sunsetme Posted November 2, 2022 #1 Share Posted November 2, 2022 https://www.cruisehive.com/carnival-cruise-line-adds-dining-charges-and-makes-changes/86374 Charges in MDR and increases in Specialty venues 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SargassoPirate Posted November 2, 2022 #2 Share Posted November 2, 2022 If the standard meal doesn't fill you up, hit the buffet afterwards and eat some more. I generally push back on up charges and "fees", so it won't be an issue for the pirate family. I've never gone hungry on a ship yet. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coolmama_1 Posted November 2, 2022 #3 Share Posted November 2, 2022 7 minutes ago, sunsetme said: https://www.cruisehive.com/carnival-cruise-line-adds-dining-charges-and-makes-changes/86374 Charges in MDR and increases in Specialty venues The charge in the main dining room is for the third entree that one orders. I certainly understand that. All land based restaurants have raised prices. Food cost is astronomical. It is not a big surprise 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare PacnGoNow Posted November 2, 2022 #4 Share Posted November 2, 2022 13 minutes ago, sunsetme said: https://www.cruisehive.com/carnival-cruise-line-adds-dining-charges-and-makes-changes/86374 Charges in MDR and increases in Specialty venues Wouldn’t affect us.. 3rd or 4th entree? Wow.. SD…I’m surprised they didn’t raise those prices sooner. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiggerontheseas Posted November 2, 2022 #5 Share Posted November 2, 2022 11 minutes ago, sunsetme said: https://www.cruisehive.com/carnival-cruise-line-adds-dining-charges-and-makes-changes/86374 Charges in MDR and increases in Specialty venues I have no issues with any of these changes. From what I can tell, the only increase or cut back (ice-cream hours, etc.) that isn't already pretty standard on Princess is the charge for the third or more main entrées in the dining room, which I think is quite fair. Especially as it would appear you can still order as many apps and desserts as you wish. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malba2366 Posted November 2, 2022 #6 Share Posted November 2, 2022 They should...they are being more than reasonable by only charging for the 3rd and 4th entree per guest...if everyone in your party is ordering 3 or 4 entrees then you have some problems. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrongwaywatson Posted November 2, 2022 #7 Share Posted November 2, 2022 I have no problems if Princess started charging for a 3rd entree. It might stop someone from ordering 3 entrees and eating 1/3 or less of each one, just because it's "free" So many people are wasteful. If you are still hungry after leaving the MDR, you can go to the buffet or go to the International Cafe. Stopping people from ordering 3 entrees will help keep costs down for everyone. 18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MileHighAko Posted November 2, 2022 #8 Share Posted November 2, 2022 I'd rather they just raise the overall fare price (I know that comment isn't popular) vs. nickel/dime in the MDR or other venues. Everything is more expensive these days, and the constant cutting of services and quality onboard is adding up. Just charge a bit more and keep the quality and service high. The price of cruising seems to have gone down over time, and expectations have gone up. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SantaFeFan Posted November 3, 2022 #9 Share Posted November 3, 2022 (edited) 22 minutes ago, MileHighAko said: I'd rather they just raise the overall fare price (I know that comment isn't popular) vs. nickel/dime in the MDR or other venues. Everything is more expensive these days, and the constant cutting of services and quality onboard is adding up. Just charge a bit more and keep the quality and service high. The price of cruising seems to have gone down over time, and expectations have gone up. By raising the fares, everyone on the ship would be forced to subsidize the few who use those food options. Why should everyone else pay more so the few can still have their extras? For the MDR, I have no problem with charging extra for 3rd or more entrées. How many people actually order that many? That is entirely unnecessary for the majority of passengers, so it would only affect a very few. Raising the fare to accommodate those few would penalize everyone else, so I don't agree. As for free ice cream only 11:00 to midnight, that is not a big deal. How many people actually get ice cream outside of those hours? Again, why should the rest of the passengers subsidize those people. And increasing the cost of the specialty dining? So what? It's not included in the first place, so only people willing to pay extra would be going there, so the increase shouldn't affect very many people. Forcing everyone else to subsidize their nicer dinners is unfair. I wouldn't want to pay higher fares to subsidize the few who use those food options. Not on my "nickel/dime". Edited November 3, 2022 by SantaFeFan 23 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MileHighAko Posted November 3, 2022 #10 Share Posted November 3, 2022 I know it's not a popular opinion. I'm just thinking big picture. The problem isn't a few folks eating a few extra meals. It's a much larger and more systemic issue that only $ will fix. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SantaFeFan Posted November 3, 2022 #11 Share Posted November 3, 2022 Just now, MileHighAko said: I know it's not a popular opinion. I'm just thinking big picture. The problem isn't a few folks eating a few extra meals. It's a much larger and more systemic issue that only $ will fix. The big picture is not forcing people to pay more for something they don't use. 7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malba2366 Posted November 3, 2022 #12 Share Posted November 3, 2022 43 minutes ago, MileHighAko said: I know it's not a popular opinion. I'm just thinking big picture. The problem isn't a few folks eating a few extra meals. It's a much larger and more systemic issue that only $ will fix. You are right to an extent...I would hate to go on a Cruise and be charged a la carte in the main dining room. Part of the allure is that much of the vacation is all inclusive. These changes are largely meant to eliminate wasteful behavior...there are a lot of people who have the mentality that since it is included they can be wasteful with no recourse. As long as it remains targeted to eliminating wasteful behavior and not an attempt to nickel and dime every aspect of the experience I think most will be ok with it. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kay S Posted November 3, 2022 #13 Share Posted November 3, 2022 45 minutes ago, MileHighAko said: I know it's not a popular opinion. I'm just thinking big picture. The problem isn't a few folks eating a few extra meals. It's a much larger and more systemic issue that only $ will fix. People who want an all-inclusive experience, including 3rd entrees and not stop ice cream, can cruise on the luxury lines with the higher price point right now. There's no need for Princess to duplicate it. