FL proposes Beach smoking ban, will Royal follow lead?

[BEENSAILING]

1 minute ago, nelblu said:

 

Really, no smoking on ships for the entire cruise.  Wonder what smokers do to survive.

Oz -  indoors only. Casino and if the ships have there have other indoor smoking facilities (like some Royal ships have the Connoisseur club.)

[Milwaukee Eight]

12 hours ago, nelblu said:

 

Really, no smoking on ships for the entire cruise.  Wonder what smokers do to survive.

Good way to start them on their way to quitting. 

 

Just clean up the indoor areas with NO SMOKING indoors. Also, don’t permit smoking in public areas of the beaches at Coco Cay and Labadee. 

[whyrlygig]

I hope this happens! Our Public parks and beaches banned smoking more than a decade ago. It’s a very pleasant change!  

[clean1owner]

On 1/3/2019 at 2:07 PM, CRUISEFAN0001 said:

It's only a matter of time when 1 cruise line takes the bold move to do a ban.  Once that happens...the others will follow in lightening pace.

 

Casinos onboard are already terrible gas chambers because of smokers, and plenty of folks would welcome the end to coddling the tobacco puffers. It will happen at some point.

 

 

But they should coddle the non-smokers instead? 

 

[Cruise Girl Forever]

I fully understand that a non smoker does not want the second hand smoke or put up with the smell.

 

I don't understand the issue with vaping.  It should take care of non-smokers concerns.  No fire or flame, no second hand smoke,

no odor on the person that has vaped.  For many people it has helped them stop smoking which is a good thing..great thing.  Yet we shove those vaping in a smoking section so they can still get second hand smoke and smell like an ashtray.  No need for them to do it in the dining room, theater, state room, ect.

 

With these mega ships and 5000+ people there will be many behaviors that will not be like yours or mine. And I am a senior so I have known for years you will never please everyone.  Just go nuts trying.  

 

[clean1owner]

2 minutes ago, Cruise Girl Forever said:

I fully understand that a non smoker does not want the second hand smoke or put up with the smell.

 

I don't understand the issue with vaping.  It should take care of non-smokers concerns.  No fire or flame, no second hand smoke,

no odor on the person that has vaped.  For many people it has helped them stop smoking which is a good thing..great thing.  Yet we shove those vaping in a smoking section so they can still get second hand smoke and smell like an ashtray.  No need for them to do it in the dining room, theater, state room, ect.

 

With these mega ships and 5000+ people there will be many behaviors that will not be like yours or mine. And I am a senior so I have known for years you will never please everyone.  Just go nuts trying.  

 

 

 

It's all about trying to make others conform to what you do or don't like.

[clean1owner]

On 1/4/2019 at 10:27 AM, Milwaukee Eight said:

I’ll never agree that smokers should be provided an indoor area to smoke. Personally, I don’t think they should use the elevator/lift or sit at tables with non-smokers.  

 

 

And I don't think that people who don't properly dress for dinner should be allowed in the MDR.  

 

But as the Rolling Stones sing, "You can't always get what you want."

[clean1owner]

On 1/3/2019 at 2:57 PM, setsail said:

Have any of you been on a fl beach lately, it's loaded with butts

 

 

And many you don't want to see!!

[clean1owner]

On 1/3/2019 at 7:37 PM, neverbeenhere said:

 

Better stop the drinker, gamblers and over eaters too. Heck, I even say ban the fitness facilities on ships. 

 

Just trying to do people a big favor. 🤪

 

 

And the 200+ pounders thinking they can wear a thong or speedo at the pool.

[clean1owner]

On 1/4/2019 at 10:27 AM, Milwaukee Eight said:

I’ll never agree that smokers should be provided an indoor area to smoke. Personally, I don’t think they should use the elevator/lift or sit at tables with non-smokers.  

 

And neither should those guys who bathe in Axe cologne, or women who wear perfume that more closely resembled Raid bug spray or mosquito repellant.

[CRUISEFAN0001]

3 hours ago, clean1owner said:

 

 

But they should coddle the non-smokers instead? 

 

Heck yeah - not smoking is normal...smoking is a bad, destructive, filthy, unnecessary habit.

[clean1owner]

1 minute ago, CRUISEFAN0001 said:

Heck yeah - not smoking is normal...smoking is a bad, destructive, filthy, unnecessary habit.

 

 

Many think the same about drinking, but never see any threads about banning the bars.

[Cruise Girl Forever]

This thing with the elevator has to be a joke, Right?  Imagine a smoker booking a suite and being told they can not use the elevator.  Or getting a note in you cabin stating your bar tab is too low therefore we are revoking your elevator privileges.

Ps a customer complaint that you  cut one in the elevator so you are confined to the open decks.

 

When does it end.  

[Aquahound]

Interesting...the comments in this thread.  I'm pretty sure beach bans are mostly about the litter, not the smoke.  

