$500 fines for Rowdy Behaviour

[ontheweb]

11 hours ago, BasicSailor said:

You mean walking the plank could actually be a reality? 😲

 

Probably not, but it would get passengers' attention and maybe go a long way to curbing bad behavior.

 

I suppose @chengkp75 would say it depends on the laws of the flag state and the Captain's discretion.

[chengkp75]

20 minutes ago, ontheweb said:

Probably not, but it would get passengers' attention and maybe go a long way to curbing bad behavior.

 

I suppose @chengkp75 would say it depends on the laws of the flag state and the Captain's discretion.

NCL already has this.  😉

[ballarinamom]

On 10/7/2022 at 5:03 PM, klfrodo said:

I can only say that as I grow older, my lifes expectations change. 20 years ago, I might have been right in there with the rowdy group. Now? Not so much. Having a rowdy good time is not a new thing in 2022. It's always been there.

You have the freedom to stay where you are. You also have the freedom to change your expectations and the brand.

I dont think 20 years ago any of us would have been throwing deck chairs over the side of the ship and cursing the security. And in my 15+ cruises, I never saw fighting like I have recently. In July, the immigration officers were called to break up a fight in the luggage area. It was a full out brawl. Kids smoking pot and talking and laughing loudly outside of our cabin door at midnight? They just gathered on the floor in the hallway even though none of them were even staying in our area. Kids running down the halls at 3:00am jiggling door knobs of all the cabins? This is  not just people having fun anymore. Its disturbances

Edited October 17, 2022 by ballarinamom

[ontheweb]

2 hours ago, chengkp75 said:

NCL already has this.  😉

Didn't see a plank on either of the NCL cruises we took. We have one booked on the Prima, I guess I should go over the deck plans and see where it is if there is one. 😉

[chengkp75]

9 minutes ago, ontheweb said:

Didn't see a plank on either of the NCL cruises we took. We have one booked on the Prima, I guess I should go over the deck plans and see where it is if there is one. 😉

Breakaway class.  It's a kind of bungee jump over the side.

[Ferry_Watcher]

1 hour ago, ballarinamom said:

In July, the immigration officers were called to break up a fight in the luggage area.

In September of this year, one woman threatened to use bear spray on another woman in the luggage hall at Pier 91.  Thankfully, no bear spray was discharged, but the woman who made the threat was detained by CBP officers, and it caused a further delay in the disembarkation process.  I would not be surprised if some folks missed flights due to this one passenger's actions.  

[ontheweb]

10 minutes ago, chengkp75 said:

Breakaway class.  It's a kind of bungee jump over the side.

OK, our past NCL cruises were on the Crown and the Epic, so I guess we did not see it because it was not there. (Probably would not have seen it on the Epic anyway if it was there because the ship was so huge.)

[ontheweb]

3 minutes ago, Ferry_Watcher said:

In September of this year, one woman threatened to use bear spray on another woman in the luggage hall at Pier 91.  Thankfully, no bear spray was discharged, but the woman who made the threat was detained by CBP officers, and it caused a further delay in the disembarkation process.  I would not be surprised if some folks missed flights due to this one passenger's actions.  

It is really a shame what some people will do. Do you know if anything was done to her after she was detained?

 

I suppose she bought bear spray for Alaska, did not use it, and did not want to waste the purchase price.

[Ferry_Watcher]

@ontheweb, I don't what happened afterwards.  Guessing that since it was just a verbal threat that after awhile she was released - and hoping that she missed her flight.   :  )   Maybe her name is now in some sort of database, and she will have extra scrutiny when flying..  I do know that CBP called in one of the terminal's senior female security officers to do the pat-down.  Hopefully, being held in the CBP office area scared her enough to never do anything so stupid again.

[ontheweb]

3 hours ago, Ferry_Watcher said:

@ontheweb, I don't what happened afterwards.  Guessing that since it was just a verbal threat that after awhile she was released - and hoping that she missed her flight.   :  )   Maybe her name is now in some sort of database, and she will have extra scrutiny when flying..  I do know that CBP called in one of the terminal's senior female security officers to do the pat-down.  Hopefully, being held in the CBP office area scared her enough to never do anything so stupid again.

@Ferry_Watcher, thanks for the reply, even though the outcome remains a mystery. 

[simplelife]

On 10/8/2022 at 10:56 AM, ontheweb said:

Only if they enforce it!

 

But, it might also be a revenue loser in the long run as these passengers do not return to cruise again.

