wait until a there a major cruiseline that is completely smoke-free. It definitely will sway my decision, as I hate the smoking in casinos and on balconies.

 

Like I said, just my opinion, and I am sure if I smoked I would feel differently. But I don't smoke and that's just the way the cookie crumbles.

[karen&roy]

We are non-smokers and have often been chased off our balcony by smokers nearby. But we don't make a big deal out of it. We knew in advance that NCL allowed smoking on balconies.

 

But I'm a little concerned that the problem will get worse as Carnival smokers move over to NCL.

 

 

I for one canceled my Carnival cruise today and am coming to NCL..be afraid..I come with tattoos also!! LOL:rolleyes:

[tonit964]

I for one canceled my Carnival cruise today and am coming to NCL..be afraid..I come with tattoos also!! LOL:rolleyes:

 

Don't forget to change your countdown clock. :)

[Billy RTBA]

This. I'm holding off on booking another NCL cruise until we see how this shakes out.

 

 

Great news, less competition for the good cabins!

[gooch47]

I for one canceled my Carnival cruise today and am coming to NCL..be afraid..I come with tattoos also!! LOL:rolleyes:

 

Not sure why I deserved the rolling eyes.

 

I said we didn't make a big deal out of it. Just concerned that we will have to move more often.

 

P.S. I have nothing against ink. Half my relatives have it.

[babyher]

do you know the difference between people with tattoos and people without tattoos?

 

People with tattoos do not mind if you don't have one!

 

:)

 

 

 

 

 

*like*

[babyher]

I for one canceled my Carnival cruise today and am coming to NCL..be afraid..I come with tattoos also!! LOL:rolleyes:

 

 

 

fellow tattooed smoker , I may be joining you.

[medicalma'am]

I have been bothered a few times on my balcony but can always find a smoke free place on the ships. I am sure that NCL will gain some smokers and the other cruise lines that are smoke free will gain the non-smokers. It is just a shuffling of the deck, so to speak. :p

 

Bottom line, I hope NCL will benefit from this.

[SASA13]

fellow tattooed smoker , I may be joining you.

 

This morning DH stated that after our Sept cruise on CCL, that is it. NCL will get all our business now, until they go smoke free on the balconies

and then who knows

[CasinoCruzGirl]

I hope NCL bans smoking on balconies, hearing droves of CCL smokers are coming to NCL sounds terrible! I guess the next thing to solve is how to deal with a smoker stinking up the elevator when they get on

 

Or the woman with 100 year old perfume? Or the fat guy who takes up to much space? Get over yourself

[ggooglyboogly]

Or the woman with 100 year old perfume? Or the fat guy who takes up to much space? Get over yourself

 

I am neither of those things! I'll be just fine thank you!