Grandma Cruising Posted March 15, 2019 #1 Share Posted March 15, 2019 (edited) I am maintaining this sticky topic and a spreadsheet, for people who are willing to post their upgrade bidding experience to help us all. If you’re happy to do so could you please let us know the following: - bid date - cruise date - cruise length - loyalty level - minimum bid required for upgrade (in US$) - total amount bid (in US$) - cabin type initially booked - cabin type bid for - final bid cost per night (in US$) - bid strength - outcome (successful or not) - cruise region - any other useful information (E.g when told about outcome) Here’s a link to the spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1pEoojQ5-EPmD4cI3gw1dVcYfYTXfZePdDXxU09l0H3M/edit Edited March 25 by Host Jazzbeau spreadsheet is again being updated as of 3-25-24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marinaro44 Posted March 15, 2019 #2 Share Posted March 15, 2019 Booked: Club Ocean Offered: Club World Minimum bid: $370 per person (deemed "weak" of course) Lowest "fair" bid: $640 per person Lowest "strong" bid: $800 per person Result: no bid made Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare uktog Posted March 15, 2019 #3 Share Posted March 15, 2019 These offers are for the same figures for two cruises of different lengths Note as we are UK bookers all these first prices are sterling second set are likely $ price if a bid was accepted today Booked: V1 Balcony Offered All suite categories results below are club continent/spa/Ocean/Owners Minimum Bid £150/1610/1910/2140 $198/2125/2522/2825 per person deemed weak Lowest fair bit £ 640/1970/2470/2760 $845/2600/3260/3645 per person Lowest strong bid £910/2180/2780/3100 $1200/2877/3670/4092 per person Result: No bid made Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandma Cruising Posted March 15, 2019 Author #4 Share Posted March 15, 2019 It’s been suggested that it might be helpful to also include the ship, cruise start date and cruise length, if possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hiccups Posted March 15, 2019 #5 Share Posted March 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, Host Grandma Cruising said: It’s been suggested that it might be helpful to also include the ship, cruise start date and cruise length, if possible. And perhaps LCV status? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandma Cruising Posted March 16, 2019 Author #6 Share Posted March 16, 2019 12 hours ago, hiccups said: And perhaps LCV status? Agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare uktog Posted March 16, 2019 #7 Share Posted March 16, 2019 Wouldn’t it be simpler to wait and just collate any successful bids people are prepared to share. And set a structure for posts. This is getting way to complicated and will get too confusing i have discovered certainl6 just now the offer is standard, so once we know the ranges for the various grades of room a simple table can capture it all for everyone and all the extraneous clutter can be dumped. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyber Kat Posted March 16, 2019 #8 Share Posted March 16, 2019 16 hours ago, hiccups said: And perhaps LCV status? Newbie here. Isn’t that the same as loyalty level? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hiccups Posted March 16, 2019 #9 Share Posted March 16, 2019 18 minutes ago, Cyber Kat said: Newbie here. Isn’t that the same as loyalty level? It is, but the first couple bids didn't include it. Possibly like me, they missed it in the first post. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
excitedofharpenden Posted March 16, 2019 #10 Share Posted March 16, 2019 3 hours ago, uktog said: Wouldn’t it be simpler to wait and just collate any successful bids people are prepared to share. And set a structure for posts. This is getting way to complicated and will get too confusing i have discovered certainl6 just now the offer is standard, so once we know the ranges for the various grades of room a simple table can capture it all for everyone and all the extraneous clutter can be dumped. Totally agree. I really don't think we need another sticky either. In my view we have too many of them as it is on this board. You end up not seeing the wood for the trees. I have to page half way down the first page to get to live posts. Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandma Cruising Posted March 16, 2019 Author #11 Share Posted March 16, 2019 (edited) 52 minutes ago, excitedofharpenden said: Totally agree. I really don't think we need another sticky either. In my view we have too many of them as it is on this board. You end up not seeing the wood for the trees. I have to page half way down the first page to get to live posts. Phil I too was a bit concerned that we now have a lot of sticky threads, Phil. I have unpinned a couple of them. I think this one is worth leaving here for a while at least, until we have some more information. I’m sure it will slow down once people have more experience of the process and I could then unpin it. 4 hours ago, uktog said: Wouldn’t it be simpler to wait and just collate any successful bids people are prepared to share. And set a structure for posts. This is getting way to complicated and will get too confusing i have discovered certainl6 just now the offer is standard, so once we know the ranges for the various grades of room a simple table can capture it all for everyone and all the extraneous clutter can be dumped. I certainly think that now we understand the bidding process a bit better, it would be sensible to only gather information about bids that are actually made, and then (later obviously) their success or otherwise. I’ve been thinking about how to put it into a table - not easy given the number of variables. Any ideas you have would be gratefully received. The following structure captures everything that posters have suggested, but I’m very open to other ideas. 