Rare MicCanberra Posted December 17, 2017 #26 Share Posted December 17, 2017 When did they change it to December???:o:rolleyes:;) My mistake, I meant November (3 months worth).:o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MicCanberra Posted December 17, 2017 #27 Share Posted December 17, 2017 Not in Australia, it runs 1 Sept to 30 Nov. an artefact of the fact that our seasons rally aren’t that variable over most of the Country. Correct.:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATC cruiser Posted December 17, 2017 #28 Share Posted December 17, 2017 Not in Australia, it runs 1 Sept to 30 Nov. an artefact of the fact that our seasons rally aren’t that variable over most of the Country. Wrong. Google solstice and equinox. The sun crosses the equator at the same time in the northern and southern hemispheres. Now if your talking meteorological seasons then you are correct. Sent from my iPad using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MicCanberra Posted December 17, 2017 #29 Share Posted December 17, 2017 Wrong. Google solstice and equinox. The sun crosses the equator at the same time in the northern and southern hemispheres. Now if your talking meteorological seasons then you are correct. Sent from my iPad using Forums Theoretically the solstices and the equinoxes are in the middle of the seasons, not the respective seasons when it comes to weather conditions. Using the Calender months just makes it easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navybankerteacher Posted December 17, 2017 #30 Share Posted December 17, 2017 Theoretically the solstices and the equinoxes are in the middle of the seasons, not the respective seasons when it comes to weather conditions.Using the Calender months just makes it easier. I'll acknowledge that you Aussies are special - but solstices are what they are - and not subject to regional definition: Dec. 21 (+/-) and June 21 (+/-) . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MicCanberra Posted December 17, 2017 #31 Share Posted December 17, 2017 I'll acknowledge that you Aussies are special - but solstices are what they are - and not subject to regional definition: Dec. 21 (+/-) and June 21 (+/-) . I don't dispute this, what I meant is that the Solstice is the height of the season not the start of it. It is well and truly hot before the summer solstice arrives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donaldsc Posted December 17, 2017 #32 Share Posted December 17, 2017 The sun still rises in the east and sets in the west. Sent from my iPad using Forums Not necessarily. We did a long land trip to Australia a few years back. I had many people convinced that the sun rose in the west because we were south of the equator. Just proves that you can fool some of the people all the time. DON Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MicCanberra Posted December 17, 2017 #33 Share Posted December 17, 2017 Not necessarily. We did a long land trip to Australia a few years back. I had many people convinced that the sun rose in the west because we were south of the equator. Just proves that you can fool some of the people all the time. DON LOL, that would explain why the water goes down the drain the other way as well.;p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Keith1010 Posted December 17, 2017 #34 Share Posted December 17, 2017 As mentioned port side would likely get the most afternoon sun. My recommendation on this type of sailing is to place more emphasis on where on the deck you are located rather then on what side but if you like to spend a lot of time on your balcony and the sun is important then go with the port side. Keith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navybankerteacher Posted December 17, 2017 #35 Share Posted December 17, 2017 I don't dispute this, what I meant is that the Solstice is the height of the season not the start of it. It is well and truly hot before the summer solstice arrives. Perhaps Australia is really special after all. In the US the coldest part of winter is generally in January and February - well after the December solstice; and Summer's real heat hits us in July and August - again well after the June solstice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATC cruiser Posted December 17, 2017 #36 Share Posted December 17, 2017 LOL, that would explain why the water goes down the drain the other way as well.;p I’ve often wondered about that Sent from my iPad using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeagleOne Posted December 18, 2017 #37 Share Posted December 18, 2017 We know that the earth is not flat because if it were, cats would have knocked everything off the edges already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MicCanberra Posted December 18, 2017 #38 Share Posted December 18, 2017 we know that the earth is not flat because if it were, cats would have knocked everything off the edges already. lol, :d Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsrdsrdsr Posted December 18, 2017 #39 Share Posted December 18, 2017 Do you sail on ships where higher deck balconies extend further out than lower ones? When the sun is more or less directly overhead, a balcony