I Have Covid

[geocruiser]

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22 minutes ago, MsSoCalCruiser said:

And let them know that I was on the Discovery Princess?

I believe they take reports on covid cases to be counted.  I think that they will ask the questions.  But you can tell them what ever you want.  I would think that they would ask you about travel.

[Napagirl]

22 minutes ago, MsSoCalCruiser said:

I just wanted to report that my appetite is definitely returning and please let them know that I will be ready for dinner at 5 PM.  I hope that they made a special “surprise me“ dairy free dessert for me today.   It’s probably a good thing that I’m not on the ship because I would be ordering everything on the menu right now.
🤣🤣🤣

I'm glad to hear you're on the mend. I've been reading along and I'm sorry you've had a time with the nasty virus. Here's to being all the way better very soon!

[geocruiser]

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/php/reporting-pui.html

 

Would this help??

[MsSoCalCruiser]

27 minutes ago, Napagirl said:

I'm glad to hear you're on the mend. I've been reading along and I'm sorry you've had a time with the nasty virus. Here's to being all the way better very soon!

Thank you!  I am exhausted right now but so hungry too.

[MsSoCalCruiser]

27 minutes ago, geocruiser said:

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/php/reporting-pui.html

 

Would this help??

Thank you. I just checked and it said that I had to report to my local health department and that the form was for Health department use.

 

I just wanted to make sure that they counted us because it shows that the Discovery is orange. With how many passengers we had on our sailing that would mean about six passengers had Covid (If I asked Siri correctly). I have a feeling there was probably that many just in our Roll Call???

[san diego sue]

1 hour ago, MsSoCalCruiser said:

Thank you. I just checked and it said that I had to report to my local health department and that the form was for Health department use.

 

I just wanted to make sure that they counted us because it shows that the Discovery is orange. With how many passengers we had on our sailing that would mean about six passengers had Covid (If I asked Siri correctly). I have a feeling there was probably that many just in our Roll Call???

I knew 5 for sure .

[nbsjcruiser]

13 hours ago, MsSoCalCruiser said:

 

Thank you so much.
 

I am vaccinated with one booster. I will get the second booster when it is safe for me to do so. I don’t know which variant I have.  I am curious which one I have but they did not tell me.  On my ER papers it only says “positive!”.
 

What is  XE?  I haven’t turned the news on in a few days so how many variants have I missed?

XE is the recombinant variant of BA2 and Omicron. As I understand it, it came from someone who was infected with BA2 and Omicron at the same time. 

[Daniel A]

12 hours ago, MsSoCalCruiser said:

Thank you. I just checked and it said that I had to report to my local health department and that the form was for Health department use.

 

I just wanted to make sure that they counted us because it shows that the Discovery is orange. With how many passengers we had on our sailing that would mean about six passengers had Covid (If I asked Siri correctly). I have a feeling there was probably that many just in our Roll Call???

According to the CDC:  "CDC regularly reviews the number of reported cases and exposed close contacts for ships in “Orange” status. As needed, CDC may request additional information from the ship or discuss the situation with ship personnel or the cruise line’s corporate office. If warranted, CDC inspectors can conduct in-person inspections to verify that all public health interventions are being implemented as recommended to control onboard transmission."

 

If there are more concerns, the next level up is "Red" status.  This is what CDC says will raise a level above "Orange" to "Red":

More than 0.3% of total passengers and/or crew plus

• Sustained transmission,
• Multiple factors that overwhelm onboard medical and/or public health resources, or
• Variants of concern are identified among on board cases.

Cruise Ship Color Status | Quarantine | CDC

 

[nbsjcruiser]

42 minutes ago, Daniel A said:

According to the CDC:  "CDC regularly reviews the number of reported cases and exposed close contacts for ships in “Orange” status. As needed, CDC may request additional information from the ship or discuss the situation with ship personnel or the cruise line’s corporate office. If warranted, CDC inspectors can conduct in-person inspections to verify that all public health interventions are being implemented as recommended to control onboard transmission."

 

If there are more concerns, the next level up is "Red" status.  This is what CDC says will raise a level above "Orange" to "Red":

More than 0.3% of total passengers and/or crew plus

• Sustained transmission,
• Multiple factors that overwhelm onboard medical and/or public health resources, or
• Variants of concern are identified among on board cases.

