Go Smile at Covid Waiver

[BlerkOne]

2 minutes ago, sanmarcosman said:

I've never shown my card leaving a Carnival ship once since 1987 with the exception of final debark. Not a big deal. Has Carnival announced they are considering using the software as you describe?

You never leave the ship in port? I doubt Carnival has made final decisions in how the software will be used.  

[sanmarcosman]

1 minute ago, IntrepidFromDC said:

You're saying you got off the ship at ports of call without having your sign and sail card scanned... since 1987 to present?  What ships?

Yes, even the paper cards from the 80s with names handwritten on them were shown on the gangway returning to the vessel. 

[sanmarcosman]

1 minute ago, BlerkOne said:

You never leave the ship in port? I doubt Carnival has made final decisions in how the software will be used.  

You are probably right, this is still being discussed in the rafters as to protocols and processing.

[BlerkOne]

3 minutes ago, sanmarcosman said:

Yes, even the paper cards from the 80s with names handwritten on them were shown on the gangway returning to the vessel. 

Very scary from a security standpoint. I wish Carnival would have been more transparent about that.

[sanmarcosman]

1 minute ago, BlerkOne said:

Very scary from a security standpoint. I wish Carnival would have been more transparent about that.

As late as 1991 we would have friends come aboard Carnival Jubilee in San Pedro to see us off. They would tour the ship, see our cabin and then we'd go to Lido for a burger before the all ashore going ashore announcement was made and they would head for the gangway and go ashore.

[sanmarcosman]

2 minutes ago, sanmarcosman said:

As late as 1991 we would have friends come aboard Carnival Jubilee in San Pedro to see us off. They would tour the ship, see our cabin and then we'd go to Lido for a burger before the all ashore going ashore announcement was made and they would head for the gangway and go ashore.

To all who asked: my spouse has reminded me that since Carnival went to the plastic sail and sign cards we do present the card to security and they have been putting it into the card reader and then handing it back to us in ports. 

[embarkation75]

1 minute ago, sanmarcosman said:

As late as 1991 we would have friends come aboard Carnival Jubilee in San Pedro to see us off. They would tour the ship, see our cabin and then we'd go to Lido for a burger before the all ashore going ashore announcement was made and they would head for the gangway and go ashore.

Good heavens that is horrible security by Carnival! I get not showing the card getting off the ship, but allowing random people on the ship is disturbing even if that was 30 years ago!

[amcankid]

1 hour ago, IntrepidFromDC said:

Not only that, according to QANON Daily the gubment chip implanted with the vaccination jab coordinates with the facial recognition AI so they can track you with a photo image for all their nefarious deeds!

I just know that after my injections, if I hear the word Gates, I first get paralyzed, and then according to what others have told me, I start mumbling yes sir, must do as Bill says!!

I’m not sure if I’ve been programmed to eventually follow out some orders or something. It’s like constant trial runs to make sure what ever the chip I was injected with is still working until the big order comes down!

Why? Why did I agree to get the “.jab”???

[keels81]

Not sure if its exactly the same thing, but they were doing a similar process when we stayed at The Venetian in Vegas this past Christmas ... any time you tried to enter the casino floor from anywhere (hotel elevators, Restaurant Row, etc.) there were cameras with security guards that would stop you if your temperature was above a certain level or if the casino floor was at occupancy and you weren't staying at the resort so you'd be denied entry.

 

I'm sure its something similar.

[amcankid]

18 minutes ago, sanmarcosman said:

As late as 1991 we would have friends come aboard Carnival Jubilee in San Pedro to see us off. They would tour the ship, see our cabin and then we'd go to Lido for a burger before the all ashore going ashore announcement was made and they would head for the gangway and go ashore.

Those were the good old days. Pre-911

I worked for many many years for one of the biggest liquor suppliers of cruise ships on the West Coast.

Back in the eighties and nineties all paperwork and money transactions were done on the ships. And after completion, the Captain or whoever had the authority to complete all the customs paperwork and  (duty and tax free liquor) and financial transactions would always offer a drink and then offer me lunch on the ship. I would literally have free reign to tour the ship and then go to either the passengers buffet or the crews buffet if the passengers buffet wasn’t serving food at the moment.

Saw many a beautiful ship for free ( well actually, got paid to see many a beautiful ship. Lol)

 

 

[sanmarcosman]

7 hours ago, embarkation75 said:

Good heavens that is horrible security by Carnival! I get not showing the card getting off the ship, but allowing random people on the ship is disturbing even if that was 30 years ago!

