CL/SL future when cruising returns.

[Dennis#1]

6 minutes ago, Milwaukee Eight said:

I believe before COVID19, you could use your SeaPass HH drinks for a frozen drink. If you wanted Diamond List alcohol, it would use two of the 3 drinks on card. 
 

M8

Never had  2 of the 3 drinks on card used for a frozen drink.  Just had to give the bartender a tip after each drink, and they seem to remember the cruisers that tip.

[yogimax]

6 hours ago, LXA350 said:

I mentioned it already before, if they load 1-2 Speciality Coffee's, 3 Soft drinks and 1-2 Premium alcoholic drinks per day to your Sea Pass card this gives you much more value than the Lounge with cheap wines that taste like vinegar and some useless snacks, not like there is not enough food on board anyhow.

Nonsense!   Many folks, including us, don't drink soft drinks and have 1 cappuccino (at most) all day.  So you are equating 2 alcoholic drinks to unlimited drinks during Happy Hour and 3 more that can be used during dinner.

 

Sorry, but your many doesn't add up!

[yogimax]

1 hour ago, grapau27 said:

What we don't want is people saying get rid of this benefit and that benefit or get rid of this or that lounge otherwise they might just do that and say they are 

Enhancing your Cruise by 

Popular demand.

Exactly!

 

[yogimax]

43 minutes ago, Milwaukee Eight said:

I believe before COVID19, you could use your SeaPass HH drinks for a frozen drink. If you wanted Diamond List alcohol, it would use two of the 3 drinks on card. 
 

M8

Huh?  I commend you for your creative imagination!

[John&LaLa]

14 hours ago, compman9 said:

 

This is interesting and in the end it gets to the crux of the matter.

 

When I was a child, cruising was for very rich people.

 

The cruise-lines today make the experience more accessible to 'ordinary' people. This has made them multinational businesses with shareholders, big bank balances and major world investments, including private islands.

 

They have achieved this by creating a loyalty programme, which keeps people coming back for more, while new cruisers add to this every cruise. The cruiseline knows that X% of cruises will be filled by loyal passengers - They will create all financial forecasts and business plans on that basis.

 

I have read the thread thoroughly and something has become clear.

 

Some people that can afford that old style experience rightly expect the very best treatment, which they get, including a little man (invariably from the third world) that will wait on them like a 19th century servant.

 

The loyal guests, upon which these multinational companies have built their empires, do not begrudge the rich folk these excesses.

 

But it seems SOME of those people that 'can afford' the old style privilege and luxury, believe they should be recognised above all (especially those that cannot afford their luxuries), and people that enjoy a similar level of experience should not be as appreciated by the company. Often they won't mind them receiving the luxuries, they just want to make sure their is a dividing line of acknowledgement.

 

Cruise Critic has always been good fun, and amazing for tips. The best thing though, is when people share their joyful experiences. My old gran used to say there were two types of people - Those that were happy for folk that won the lottery and those that aren't. 

 

I am happy for those that can afford the best in life - Some have worked very hard to achieve it. But I also enjoy watching the old folk  wearing their Pinnacle badges with pride. Especially the singletons, who have earned that acknowledgement with shared experiences with a loved one they have lost. 

 

What makes you think all solo Pins have lost a loved one.🤔

[John&LaLa]

9 hours ago, LXA350 said:

 

That's why we have so many D+ and Pinacles. You even have couples where the wife or vice versa is sent on cruises solo in a inside cabin on a very cheap fare to gain the points.

 

Hence, anything below passengers that gained their statuses with balcony cabins or above probably are only worth investing into. At the end a couple cruising in a GS or above is much more valuable than many customers with D+ and Pinnacle status.

 

Sent on cruises🤣🤣

[grapau27]

1 minute ago, John&LaLa said:

 

What makes you think all solo Pins have lost a loved one.🤔

Welcome back.

[John&LaLa]

8 hours ago, Oxo said:

What do you think D+ is worth compared to D in $ or Sterling?

 

 

Depends on the point total for several benefits.