Cruise Ship Color Status | Quarantine | CDC

 

I find the CDC's approach interesting. Is there another industry that has these heavy inspection regimens? An NHL game can have upwards of 20K people. No CDC enforcement there. NBA game, the same. Disneyland, amusement parks all can have many more thousands of people, all huddled together and I'm not aware of any such "orange" or "red" levels being applied there. And are there any vaccine requirements in any of those places? Enforced mask wearing? Talk about double standards. The CDC has lost a lot of credibility in my eyes. 

 

We were on the Emerald Princess in November and I admit I was a little concerned but went ahead anyway. I was so impressed with Princess' care and attention on that ship. The cleanliness of the ship, mask wearing, social distancing where possible and so on. If anything, cruise lines should be getting a pat on the back. Instead, we're going to wait for an "outbreak" that has been brought on to the ship from outside and then declare a red status (whatever that means) and wait for CNN and the rest to jump on it with both feet with the usual petri dish comments while they wait for the inevitable sob story of how someone missed their honeymoon cruise or family cruise all because of the big bad cruise lines.   

Edited April 17, 2022 by nbsjcruiser

[Coral]

7 minutes ago, nbsjcruiser said:

I find the CDC's approach interesting. Is there another industry that has these heavy inspection regimens? An NHL game can have upwards of 20K people. No CDC enforcement there. NBA game, the same. Disneyland, amusement parks all can have many more thousands of people, all huddled together and I'm not aware of any such "orange" or "red" levels being applied there. And are there any vaccine requirements in any of those places? Enforced mask wearing? Talk about double standards. The CDC has lost a lot of credibility in my eyes. 

Not sure when it has lost creditability in your eyes but I remember them keeping track of norovirus cases 20+ years ago. It doesn't seem political.

Edited April 17, 2022 by Coral

[Keksie]

4 minutes ago, Coral said:

Not sure when it has lost creditability in your eyes but I remember them keeping track of norovirus cases 20+ years ago. It doesn't seem political.

Which seemed biased against the cruise industry even then.  The only time I got noro was from dining at a restaurant on land.  

 

[nbsjcruiser]

2 hours ago, Coral said:

Not sure when it has lost creditability in your eyes but I remember them keeping track of norovirus cases 20+ years ago. It doesn't seem political.

I didn't use the word political because it has nothing to do with politics. Its a biased approach to cruising while turning multiple blind eyes to resorts, sporting events, religious events, amusement parks and any other event with more than a couple of hundred people. Call it incompetence, bias or a wrongheaded approach - call it what you will but politics has nothing to do with it.

[Coral]

4 minutes ago, nbsjcruiser said:

I didn't use the word political because it has nothing to do with politics. Its a biased approach to cruising while turning multiple blind eyes to resorts, sporting events, religious events, amusement parks and any other event with more than a couple of hundred people. Call it incompetence, bias or a wrongheaded approach - call it what you will but politics has nothing to do with it.

Ships are different than attending amusement parks or sporting events. People stay and dine there - when people go to hotels/resorts, they don't commingle during the day with each other as much. It is far easier to track on a ship.

Edited April 17, 2022 by Coral

[MsSoCalCruiser]

3 hours ago, Daniel A said:

According to the CDC:  "CDC regularly reviews the number of reported cases and exposed close contacts for ships in “Orange” status. As needed, CDC may request additional information from the ship or discuss the situation with ship personnel or the cruise line’s corporate office. If warranted, CDC inspectors can conduct in-person inspections to verify that all public health interventions are being implemented as recommended to control onboard transmission."

 

If there are more concerns, the next level up is "Red" status.  This is what CDC says will raise a level above "Orange" to "Red":

More than 0.3% of total passengers and/or crew plus

• Sustained transmission,
• Multiple factors that overwhelm onboard medical and/or public health resources, or
• Variants of concern are identified among on board cases.

Cruise Ship Color Status | Quarantine | CDC

 

But how are we counted if we test positive the day after we leave the ship?

[Daniel A]

29 minutes ago, MsSoCalCruiser said:

But how are we counted if we test positive the day after we leave the ship?