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DallasGuy75219 Posted November 3, 2022 #14 Share Posted November 3, 2022 50 minutes ago, SantaFeFan said: The big picture is not forcing people to pay more for something they don't use. Neither is the decreasing the quality of your product to the point that formerly loyal customers are going to the competition, yet that's the path Carnival is on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PTMary Posted November 3, 2022 #15 Share Posted November 3, 2022 47 minutes ago, DallasGuy75219 said: Neither is the decreasing the quality of your product to the point that formerly loyal customers are going to the competition, yet that's the path Carnival is on. Based on the narrow scope of the topic of this thread, only a small percentage of customers will be affected. I don't think Carnival has anything to worry about. If the people are "loyal", as you say, they will deal with it and stay. For heaven's sake, we're talking about eliminating a tiny fraction of the amenities for a small fraction of the customers, not scrapping large aspects of the experience. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DallasGuy75219 Posted November 3, 2022 #16 Share Posted November 3, 2022 (edited) 14 minutes ago, PTMary said: Based on the narrow scope of the topic of this thread, only a small percentage of customers will be affected. I don't think Carnival has anything to worry about. If the people are "loyal", as you say, they will deal with it and stay. For heaven's sake, we're talking about eliminating a tiny fraction of the amenities for a small fraction of the customers, not scrapping large aspects of the experience. I'm referring to the "big picture"--years of cuts on top of cuts and death by a thousand cuts--that have cheapened the product (and to use your words, scrapped large aspects of the cruise experience), not this specific change in isolation. Edited November 3, 2022 by DallasGuy75219 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBella Posted November 3, 2022 #17 Share Posted November 3, 2022 And those who started cruising eons ago are very thrilled with all the new modern conveniences that never existed before! Yes, I cruised back in the dark ages way before the Internet, before computers, before color photos, before televisions in rooms, slept in bunk beds, had metal steps without carpeting, etc., etc. In the old days dining was a very celebratory experience with the flaming Baked Alaska, etc. (Try that with the fire codes these days.). There was only one dining room--no specialty restaurants. In my time I have met many cruisers who told me they could not even fit into some of their clothes by the end of the cruise, and I have seen people pile their plates high with food and leave a lot of it uneaten. I think it is great to charge extra for those who wish to exceed a normal food allotment. Those cruisers who wish to order three entrees plus every meal will probably not be cruising in the next decade as an unhealthy lifestyle will cut their time short. Plus the food waste is just too sad. Bravo to all the cruise lines that try to help their customers make better and healthier choices. 6 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kay S Posted November 3, 2022 #18 Share Posted November 3, 2022 1 hour ago, LibertyBella said: Those cruisers who wish to order three entrees plus every meal will probably not be cruising in the next decade as an unhealthy lifestyle will cut their time short. Those wolfing down three steaks might not be here forever, but when they drop, there will be new ones right behind them to take their place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caribill Posted November 3, 2022 #19 Share Posted November 3, 2022 6 hours ago, SantaFeFan said: The big picture is not forcing people to pay more for something they don't use. Almost everyone on a cruise is paying for things they do not use. o You are paying for entertainment in the Princess Theater even if you never attend a show. o You are paying for swimming pools even if you never take a swim. o You are paying for movies on MUTS even if you never see one. o You are paying for ping pong tables and equipment even if you never use them. o You are paying for food at the International Cafe, even if you never get something there. o You are paying for soft-serve ice cream even if you never get any. o Etc. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SargassoPirate Posted November 3, 2022 #20 Share Posted November 3, 2022 3 hours ago, caribill said: Almost everyone on a cruise is paying for things they do not use. o You are paying for entertainment in the Princess Theater even if you never attend a show. o You are paying for swimming pools even if you never take a swim. o You are paying for movies on MUTS even if you never see one. o You are paying for ping pong tables and equipment even if you never use them. o You are paying for food at the International Cafe, even if you never get something there. o You are paying for soft-serve ice cream even if you never get any. o Etc. Sounds like the income and property tax system. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kywildcatfanone Posted November 3, 2022 #21 Share Posted November 3, 2022 13 hours ago, sunsetme said: https://www.cruisehive.com/carnival-cruise-line-adds-dining-charges-and-makes-changes/86374 Charges in MDR and increases in Specialty venues The correct answer is of course they will. They have already done this to some degree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissP22 Posted November 3, 2022 #22 Share Posted November 3, 2022 It's about time those people pay for being overeaters. Why should I have to subsidize their gluttony. 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare iamaqt2 Posted November 3, 2022 #23 Share Posted November 3, 2022 The most ironic part of this to me is that generally speaking the appetizers, soups and salads are almost better than the main entrees. I just get 3 starters and 1 entree to try and call it good. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SargassoPirate Posted November 3, 2022 #24 Share Posted November 3, 2022 42 minutes ago, MissP22 said: It's about time those people pay for being overeaters. Why should I have to subsidize their gluttony. Sounds like a call for cruising "equity". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitty2264 Posted November 3, 2022 #25 Share Posted November 3, 2022 We haven't sailed on Carnival Ships in a long time and I really don't recall their specialty restaurants but the increase from $42 to $48 seem a bit much. That would have to be a really fine restaurant for that surcharge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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