Ladies...Have the Celebrity Fashion Police Gotten to you?

[Nashna]

I consider myself rather fashion-conscious.  I always try to dress appropriately and wouldn't be caught dead wearing inappropriate clothing in the MDR.  Something that happened to me on a recent Edge cruise still bothers me.  We typically had breakfast in the MDR.  This morning, we were leaving for an excursion right after breakfast.  We were being escorted to our table when the waiter stopped and asked me to remove my hat.  My hat was a tennis visor.  When I expressed surprise, he said, "hats are not allowed in the dining room.  You need to remove it."  Of course, I complied, but I had never seen the "no hats" rule applied to ladies.  Is this a new trend?  

[Lena11033]

There's a rule for no baseball caps, I think a visor would be the same as a baseball cap

[Nashna]

3 minutes ago, Lena11033 said:

There's a rule for no baseball caps, I think a visor would be the same as a baseball cap

Typically, those rules have not applied to ladies.  My goodness.  I just bought a fascinator to wear to a Kentucky Derby Dinner.   

[jelayne]

I don’t wear visors but do wear baseball caps but not indoors.

[Nashna]

I don't wear baseball caps.  At our club, women always wear visors at lunch after golf, while men never wear baseball caps at lunch.  

[Kudos2Fly]

I think a lot of cruise lines are getting more strict with what people wear in the dinning room. I was on Carnival and we did lunch or breakfast in the main dining room and they turn a lady away that had a tank top on. I have worn hats into stores and a few times when we traveled out West I would walk in with one on into a restaurant but take it off when I got inside. 

 

 

[C4HCG]

Why should ladies have different rules?

[Nashna]

3 minutes ago, C4HCG said:

Why should ladies have different rules?

Ladies have had a much more relaxed dress code.  We can wear pretty much whatever we wish.  We don't have the closed-toe sandal, tank top, or long pants rule.    

[Wakepatrol]

Can anyone explain the purpose of a visor?

[C4HCG]

16 minutes ago, Nashna said:

Ladies have had a much more relaxed dress code.  We can wear pretty much whatever we wish.  We don't have the closed-toe sandal, tank top, or long pants rule.    

I appreciated that, but just wondered why.

[jelayne]

19 minutes ago, Wakepatrol said:

Can anyone explain the purpose of a visor?

Keep the sun out of eyes.

[Lena11033]

They may be getting more strict but I would have never considered wearing a visor to a restaurant so wouldn't on the cruise ship unless in the buffet etc

If I had one for an excursion would take it off when I got to the front. But then I'd only wear a visor outdoors when running to keep the sun out of my eyes.

[newcruzer2]

44 minutes ago, Wakepatrol said:

Can anyone explain the purpose of a visor?

A baseball cap will keep the heat in, visors keep sun out of eyes and most of your face, and IMHO look better on women than ball caps (my opinion)

[newcruzer2]

My issue would be.... this being enforced during BREAKFAST on a port day. Seems like all people including  men in ball caps should have been given a pass.

[1Virgo]

i can only think that if they said yes to your visor type cap, sure enough, someone would point out you have a “cap” on.     Perhaps “no head gear”.    They have to draw the line.  and if seen at breakfast, someone would say, they saw it at breakfast and put up a stink.  can t win. 

[dcbiker97]

2 hours ago, Nashna said:

I don't wear baseball caps.  At our club, women always wear visors at lunch after golf, while men never wear baseball caps at lunch.  

But you are not at your club. You’re on a ship with guidelines. 

[Guest CunucuMom]

2 hours ago, Nashna said:

I just bought a fascinator to wear to a Kentucky Derby Dinner.   

A fascinator is a dressy accessory and a visor is sporting apparel so not even a close comparison.  Please don't take the MDR request as a personal slight.  Better yet, wear a fascinator to your next MDR outing and see what happens.  

[H2OH!]

I also wear a visor to keep hair out of my eyes on excursion days. When leaving for an excursion we only eat in ocean view and have not been asked to remove it. I never would have thought twice about it when entering the main dining room. Interesting conversation. 

[DCPIV]

3 hours ago, C4HCG said:

Why should ladies have different rules?

 

In the past, one would not ask a lady to remove her hat indoors. However, that rule came about when ladies' hats were part of her outfit, and it took some doing to put them on (and off). They often were pinned on. 