I think that all got covered in a few previous posts.  You would self-report to your local health department.  They would initiate contact tracing which would reveal your cruise.  That data is required to be sent to the CDC on the reporting form which your local health department completes.

 

If you were to test positive at a health provider or pharmacy, they are required to notify the local health department who performs the contact tracing then in turn notifies the CDC via the reporting form.

 

If somebody who tests positive at home after the cruise fails to self-report, then they wouldn't be counted.  

 

Edited April 17, 2022 by Daniel A

[MsSoCalCruiser]

Just now, Daniel A said:

I think that all got covered in a few previous posts.  You would self-report to your local health department.  They would initiate contact tracing which would reveal your cruise.  That data is required to be sent to the CDC on the reporting form which your local health department completes.

 

If you were to test positive at a health provider or pharmacy, they are required to notify the local health department who performs the contact tracing then in turn notifies the CDC via the reporting form.

 

If somebody who tests positive at home after the cruise fails to self-report, then they wouldn't be counted.  

I’m sorry, yes that was covered. I’m not feeling that great this morning.

[Daniel A]

2 minutes ago, MsSoCalCruiser said:

I’m sorry, yes that was covered. I’m not feeling that great this morning.

Sorry to hear that.  Get well soon!!! 🎈 💐

Edited April 17, 2022 by Daniel A

[MsSoCalCruiser]

1 minute ago, Daniel A said:

Sorry to hear that.  Get well soon!!!

Thank you. I’m sure I will feel better in a few hours.

[Coral]

7 minutes ago, MsSoCalCruiser said:

I’m sorry, yes that was covered. I’m not feeling that great this morning.

I am hoping you start feeling better soon!

[Steelers36]

2 hours ago, nbsjcruiser said:

I didn't use the word political because it has nothing to do with politics. Its a biased approach to cruising while turning multiple blind eyes to resorts, sporting events, religious events, amusement parks and any other event with more than a couple of hundred people. Call it incompetence, bias or a wrongheaded approach - call it what you will but politics has nothing to do with it.

You may not be making a political statement about it, but to suggest there is zero politics in Covid protocols in both Canada and the US is like this: 

[Astro Flyer]

19 hours ago, MsSoCalCruiser said:

With how many passengers we had on our sailing that would mean about six passengers had Covid

The 0.3% level includes passengers & crew so on our cruises that would be 11 with Covid to be Red.
 

It’s difficult to believe that based on reporting to CDC that only 1 ship is at Red. As SD Sue wrote we’re aware of 5 and doubt there were less than 6 other cases during our cruise. This was posted last night about the situation on the recently completed Ruby cruise…100 cases.

 

 

Edited April 17, 2022 by Astro Flyer

[Dreamer333]

On 4/11/2022 at 11:04 PM, antsp said:

Your post doesn't make sense, you say to soon to drop the mask mandate. You wore a mask x 2, and still caught it. Confused

Come on, you already know the answer to this “question”

No need to play dumb/confused  🙄

Not to mention the completely unsympathetic attitude towards someone who is sick. 

Edited April 17, 2022 by Dreamer333

[MsSoCalCruiser]

5 hours ago, Coral said:

I am hoping you start feeling better soon!

Thank you Coral.  I was feeling great yesterday and then I started running a fever and having symptoms all over again last night. I just woke up again if that says anything. Right now I’m feeling better.  Thank you so much.

[MsSoCalCruiser]

3 hours ago, Astro Flyer said:

The 0.3% level includes passengers & crew so on our cruises that would be 11 with Covid to be Red.
 

It’s difficult to believe that based on reporting to CDC that only 1 ship is at Red. As SD Sue wrote we’re aware of 5 and doubt there were less than 6 other cases during our cruise. This was posted last night about the situation on the recently completed Ruby cruise…100 cases.

 

 

I knew either Siri lied or it was user error when I was asking how many passengers would have Covid on our sailing if we were Orange…. User error.

 

On the Ruby they are keeping track of themselves which is what I wanted to do here. We know that the reporting is not correct.  There’s no way that it could be.

 

If they do not want to make masking a requirement I think they should at least stop smoking in the casino. I was in the casino daily having a great time.  I was masked  but as they say you mask to keep others safe.

[CruzDayz]

Happy Easter! Rest rest rest. 🐇🐇🐇