It was the custom to have Bon Voyage parties with family and friends aboard ocean liners and this was a holdover from quainter times. Those guests who couldn't attend sent Western Union Telegrams to the passenger which were delivered to the cabin.

[Homosassa]

Point 5 from the Carnival announcement:

 

"Quickly find your photos at our Pixels Studio."

 

Finally, help for those who ask how to recognize and find their photos....😁

 

 

[kdr69]

8 hours ago, sanmarcosman said:

I've never shown my card leaving a Carnival ship once since 1987 with the exception of final debark. Not a big deal. Has Carnival announced they are considering using the software as you describe?

Deleted.  error pointed out.

Edited June 19, 2021 by kdr69
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[sanmarcosman]

1 minute ago, kdr69 said:

oooooh so your the one they keep calling over the intercom before they can leave to find out if your aboard or not......🤣🤣

Read on and you are welcome to return and delete this 🙂 

Edited June 19, 2021 by sanmarcosman

[sanmarcosman]

Just now, sanmarcosman said:

Read on and you are welcome to return and delete this 🙂 

And I said I thought we did not have to present the sail and sign when leaving the ship but that we did present it on returning. 🤣🤣🤣

[kdr69]

8 minutes ago, sanmarcosman said:

And I said I thought we did not have to present the sail and sign when leaving the ship but that we did present it on returning. 🤣🤣🤣

ok you pass lol

[Anyislandwilldo]

I can't wait to see what will happen with all the early cruises.  My cruise is in Jan and I hope everything is ironed out by then.

[Prismism]

1 hour ago, sanmarcosman said:

You would have been seriously distressed to see that Carnival and the other lines we sailed handed us shot guns on board. 

These photographs are cool AF.

[mlshum]

15 hours ago, sanmarcosman said:

Excuse my ignorance: what are the mechanics of the smile and go technology? Does each guest stick their head in a cardboard box, smile and walk away or what? The details of how the temperature is taken, etc. are not expressed in detail. Is our photo taken each time we get off and back on the ship and infrared technology reads our body temperature? The lack of detail by Carnival is egregious here.

I can’t speak to the temp check but they already use facial recognition on Horizon.  Basically they snap a quick picture on an iPad and that’s about it. On Horizon when we’d go to check pictures on the HUB app, I think I remember them already just showing up because it’s all tied together with the facial recognition.  It’s been a year and a half but I seem to remember the embark and debark being about the easiest of 8 cruises.

[cscurlock]

The scary part of that waiver is the close contact and being denied boarding at a port.  So theoretically if you are on a excursion with a passenger that test positive after an excursion you could be handed the same fate.  

[SNJCruisers]

12 hours ago, sanmarcosman said:

I've never shown my card leaving a Carnival ship once since 1987 with the exception of final debark. Not a big deal. Has Carnival announced they are considering using the software as you describe?

I call total friggin BS with that one.  Every time you get off the ship you need to hand your card over so it gets scanned and you hear the ding.  This means the system now knows you are exiting the ship.  If you become a pier runner, the ship then knows how many people are late getting back on the ship because you are on the list of people that have not officially checked back in.  This is done when you give them your card before you go through security and place your purchases on the belt.  They now have a checks and balances when it comes to people that still may be ashore.

[sanmarcosman]

16 minutes ago, SNJCruisers said:

I call total friggin BS with that one.  Every time you get off the ship you need to hand your card over so it gets scanned and you hear the ding.  This means the system now knows you are exiting the ship.  If you become a pier runner, the ship then knows how many people are late getting back on the ship because you are on the list of people that have not officially checked back in.  This is done when you give them your card before you go through security and place your purchases on the belt.  They now have a checks and balances when it comes to people that still may be ashore.

Did you read on where I reversed and clarified my comment. You're welcome to delete post.

[Floriduh]

Lots of businesses are already using facial recognition everyday. It helps a lot with security.

 

When I worked main entrance at EPCOT we had to be strict about only letting people exit through the EXIT lanes. Why? They had to get pics coming in the park and compare them to those who have left the park. That way they have an idea of who is still in there.

 

Plus, if a guest gets away from security the "eyes in the sky" can find them pretty quickly. 

[walkintheplank]

20 hours ago, groundloop said:

I just don't want to take a chance of being on a cruise that's terminated early because of a breakout.

 

18 hours ago, groundloop said:

But having a cruise cut short because of an outbreak won't be fine.  

And that's the beauty of freedom of choice. If you are scared, then don't go.

[BlerkOne]

5 minutes ago, walkintheplank said:

 

And that's the beauty of freedom of choice. If you are scared, then don't go.

No, that's the justification for strict across the board standards. Backed by science. of course.