 

I agree that there is little to no reason to extend that rule to baseball caps, visors, etc.

[mrgabriel]

3 hours ago, Nashna said:

Ladies have had a much more relaxed dress code.  We can wear pretty much whatever we wish.  We don't have the closed-toe sandal, tank top, or long pants rule.    

Hmmm … until 10 years ago, I worked in an office and industry where women had to wear closed toed shoes & hose if wearing a skirt. Women have always had dress rules that were just as stringent as men. 
 

In times when people were more concerned about fashion faux pas, ladies were exempt from removing DRESS hats. Visors aren’t dress hats. 
 

From Emily Post - “

Remove baseball-style (unisex) caps…

• In someone's home
• At mealtimes, at the table‘

[Moochi]

9 minutes ago, mrgabriel said:

Hmmm … until 10 years ago, I worked in an office and industry where women had to wear closed toed shoes & hose if wearing a skirt. Women have always had dress rules that were just as stringent as men. 
 

I've heard the same thing. Ladies with more seniority at my work told me, about 10 years ago, when we had a different Director, he would ask the ladies to wear closed toe shoes and tights with skirts. No jeans were allowed except on Fridays. Nowadays there's no dress code anymore in my office. I've seen people wearing beach dresses with flip flops and leggings with a top that's shorter than hip length.

 

Dress codes are generally more relaxed than a decade ago. I think that's why X is doing chic nights instead of formal nights?

 

Husband and I were looking at a cruise line that requires tux and bow tie for guys on formal nights. I was telling him the only item I have in my closet meets such dress code is my wedding gown. 

[zitsky]

I enjoy this thread as much as the ones about ripped jeans on women.

[mrgabriel]

31 minutes ago, Moochi said:

I've heard the same thing. Ladies with more seniority at my work told me, about 10 years ago, when we had a different Director, he would ask the ladies to wear closed toe shoes and tights with skirts. No jeans were allowed except on Fridays. Nowadays there's no dress code anymore in my office. I've seen people wearing beach dresses with flip flops and leggings with a top that's shorter than hip length.

 

Dress codes are generally more relaxed than a decade ago. I think that's why X is doing chic nights instead of formal nights?

 

Husband and I were looking at a cruise line that requires tux and bow tie for guys on formal nights. I was telling him the only item I have in my closet meets such dress code is my wedding gown. 

My current employer allows everything except workout clothes, leggings that are see through, torn clothes, shorts, and hats (hahaha).

 

My husband has 3 tuxedos in the closet. I still have 2 gowns that I would wear because they’re as comfortable as pyjamas. But who wants to pack long dresses and tuxes? 

[mom says]

4 hours ago, Nashna said:

Typically, those rules have not applied to ladies.  My goodness.  I just bought a fascinator to wear to a Kentucky Derby Dinner.   

"Ladies" may choose to wear a fashionable hat, as a part of their ensemble to any occasion where such apparel is customarily acceptable. In the distant past, as stated, hats were integral to their dress whenever outside their home during the day. Removing the hat was problematic because it usually involved removing one or more long pins, and often resulted in their hair being in disarray. Hence the ladies' hats remained in place until they returned to their home and changed for the evening.

 

A tennis visor is not a fashion statement; it is sportswear. Stick a feather or a flower on it and it's still sportswear. And a ship MDR is not a country club. Taking it off isn't going to ruin your 'do'. And you don't need it to shade your eyes from the sun in the dining room. 

 

Women don't have a more relaxed dress code than men. They have a different dress code, because their clothing options are different. You still cant wear whatever you want into the MDR. Try wearing a skinny bikini top and a pair of Daisy Dukes with your butt cheeks showing into the MDR and see what happens. And AFAIK they don't make strappy, spike heeled, dress sandals or cocktail dresses for men. So that argument fails. You made an error in judgement, as we all have at one time or another. Accept it and move on.

[Moochi]

15 minutes ago, mrgabriel said:

But who wants to pack long dresses and tuxes? 

Or pay for an extra luggage. My name is El Cheapo.

 

Husband and I did something naughty one time. We worn pajamas to Luminae for breakfast and no one said anything. To be fair, it was disembarkation day, the morning of Christmas Eve, and our matching holiday pajamas were pretty cute and festive. We did wear (matching) closed toe shoes though. Would have worn slippers if they fit my husband's giant size 15 feet.