[CRUISEFAN0001]

47 minutes ago, clean1owner said:

 

 

Many think the same about drinking, but never see any threads about banning the bars.

That's on the "list" - there's plenty of abuses of the beverage packages (and countless threads on that topic). 

Edited January 5, 2019 by CRUISEFAN0001

[Cruise Girl Forever]

12 minutes ago, Aquahound said:

Interesting...the comments in this thread.  I'm pretty sure beach bans are mostly about the litter, not the smoke.  

Here in New Jersey had a clean air bill or act, passed a few years ago.  the governor at the time did not enforce it on beaches, broadwalks or  in parks.  This year our new governor did.  I know one shore town did have volunteers that cleaned the beaches.

This summer all Jersey shore towns are non smoking or vaping.  It will be interesting to see what impact it has if any on revenue.

The fines are very stuff for anyone who violates the new rules.  Most were concerned that the lifeguards would be distracted from watching people in the water, since they would have to look out for those smoking or vaping as well.  So instead they are hiring additional police for that job. 

 

The liter as far as here did not seems to be the primary reason for it.  More like an add-on.

 

To address the original topic of this thread.  No, I don't think private islands should banned smoking.  People work very hard now a days and life can be stressful.  I feel they should be able to enjoy their vacation too.  Its only one day out of an entire cruise.  I am fine with it.  And I have not smoked in 12 years.

[SRF]

On 1/3/2019 at 2:36 PM, CRUISEFAN0001 said:

I suspect the 80% of folks who don't smoke would welcome a full ban. 

 

The smokers don't realize or admit to it...but they'd be doing them a big favor...yet another incentive to quit.

 

Why is it your job to "go them a big favor" them?  And maybe they don't WANT your favor?

 

[CRUISEFAN0001]

1 hour ago, SRF said:

 

Why is it your job to "go help them by doing a big favor"?  And maybe they don't WANT your favor?

 

Fixed your post.

 

Favors are free. Doing the right thing is good.

 

You're welcome.

[BillOh]

On 1/3/2019 at 1:44 PM, theotherchad said:

I hope neither change happens. I don't smoke, and I don't like the smell of it, but I can't think of a place where someone's smoke is less likely to bother me than a beach. I do think they should throw the book at smokers who litter the beach (or anywhere else) with their cigarette butts. 

 

As to the vaping, meh. It doesn't really bother me. They usually don't smell bad. It's their lungs.

And when your in an elevator or other indoor environment is in your lungs with a moist medium.

[BillOh]

On 1/3/2019 at 2:36 PM, CRUISEFAN0001 said:

I suspect the 80% of folks who don't smoke would welcome a full ban. 

 

The smokers don't realize or admit to it...but they'd be doing them a big favor...yet another incentive to quit.

On a positive note, the smoky casinos are incentive for me to avoid them. 🙂

[CRUISEFAN0001]

10 minutes ago, BillOh said:

On a positive note, the smoky casinos are incentive for me to avoid them. 🙂

You have a point there sir.

 

We managed a very brief time on Ovation recently in the Casino to avoid the smoky gas chamber there.

 

Since I'm headed to Vegas anyway soon, I can cure any casino visit urges in smoke-free sections provided by a few select establishments there (several of them).

 

It seems quite ironic that Royal is paying a ton of money to clean the fuel emissions from their ships, while retaining select areas onboard to house choking-level smoker sections.

 

Happy clean-air sailing.

Edited January 6, 2019 by CRUISEFAN0001

[DirtyDawg]

23 minutes ago, BillOh said:

On a positive note, the smoky casinos are incentive for me to avoid them. 🙂

 

 That's why I love RCL. Mrs. Dawg can't stand the smoke in the casino and won't go in.🤢 Which is great for the pocket book! 

 

She loves Celebrity's non-smoking casinos which is why I don't like sailing with Celebrity too often. Sure, it's better for her lungs but really bad for the bank account. 

 

 

Edited January 6, 2019 by DirtyDawg

[brillohead]

It would be interesting if the proportion of casino dedicated to smoking were commensurate with the proportion of the population that smokes.  

Glass off 15% of the casino and keep the smokers (and smoking employees who volunteer to work in that carcinogenic environment) confined in that area -- keep the rest of the casino smoke-free.  

If the smokers complain about being restricted to a smaller section of the casino, or not wanting to be cooped up in a room of nasty smoky air, then they will have made the point for all the non-smokers.... why should non-smokers have a smaller section of the casino or have to be subjected to the nasty smoky air. 

[brillohead]

Although, once again, this thread is supposed to be about banning smoking on BEACHES, not on ships....

[clean1owner]

10 hours ago, BillOh said:

And when your in an elevator or other indoor environment is in your lungs with a moist medium.

 

And for the short period you are in the vicinity, doesn't hurt a thing.