The 150% surcharge for solo cruising might be worth thousands😉

[John&LaLa]

8 hours ago, grapau27 said:

Probably at a guess for us to make D+ around £250,000 or about $350,000 spent with RCL.

We do not gamble and never played or used D+ casino free vouchers otherwise our spend would have been a lot more.

That's why when CL access was offered for D+ they should honour it even if we only use it sparingly.

Cost and worth are two different matters.

 

BTW, we made Pinnacle at right around $100K not counting travel and onboard spend

[John&LaLa]

7 hours ago, RFerrington said:

I love the idea of a priority GS line !

 

Freedom used to have one

[John&LaLa]

6 hours ago, HBE4 said:

 

Sounds perfect! 👍  Those are the reasons I would only sail in a balcony or above.  

 

Also sounds like you don't miss access to the CL at all.  Just out of curiosity, if Royal reversed course and granted D+ access to the CL (or SL as it may be, if renamed to be CL), would you go? Or once you reach Pinnacle status?

 

Asking for a friend and trying to stay on topic. 😇

 

 

Balconies are over rated😉🤣🤣

[John&LaLa]

5 hours ago, grapau27 said:

1 Yesterday at the English Lake District.

2 Today at our local beach 5 minutes drive away.

 

What's the weather like up there

[John&LaLa]

1 hour ago, yogimax said:

Huh?  I commend you for your creative imagination!

 

They started that in November. Norhing creative about it.  It was pretty much fleetwide by February

 

 

Edited July 25, 2020 by John&LaLa

[grapau27]

6 minutes ago, John&LaLa said:

 

What's the weather like up there

70°f today.

[John&LaLa]

Just now, grapau27 said:

70°f today.

 

Nice, and thanks for Farenheit 😁

 

We were 84

[grapau27]

8 minutes ago, John&LaLa said:

 

They started that in November. Norhing creative about it.  It was pretty much fleetwide by February

 

 

I remember you posting this because I thought Pauline could get  a Pina Colada now.

 

Edited July 25, 2020 by grapau27

[Ocean Boy]

8 hours ago, RFerrington said:

I love the idea of a priority GS line !

Go at 5AM like I do and you get priority without being in a GS.

[Ocean Boy]

44 minutes ago, John&LaLa said:

 

Nice, and thanks for Farenheit 😁

 

We were 84

82 here. Oh yeah, that is in F.

[Ocean Boy]

1 hour ago, grapau27 said:

Welcome back.

...again.

[HBE4]

51 minutes ago, John&LaLa said:

 

Nice, and thanks for Farenheit 😁

 

We were 84

 

One hour north of NYC, balmy 92. 

[John&LaLa]

12 minutes ago, Ocean Boy said:

82 here. Oh yeah, that is in F.

 

Sea temp here is 83°

 

Pretty sure its around 70° up there😉

[zekekelso]

So let me get this straight...  RCL has decided to thank its best customers by allowing them to order a *virgin* frozen drink. 

[Ocean Boy]

3 minutes ago, zekekelso said:

So let me get this straight...  RCL has decided to thank its best customers by allowing them to order a *virgin* frozen drink. 

It is a step up from no frozen drinks at all. A nice gesture for those who don't drink alcohol.

[HBE4]

5 minutes ago, zekekelso said:

So let me get this straight...  RCL has decided to thank its best customers by allowing them to order a *virgin* frozen drink. 

 

I think tbe *virgin* can be deflowered but it costs a 2nd swipe of the seapass card.

 

Not sure how it works in the DL. Maybe cash tip? 

[John&LaLa]

54 minutes ago, zekekelso said:

So let me get this straight...  RCL has decided to thank its best customers by allowing them to order a *virgin* frozen drink. 

 

47 minutes ago, HBE4 said:

 

I think tbe *virgin* can be deflowered but it costs a 2nd swipe of the seapass card.

 

Not sure how it works in the DL. Maybe cash tip? 

 

If you follow the thread, many ships were allowing the alcohol fueled drinks in the lounges and a lot of bars were only requiring one swipe