above that extends the same distance as your own will block the sun. It doesn't need to extend further, just the same distance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruiserBruce Posted December 19, 2017 #40 Share Posted December 19, 2017 Perhaps Australia is really special after all. In the US the coldest part of winter is generally in January and February - well after the December solstice; and Summer's real heat hits us in July and August - again well after the June solstice. This would depend on where you live. In our area, the coldest average temps are in the 10-20 days at and just after the December solstice. But more rain (which usually warms us) comes in January and February. I am aware the worst winter storms in the Midwest and Eastern areas do come after January 1. But the US is a big country...just like Australia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ldubs Posted December 19, 2017 #41 Share Posted December 19, 2017 This would depend on where you live. In our area, the coldest average temps are in the 10-20 days at and just after the December solstice. But more rain (which usually warms us) comes in January and February. I am aware the worst winter storms in the Midwest and Eastern areas do come after January 1. But the US is a big country...just like Australia. Coldest weather in San Francisco happens in July -- according to Mark Twain. :D It wasn't unusual to leave the office with a coat and get off the train in the East Bay in 90 deg heat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navybankerteacher Posted December 19, 2017 #42 Share Posted December 19, 2017 When the sun is more or less directly overhead, a balcony above that extends the same distance as your own will block the sun. It doesn't need to extend further, just the same distance. OP was interested in "afternoon sun" - which for the most part is not directly overhead - a ship on a generally northbound course from Australia to Hawaii will have the afternoon sun to port - regardless of how overhead balconies extend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwake Posted December 19, 2017 #43 Share Posted December 19, 2017 Seasonal lag is a bit complicated and different north and south of the Equator. The Earth is at perihelion in early January and aphelion in early July. So for the Southern Hemisphere summer, we are closer to the Sun and there is much less seasonal lag. Summer in Australia starts many weeks before the solstice. When I immigrated form Australia to the US many years ago, having seasons start at the equinoxes and solstices seemed totally ridiculous to me. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MicCanberra Posted December 19, 2017 #44 Share Posted December 19, 2017 This would depend on where you live. In our area, the coldest average temps are in the 10-20 days at and just after the December solstice. But more rain (which usually warms us) comes in January and February. I am aware the worst winter storms in the Midwest and Eastern areas do come after January 1. But the US is a big country...just like Australia. Both a very large land masses that have huge differences in temperatures from one part to another. Currently sweltering with 39 Celcius (103 f) here. Summer has definitely been around longer than two weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUT2407 Posted December 19, 2017 #45 Share Posted December 19, 2017 Both a very large land masses that have huge differences in temperatures from one part to another.Currently sweltering with 39 Celcius (103 f) here. Summer has definitely been around longer than two weeks. Only 39, 42 here at 4:45 tomorrow is meant to be hotter, I hope they’ve fixed the air con at the hospital recovery ward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MicCanberra Posted December 19, 2017 #46 Share Posted December 19, 2017 Only 39, 42 here at 4:45 tomorrow is meant to be hotter, I hope they’ve fixed the air con at the hospital recovery ward. I hope so too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladybird1292 Posted January 26, 2018 Author #47 Share Posted January 26, 2018 As mentioned port side would likely get the most afternoon sun. My recommendation on this type of sailing is to place more emphasis on where on the deck you are located rather then on what side but if you like to spend a lot of time on your balcony and the sun is important then go with the port side. Keith Thanks Keith, sorry for my late response, we decided to book Portside, so that's great confirmation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spookwife Posted January 26, 2018 #48 Share Posted January 26, 2018 Please don't be one of those Hemisphobic cruisers.;p Our calendar has spring in September, October and December. do you not have November in Oz?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Keith1010 Posted January 27, 2018 #49 Share Posted January 27, 2018 Thanks Keith, sorry for my late response, we decided to book Portside, so that's great confirmation. LadyBird1292, you are very welcome. Glad to hear that you have the cruise booked. Keith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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