They'll lose revenue from peaceful clientele who stop sailing Carnival if they DON"T stop the rowdy behavior.

[ldubs]

On 10/8/2022 at 7:56 AM, ontheweb said:

Only if they enforce it!

 

But, it might also be a revenue loser in the long run as these passengers do not return to cruise again.

 

I would hope they would not be allowed to return.  

[ontheweb]

8 hours ago, ldubs said:

 

I would hope they would not be allowed to return.  

You would hope so, but right now cash strapped cruise lines might not want to turn down anyone willing to pay.

[Pellaz]

Just off the Horizon over the weekend and the only truly unpleasant behavior we saw was a group of 3-7 kids who tried to get into the Havana pool area at least twice, and also tried to cut in line at the Pizzeria one night.  Security finally got called on the line-cutting incident and detained two of the kids.  

I doubt there was any sort of action taken, but OTOH I didn't see those kids again for the rest of the cruise either.  🙂 

[Cruise till you drop]

15 hours ago, ontheweb said:

You would hope so, but right now cash strapped cruise lines might not want to turn down anyone willing to pay.

And here in lies the problem with Carnival

[Ilovesailaway]

On 10/17/2022 at 5:15 PM, simplelife said:

They'll lose revenue from peaceful clientele who stop sailing Carnival if they DON"T stop the rowdy behavior.

Exactly. 

[BobbiSox]

I have seen a lot of bad behavior on Carnival, not all of it rowdy, for example the men who think it's appropriate to wear their pants half way down so the rest of us are forced to see their butt-cracks. I have over 500 days on Holland America, spanning twenty-five years, and have witnessed only one group of thugs.  They were in a bar and loudly making fun of everyone.  Holland America's solution was to close the bar, at 6:00pm. Later I saw on the news that this group made a habit of cruising and tormenting guests until they were finally escorted off another ship at a mid-cruise port. 

[Cruise till you drop]

27 minutes ago, BobbiSox said:

I have seen a lot of bad behavior on Carnival, not all of it rowdy, for example the men who think it's appropriate to wear their pants half way down so the rest of us are forced to see their butt-cracks. I have over 500 days on Holland America, spanning twenty-five years, and have witnessed only one group of thugs.  They were in a bar and loudly making fun of everyone.  Holland America's solution was to close the bar, at 6:00pm. Later I saw on the news that this group made a habit of cruising and tormenting guests until they were finally escorted off another ship at a mid-cruise port. 

Wow can’t believe that this is a thang with people.  Ridiculous behaviour.  Sounds like people looking for a fight.  Ban’em forever

Edited October 19, 2022 by Cruise till you drop

[Cruise till you drop]

On 10/13/2022 at 8:58 AM, dallasdan said:

I have been on 18  Carnival cruises and have not witnessed anything close to what others on here are reporting.  Count me as the lucky one.  

I’m sure there are many lucky ones out there as well, as well as many unlucky ones.  

[darren42]

911 works if you push 9 then 1 then 1. The speed dial labelled 911 often does not work.

[bucfan2]

If Carnival decides to enforce this, they’ll be out of debt in record time. 

[Anyislandwilldo]

We did a 13 day journeys cruise in Feb one year.  There were more walkers,  canes and scooters on that cruise than in a nursing home.  No violent behavior on that cruise!!  LOL

[Cruise till you drop]

1 hour ago, Anyislandwilldo said:

We did a 13 day journeys cruise in Feb one year.  There were more walkers,  canes and scooters on that cruise than in a nursing home.  No violent behavior on that cruise!!  LOL

Except maybe who gets the last scoop of Tapioca pudding ?  😂 

[Djptcp]

Passengers who exhibit violent behavior likes fights that have happened on Carnival should be put off at the next port, a $500 fine just isn't enough. DH and I experienced a drunk passenger one evening in the smoking section outside who started yelling at us because we wouldn't talk to him. He had gone from people to people and everyone ignored him. I guess his anger issues had increased exponentially when he reached us. He was not only horribly foul in his language but he started toward us and threatened to throw DH over the railing! We were on our way to get security when he disappeared and we never saw him again. Terroristic threats are intolerable and, if found, he should have been put off the ship at the next port. There is so much violence and hate these days and we don't need more of it when on vacation. 

[notscb]

On 10/17/2022 at 11:48 AM, ontheweb said:

Didn't see a plank on either of the NCL cruises we took.

 

It's definitely there as an alternate on the dry slide that goes through people's balconies- a surprise eject into the ocean.

 

/s