1. LCV level 2. Ship, cruise date, length & region 3. Cabin type booked 4. Cabin type(s) bid for with amount(s) bid & strength of bid(s) Then at a later date people could return and say whether any of their bids were successful. Edited March 16, 2019 by Host Grandma Cruising 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DebbieMacG Posted March 21, 2019 #12 Share Posted March 21, 2019 (edited) 1. LCV level Discover, I had already requested upgrade through previous LCV program 2. Ship, cruise date, length & region Journey 28th May 19 14 nights Barcelona to Greenwich 3. Cabin type booked accessible inside 4. Cabin type(s) bid for with amount(s) bid & strength of bid(s) ocean view (told I would only be upgraded to an accessible) bid minimum bid of $200pp weak I’ve had an email thanking me for my bid, I didn’t get the original email inviting me to bid but used the link from Bonnie Edited March 21, 2019 by DebbieMacG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawnino Posted March 21, 2019 #13 Share Posted March 21, 2019 On 3/16/2019 at 6:39 AM, uktog said: Wouldn’t it be simpler to wait and just collate any successful bids people are prepared to share. And set a structure for posts. This is getting way to complicated and will get too confusing This. The NCL thread has thousands of posts and is only of use to people who can out-do "Rain Man". The more compact we can get it, the more useful it may be. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandma Cruising Posted March 21, 2019 Author #14 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Once I have some successful bids I will try to summarise the key information in some way. Not sure how yet (I’d welcome advice from anyone who’s a whiz on presenting quite complicated information in table or similar form). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare uktog Posted March 21, 2019 #15 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Just now, Host Grandma Cruising said: Once I have some successful bids I will try to summarise the key information in some way. Not sure how yet (I’d welcome advice from anyone who’s a whiz on presenting quite complicated information in table or similar form). Use an excel spreadsheet, slot bids into some order as you transfer information over then save the spreadsheet as a PDF file to upload it here. It really has to be excel or a more advanced database such as Access saved back as a PDF to be useful. Whoever looks after the spreadsheet has to do the work to keep the sheet useful and you need to minimise the information you gather. So date, bidder loyalty level, category bid (e.g. verandah) minimum acceptable bid, (figure) bid made (figure) bid strength (weak, fair strong) outcome (upgraded or not). It looks from the data to date that ship and length of cruise is irrelevant the bid figures set by Azamara are the same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandma Cruising Posted March 21, 2019 Author #16 Share Posted March 21, 2019 (edited) Thanks for the suggestions Not using ship, cruise length or region would be helpful. I’ll have a go - I’m quite happy using a spreadsheet. Can you tell me why it needs to be saved as a PDF for a link to be uploaded? For the Tips for Azamara Newbies file I just used a google spreadsheet with sharing permission and posted the link. Edited March 21, 2019 by Host Grandma Cruising Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare uktog Posted March 21, 2019 #17 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Because a PDF can be read but not edited by anyone, you need to retain some control or a mischief maker could come in a wreck the sheet. Google is not user friendly on many systems - for example many macs, hence why I can never see any of the sheets you upload Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandma Cruising Posted March 21, 2019 Author #18 Share Posted March 21, 2019 OK, I didn’t appreciate that. Strange that something put together on an IPad can’t be read by a Mac. I can read it on my Mac, but maybe that’s because it’s in my ICloud. I will save it as a PDF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabo Posted March 21, 2019 #19 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Denise . . . The “Journey 1 July 2019” Google spreadsheet you created is view only, so others cannot change what you have created. I can read that file fine on all of my Apple products (MacBook Air, iPad, and iPhone). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandma Cruising Posted March 21, 2019 Author #20 Share Posted March 21, 2019 59 minutes ago, Rabo said: Denise . . . The “Journey 1 July 2019” Google spreadsheet you created is view only, so others cannot change what you have created. I can read that file fine on all of my Apple products (MacBook Air, iPad, and iPhone). That's what I thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandma Cruising Posted March 21, 2019 Author #21 Share Posted March 21, 2019 I’ve had a go at a table using the one reported bid. Here’s the link to it.https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1pEoojQ5-EPmD4cI3gw1dVcYfYTXfZePdDXxU09l0H3M This is in Google Sheets. I will try to put a PDF. Version too. Does this look useful set out like this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandma Cruising Posted March 21, 2019 Author #22 Share Posted March 21, 2019 I think this is a PDF version - let me know if you can see it. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1pEoojQ5-EPmD4cI3gw1dVcYfYTXfZePdDXxU09l0H3M/edit#gid=1324851281 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray in NH Posted March 21, 2019 #23 Share Posted March 21, 2019 13 minutes ago, Host Grandma Cruising said: I think this is a PDF version - let me know if you can see it. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1pEoojQ5-EPmD4cI3gw1dVcYfYTXfZePdDXxU09l0H3M/edit#gid=1324851281 They look to be pretty much the same, based on my quick scanning. Thank you, NRayH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandma Cruising Posted March 21, 2019 Author #24 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Thanks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DebbieMacG Posted March 22, 2019 #25 Share Posted March 22, 2019 The cruise date for my bid is 28th May 2019 not 19th May 😀 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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